Marine throwing puppy off cliff

I was browsing youtube lastnight and I came across that vid. It's sick, heartless, and inhuman. Who the hell would do this to a defensless animal? Some people say "He had the right to to this because the animal could have been sick." So what if the animal WAS sick, it is not his right to destroy the way he did. The only reason why I am angry is because I am an animal rights protestor and what he did was sick. Someone should throw him off of a cliff to see how he likes it. Oh wat, he's in the army, he's going to die anyway. Well, that is one more reason why the army sucks and if he is going represent our country like that, then I will take no part in it.

Wow that's messed up and just wronnnnnnnngggg. >_< There are other ways to dispose of a sick puppy, none of which have to be killing it, especially not in THAT way! I'm into animal rights too. Animal cruelty sickens me. It's disgusting.

Yeah, weird how animal activists never seem to care about human life. It's always puppies and kittens and baby seals with them. By the way he's not in the "Army" if he is a Marine. There is a fine line between the two. That's like saying the Navy is a part of the Airforce. He's probably shook up from the war and war can turn a completely man or woman into a head case. The man is probably a victim in his own right. How 'bout you have half your friends die of rifle fire from house windows and rooftops or blown up securing a vehicle in the middle of the road to save Afghani or Iraqi lives. Oh wait, they're just people. As long as a puppy isn't caught in the cross fire it's all good.

This post is about animal cruelty. He JUST so happened to be a Marine. I get upset a lot when it's animals getting hurt because people can protect themselves a lot better than little puppies can. And I personally don't want to look at people saving the country as puppy killers. It's the same thing when politicians are caught doing bad things. No one wants to associate a hero with prostitution or murder. It's a bad reputation. Oh and as for the comment on about how shook up the person is...that doesn't take back what he did. I mean if he is going a bit nuttso fine but hey so was Jack the Ripper and I don't hear many people defending him. We never said we didn't care about humans. This isn't about people protecting our crounty this is about people treating animals badly and the guy just so happened to be a Marine.

I'm here to tell you that not everyone in the army is like that. I'm in the army and the worst thing i have ever done to an animal is put it to sleep via veterinarian. Just because someone who is part of a group does something messed up doesn't mean the rest of us condone the actions. This country was not put together so people could do that to animals. That is why there are laws against it. I find myself looking upon you with confusion as to why you would think the entire army and the entire United States believes this to be either entertaining or forgivable.

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Go Shank! High-five* Gee I never knew a mod could say that stuff. Ever since getting in trouble on the boards in the past I've been super careful. Ah you said things that I could never have in fear of constant babbling and hatred. Anyways, yeah I'm not for the war either. Gee this has turned into a very interesting post. However, despite my being against the war and the many crimes happening within them, I am not against those of you in it that are doing a good job by not committing war crimes. I just don't like killing people. HA! Ya see us animal rights activists aren't cruel heartless animal lovers (at least I'm not)! I hate the war because I hate killing people! The enemy? Forget that. They're people. We have memorials all the time about those we have lost to the other side but what about them? They're people too. There is no bad or good. Only two sides fighting for what they believe in, or because they're forced to, or something completely different.

Well, the original poster did say that they were just browsing through youtube so I'm sure they didn't intend to target the military and was just targeting that individual.

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it doesnt matter who it was that hurt the puppy,
the fact is it shouldnt have been done at all.
regardless.
and it is true about the killing animals is a sign of murdering capabilities that was said above.
animal cruelty is wrong in any way shape or form but because of some people like that it will never go away.

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It amazes me how cruel people are.

Please...

that may be bad but its humane to what I saw when I was in Kenya... I stayed in a muslim community, who saw dogs as they see pigs... unclean... three dogs were chased and were slit in the throat... the dogs whimpers did not sway them... the worst was the puppy they chased... it cowered into a wall... and it was beaten to death with branch sticks... this was when I was the age of 9...

there are people who may seem sadistic and cruel... but lets not forget the reasonings behind it...

Ouch. That sucks. :P Just because you had to see all of that I'm going to give you a hug. Hugs* Heck it's probably me that needs the hug. It's hard for me to even think about this stuff without getting upset.

Some ppl are just plain retarded.

This is to everyone who is on the marine's side: I didn't mean to upset anyone here, I was just REALLY mad. So once again i am tryuly deeply sorry.

Just because one person does something that seems cruel to you doesn't mean you have the right to judge the whole group. Get a life.

.. lol @ get a life.
i'm sure she has a life otherwise she'd be dead but who knows. i hate animal cruelty. it's by far worse than these humans everyone seems to be sticking up for, because that same species are the ones hurting harmless animals. and even if they aren't harmless, such as putting down a wild animal that killed someone for going into the wilderness in africa- if you are going to go into their world, you have to expect that they are going to stick up for themselves, even if that does mean hurting or potentially killing you.

and anyway, this isn't about humans dying for other humans mistakes. this is a completely different subject- animal abuse, so there's no real reason to bring up events such as 9/11. humans are intelligent creatures (in a different way to animals, for example, sadism)
why should someone who cares for animals also have to care about the pig ignorant humans who are going 'why don't you care for humans, you hypocrite.'

the nature, the enviroment, and the animals, are all something that we should be protecting, yet how many species of tigers have we extinct, they might as well equal it out in india and get their own back. (eh, sarcasm.)

all the same, anybody who doesn't have a problem with animal cruelty is sick.

Wow that's messed up and just wronnnnnnnngggg. >_< There are other ways to dispose of a sick puppy, none of which have to be killing it, especially not in THAT way! I'm into animal rights too. Animal cruelty sickens me. It's disgusting.

The animal was not sick, if you have the stomach for it there is forums out there that show American soldiers killing innocent civilians, nading sheeps. And makes kids run for water bottles. Shaft nading dogs and shooting them in the legs. I tell ya' if the military here in canada caught me doing that crap. I'd be in jail.

I tottally agree, I'm even against killing deaf or blind or cripled animals which would probably die

Of course you are, nobody goes around killing deaf, handicapped, mute or blind humans, so why should we kill the animals who are the same way.

It's that type of animal cruelty that disgusts me.

That type? so some types are okay with you? lol. :|

(i'm not being a smartass. i get what you meant.)

You ppl who support the war have ur own meaningless opinions. What ever I am doing something right by trying to STOP animal cruelty instead of keeping it going.

''For one, if the video was in IRAQ, put yourself in a soldiers boots, who wakes up every day in a hostle environment, where there isn't a vet around every corner, and a dog is sick and dying miserably... and with the mentallity of your average soldier, stuff like that just doesn't register... he killed a sick dog, big whoop, two weeks later if he hadn't done it, it'd have died a much more painful death.''

Been there done that, I haven't killed a puppy. Again, the media is trying to spin the dog was sick. They don't want anymore protest about the Iraq war.

Also, PETA was caught killing animals and eating them. Dogs that is. They tried covering it up.

RickyH they're doing more than just killing puppies. I listed it.

Edited - because it doesn't need to be talked about.

..yet again you rave about how the animals aren't important enough compared to our crappy war.

you seriously need to check where your priorities are. you don't care about a dog that had it's only chance at life taken away?

because dogs DO love, they DO have personalities, they ARE unique and it's JUST THE SAME if not WORSE (of course, worse, actually.) than killing humans.

so.

I've lost my mind? what, because i don't care about the majority of heartless sods who fill this world i'm not the animal nazi you want me to be?

so what i care more about animals than i do the human race. how on earth am i delusional because i think a dogs life is worth the same, if not more, than a humans life? dogs aren't mentally retarded, dogs don't intentionally kill other dogs, dogs don't have an ego, any animal, that god invented is better than the low life scum who have started dotting around the earth.

so don't call ME delusional, just because you have some fantasy that all humans are great and all animals deserve less. ha, the thought of it makes me sick to my stomach. i don't know how you can be so inconsiderate.

RickyH, the point isn't human life or a dogs life. The point is this man found a puppy with some friends. Walked over to cliff and threw it off it. I've never been to Iraq. The Canadian Army doesn't go into Iraq. The American military is crumbling within. It truly is, their papers are publishing how they're falling apart how men are coming back from Iraq and murdering their wives. They kill more than just puppies over there, a lot more. If you hire people that 1 out of 8 of them need to see judge to join the army. 71% of them haven't passed highschool, you're army is going to be a little messed. No sane person wants to join the American Army anymore, what's the sense? To run over to Iraq and play Chicken and Egg... if you do not know what that is just google it. These soldiers go over their for 9 months, they come home for 3 and go back for 9 more.

You have people that know their going to die or get wounded if they're Marines or Infantry. I'm happy as hell, Canada doesn't have the deleployment model of the United States, we don't go back when ever we look fresh.

This discussion is not about saving a dogs life, this discussion shouldn't be about 'free speech'. Because shooting farmers trying to protect their lands in Afghanistan is has nothing to do with 'free spech'. This discussion is about the mind set these people are in. You know you're a walking wounded soldier or even dead. The American Army is just hiring everyone and anyone, some people and that is a lot of people don't have what it takes to go to war.

My point is the army needs to step back for second look at their troops and look at their mission. They need to realize these people are stressed and taking it out on other people and animals. The war in Iraq is lost, just bring em home.

Edit: Just read the American goverment signed a secret pact to make sure the troops stay passed their due date. So, there you have it. GG, Bush Adminstration.

Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it. - Mark Twain....

^exactly.

rethink my views on humanity? what exactly am i meant to rethink, that we are cruel to each other and are outrageously racist, that we hunt things to the point of extinction, that we murder and pollute our earth, and will soon have to get OFF it in order to survive..what exactly should i be rethinking.

we are inane.

Animals do more polluting than we do in Carbon nuff said about having to get off it.

EX ACT LY.

need more be said? no. and ryan, i am not talking about carbon dioxide. i am talking about smoke, car engines, factories, etc. manmade pollution.

I am talking about smoke, car engines, factories, etc. manmade pollution.

That is Carbon :).
The planet is fine, it is here for us and always will be. There has been doom sayings forever. Everyone talks about how the world is going to end over and over and over again. Now some people say fake ''Global Warming'' is happening and these are the same idiots that said Global Cooling was happening in the 70s the same people saying the world was going to explode? No, it's crap. What we need to worrying about and what this post is about is. Soldiers and their mind set, you wanna argue the end of the world than jump to another thread.

Actually, the world will end at this rate. and i wasn't the one who started raving about global warming or the end of the world, i was talking about animals rights, which you seem to have no belief in.

p.s. can you prove the earth will always be the place it is today? we are dooming it. there will be no trees, so no oxygen, nobody recycles and we are cutting rainforests down everyday. we probably won't have any animals to eat, and will all turn vegetarian, because of the horrible so-called "farms" that don't believe in organic food or looking after the animals before we kill and eat them. we are not a nice species, so what we love our family, that doesn't change what we do to animals or each other.

I totally believe that animals have rights? I'm stating none of you have been in combat and have no idea what it does to your head? So you cannot stand here and say OMG HE KILLED A PUPPY HUMANS ARE EVIL! I'm saying we need to look into PDSD and find out what we can do to help these people. I'm not out spitting self hate non-sense like you fools.

That is why I started the other theard :)

I never said "oh how horrible about that certain crazy man from war throwing that certain puppy over the edge."

I was talking about animal abuse in general, i can understand that sending them to a place of constant violence will more than likely drive them over the top and lead them to do unholy things. I never mentioned who it was and why they did it, but anyone doing it, for whatever reason- it is always wrong.

Frenchboys, I totally agree. But I believe there should be more science put into helping soldiers with PDSD than there is now. Currently when a soldier comes home from Iraq the government loses his file and tells him he never went to Iraq, you were never in the Army and you are a liar. Imagine what that does to someone with the weight of war on their shoulders. Now, you have people joining the infantry and marines. And they get sent overseas 4 times in 5 years. That's a death sentences plain and simple. And if I was in the American Amry rather than the Canadian. I'd probably have a few screws lose knowing that I am most likely going to die or be missing some limbs.

Yeah and what good is this war in iraq doing right now? i know nothing about war, other than we go over to a country to kill some people and steal either weapons or oil. i have watched enough films and they all end up crazy or even missing war when they get home because they are left isolated, out of place without conversational kills that don't involve killing someone off two seconds later. war is wrong in most cases, and right in some too, but the only reason people ever go to war is because of ALL of our crappy governments.

gordon brown? george bush? wtf is going on.

Well, if you look into what Free Trade actually is, you'll find out quicky ''WTF is going on''.

..loool. I know what is going on, i just find it hard to believe. I actually miss tony blair and so does everybody on BBC have your say. that is how ridiculous Gordon Brown is, he has sold gold from our history.

so again, wtf is going on?
sick sick sick.

People with Globalist Agendas is what is going on. Tony Blair was a pusher of that agenda. I like what is going on in the United States right now and here in Canada there is a huge uprising of Freedom movements to get back our civil liberites and bring our countries back on track.