Miss-understood *cutters*

What you're interpretating as being 'happy' with cutting, is more over comfortable with doing it. Not happy as in, proud of themselves or glorifying it, but have come to terms with it, so to speak.

I know that's a pretty weak thing to say, but I can't really explain it.

I agree, they have to admit that they WANT the help, not just need it. As we both know though, people find it difficult excepting the truth/reality. I too, am guilty of not wanting to accept the truth, but that's not saying that I'm not accepting the truth with the truth being your opinion. If that makes sense.

I agree again, forums like this do help a minority. It's those minority who genuinely are afraid, are scared, are feeling isolated. There isn't a straight forward solution to preventing Self-Harm, but there is a way of preventing it becoming the ONLY way people can feel relief.

I'm sorry I'll have to finish the rest of this in a while. Must dash.

Ciao for now.
-Laura.

Right. That's understandable.

Any answers to my other questions?

God if we had an online moderated session, id feel pretty sorry for the moderator, they'd get it in the neck!

About the whole thing about being 'happy with cutting' and wanting to stay in that depressed state etc etc - I've realised that some people seem to sit in their misery because its safe. If they have been hurt terribly, then staying in the lowest state possible is a kind of safety blanket to them, because no one can hurt them anymore, no one can bring them down. Its a safe place that never changes, you don't swing around much. I admit I've felt like this on a few rare occasions, but i know some people that feel like this a lot. I'm not saying they consciously 'want' to be depressed, but to them, it may be a better place, than being brought down and hurt.
And therefore, for some, it makes it really hard to let go of self harm, and even depression.

Just putting another perspective forward!

I know this as the 'hide digging a hole' philosophy. The hole is dug, the distraction is comforting but the only way is down.. deeper and deeper. Go too far and you can't get out.

Yep exactly, you got my point. Thank god cos sometimes im sure no one really gets what I'm waffling on about!

Toni, I agree.

They're scared that if they do try and do get better, than they're only going to get hurt again. If you stay depressed, no one is going to hurt you, because they feel that's as bad as it can be..

Ah, the voice of reason joins in...

Honestly, Bret, I can't tell if you're serious or if that was sarcasm.

It was serious sarcasm.

How is discussing cutting attention seeking?

Teys, do you ever have anything productive to say?

-Laura.

No, he never does. Its very common in conceited people. They don't understand anyone other than themselves. Teys is like that. He doesn't have a beating heart. :-D

Its ok, I've come to respect his immoral morals. :-D, its a deal we made, sort of...

I must admit I shouldn't play teys' game. It's still attention he's receiving and negative attention at that. Best to ignore it.

ayways gotta do more reasearch to tell you how to stop and how to be able to help yourselves... see ya soon...

The only way to help is to present options and hope that they are taken. Telling people usually only reinforces the action in a defensive way.

I do realise that you may be mis-representing your meaning by the use of 'tell' so i'm not going to badger on about it.

Kitty...it may be a cry for help...but I don't think it is. I bet a lot of the people that cut or w/e understand what they're doing and just want to. But yet everyone has their different opinions and I'll be lucky if anyone at all agrees with me.

Kayla

Jus wanna say, good stuff Julianna! Im glad ur making progress now! :-) Keep it up, and I'm here if you need me. You're not alone! xxxxx

Julianna: Fight the good fight.

Teys: Sarcasm is the lowest form of WIT not intelligence.

Sarcasm as an intelligent form of humour is much more sophisticated than most will ever believe or admit to. It's funny as hell, too.

The reason some kids will scour the net for help over going to councillors is the fear of mockery, belittlement or just the fact that they aren't ready to open up to a person who could, invariably, relate the tale back to family.

The internet provides great anonymity.

Lastly, by posting here without reason or cause to help you are attention seeking. Grow up.

Sarcasm may be funny to some people...but it's laughing at someone else's experience, especially on here where some people are vulnerable at the moment.

expense*

Well, seeing as I used the sarcasm on Teys, who has a perfect grip on reality we're all good ;¬)

And I readily take what I dish out with equal humour.

Fight the good fight:

You want to beat this, you've taken hits you'll take more along the way but you're giving back some shots now.

Stay determined, fight all the way until you are in the clear and no longer needing to cut.

Jj is too young, as well. A good idea but if you are underweight and anorexic, bullemic or have another eating disorder you could very well have anaemia which wouldn't be good for the recipient of the blood in an emergency.

But yes, a good idea to try. It might help your situation to know you're helping someone else as you donate blood.

Good idea Kitty! Turning something negative into something positive for someone else! Nice! With what Bret said, the person would need to be in good health. Nice idea though! - Keep 'em coming! x

anemia is when someone doesnt have enough iron in their blood yeah?

hmm, I haven't read the updates to this but I just wanted to make a statement to Bret

Bret-- You're a very inspirational person and I've listened to you carefully. Doing so, I've discovered how great of a person you seem to be. This might be awkward to you for me saying all this, lol. But I thought that I would tell you. *hugs* Stay great!

BTW--Still no cutting for me. Things are getting better and i would like to say thanks to everyone who has ever written a poem about dying. I read them carefully and along the way I realized that dying isn't what I want. It's how I feel sometimes, but I don't want to die.

~~Big thanks~~ to everyone! Coming to this site has made me realize I'm not alone. I appreciate that greatly, I'm sure that I appreciate it more than you will ever notice.

I can detatch emotion and analyse without prejudice. I'm not great, just simple.

Strip away the fluff and see what you get.

Thank you for posting that...I dont think that cutting is right..but it does help...and it is a habit that is EXTREMELY

Im aware that cutting isnt really the right thing to do, but i cant explain why i have the need to do it.. it just a habit that ive picked up to help me. Sometimes i punch punching bags instead but i still cant break my cutting habbit, its like become a part of me.

I used to cut too, but I've stopped. Because when you cut, it makes you feel better, but your problems will still be there. It's like ignoring them and they will keep stacking up untill they explod. You don't want to see yourself exploding ;)
oh and by the way, any addiction can be stop. Just like I did for drugs. I had to do an overdose to stop. -_-
Sorry if it makes no sense. LOL -_-

Since I did my overdose, everything was clear to me. Because I am lucky to still be alive and I won't give this 2nd chance away. Now I know those who are true to me, what I want to do in the futur, bla bla bla.. anyways, that was my way to stop, hope you find yours ^^

alright, i'm a cutter, just to start this off. on a better note, i am on the road to quitting! hehe!
anyway! to explain to all those that dont cut, it IS an emotional release. here's how it goes: when the body feels pain, the brain automatically secretes pain killers throughout the body. these pain killers also act as natural stress relievers. so, cutting will cause the brain to throw out these stress relievers, so that you feel better, and have more "tools" to fight the stress. the tools, obviously, being the stress relievers. well! just thought i'd do my part and help all you kids to be non-judgemental of us. it's not that we're freaks. not at ALL! we just use what resources are available. thank you, everyone, for listening to this, i know it was kind of long.
*Zac*