Does Anyone Know Any Idiots?

Okay, so I want to start this off by saying that I don't intend to hurt anyone by posting this I just want some intelligent opinions from people like me.

So in my AP English class we were having a discussion and it turned into the standards of learning, and the pupils involved lol.

I go to a school where 90% of the population is, for lack of a better word, stupid. I am not exposed to any of it most of the time because I take all advanced courses, with the exception of my electives, but in my electives I can't stand the human beings in them because they are so beyond STUPID. Not to say that everyone in regular courses is stupid, but the vast majority are. There is nothing I hate more than people who do not use proper English in school. Outside of school or with your friends is one thing, but when I am reading over a paper and "this" is spelled "dhiz" it drives me nuts. I am seriously on a rant here because I feel like the intellectual standards of America, or at least my school are being lowered so much that an A+ just means that you are basically in class and do your homework. It is ridiculous that people are compelled to be so lazy as to not want to succeed in life, and that they are okay with just making it by and blowing through life like you don't even care. That getting high, and looking perfect are the only things that matter.

Why just the other day this girl asked me who the first president of the USA was, and I laughed at first because I thought she was joking, but when I realized that she was being totally serious I quickly apologized and gave her the answer. Later, I was mad at myself for aplogizing because I thought to myself, "it's not my fault she is stupid". But, I suppose that is the world we live in today, but I hate that it is that way. I'm not saying that I love school and that I think anyone who doesn't have staright A's is an idiot, I'm saying that by the standards set forth for us today is it really even possible to have an A+ student anymore because it seems that an A+ doesn't have the same meaning that it did a mere decade ago.

My friend said the other day, quite wisely, that "the intelligent are punished by the ignorant" and I don't think he could have been more right. I feel like I suffer all the time because stupid people make bad desicions and so I don't get to have some privlages that I feel entitled to. In a sense, I feel like I am being held back because no child left behind means that EVERY child is impeaded by the ONE child that needs help to progress. Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying that the mentally handicap are at fault for anything here because they are not. I am saying it is the people born with a perfectly functioning brain and body that CHOOSE to not excel that are making this world into what it is!

Opinions?Arguements?Agreements?

I think my boss was an idiot, but the idiots that hired him fired him and hired four idiots to replace him.

Well..Congratulations.
You've just proved that you're the most intelligent, yet arrogant one in the universe.

God created human with different grades of intelligence..and please look again at what you posted, if you were really that smart you would've known that none in the world is stupid, some people have lower level of intelligence than others, some are smart but humble.
Seriously..you need to understand that this whole thread was simply pointless..you're smart, again congratulations..so what?? we do have hundreds of smart people here. does everyone have to post a thread saying how stupid are the others.

One more thing..you might be intelligent, but just not wise.
You can never see yourself the way others see you.

So please..think a thousand more times before you say these words :)

While i do agree that people at my school are often generall dumb, i dont find myself much better then them. yes, i am fairly smart, but i dont hate people for their stupidity...nor do i act like i'm the most intelligent person in my classes, because i'm not. i could very well get straight A's if i so tried..the thing is most people really don't care. as long as you get a B average, that's all that really matters...Improper grammer drives me crazy as well, but you know that really doesn't matter that much out on the streets. Book knowledge, in the long run, isn't nearly important as street smarts and such.

I like Bob's example. Knowing grammer and random historical facts and other book learned things will only get you so far..you need to know how to survive where you were born to be, regardless of how you feel about the other people.

i don't think you're being punished for being smart...i think you're being punished for being full of yourself.

"Later, I was mad at myself for apologizing because I thought to myself, "it's not my fault she is stupid".

Maybe she never had a teacher who inspired her to learn who the first president was, maybe she didn't take an interest in history, she might not know who the first president was, but do you know by that one fact she is a complete idiot?

Maybe instead of worrying about how stupid everyone else appears to you, you should worry about why the school system seems to be failing so many kids and use your big yap to fix it and not just stroke your own ego. Change comes from taking action, not sitting on your butt pointing out what everyone else is doing wrong.

Well. I do say that I agree, I am arrogant. Why not be?
I would love for all of you who disagree with me to come to my school for a week, and spend your time in regular classes and see if you feel your IQ drop.
I don't feel, however, that I am being too tough on any of these people because I have grown up with all of them, most of you think they have come from a rough place, but I wouldn't be the only one to tell you that only a few come from a bad start, it's the one's who have everything handed to them and still turn out to be morons that bother me. How can one when prestented with every oppurtunity CHOOSE to not better themselves.

And to that one guy who thinks I can't survive in the real world, hun really? I live in NY, and here you know when to keep your mouth shut and when you are free to let loose and just say what you feel. I am very well liked by most people. I do make it a point to get along with everyone. Trust me these observations have not been made blindly. Perhaps I should have delineated more presisely that I am in EVERY social circle because I choose to be there.
I intend to make the most of my life. Dealt a fair hand or not, I'm playing it out to the end and I think everyone else should too.

However, highschool really is such a sad age to try to reach people because they have already chosen their path in life, or at least the start of it.

I have expierenced burnouts and I have known the times when I just don't care and Fail my five weeks, but I am by no means stupid. People need to open up their eyes and see that this new generation is going to be ruling their lives so get off your moral pedestal and be real for a second.

I am an Alpha. The world would not run without Deltas, but their population is growing too fast to even out.

In this world it is okay to not be the best because there is always more than one first place....

You can bash me all you want, I will never change my stance on this.

Well... I am from NY thank you and I know how the schools run here. Yeah someone might come from a rundown dysfunctional family, but that doesn't mean that they don't want and education. Maybe some of these people have learning problems or function better in the morning or afternoon. How do we know? Also maybe they don't know what to do in life or they can't get a proper education because they can't pay for books or supplies. Or they're stuck at home taking care of others. There are other responcibilities you need to look at here. But calling someone stupid is pretty much wrong on your point. Your like making fun of people who can't help themselves. I know I'm not the smartest person on earth but I still do very well in school and in also high honors classes. But I don't sit there and digrate others. I have a little sister who is mentally disabled, and you calling someone stupid just because they didn't know the first president offends me. You have no clue what the other half has to live through. I have seen my sister come home almost everyday crying because people like you sit there and turn her down cause she's not "smart" enough. Sorry everyone can't be like you. 'Cause you're so very perfect.

Hmmm, what do you say to that.
I do agree with you in that there are people who don't care and act stupid or that type of stuff. But basically what you are saying is that everyone has the same type of functioning in their minds and that they can get to the same level so you divide people into two groups people who are whaaaaaay up here *hand in the air* and get straight As (o' excuse me A+s) and people who get even a scratch under that whaaaaay down here *reaches under toes*.
There are people who do act dumb and don't care about life and what comes after school ends and everything, but there is no reason to degrade them like that. Do you know that it's because people like you that this happens? because these people need rehbilitation and help, they need someone to give them that extra push and keep them in that lovable community circle. It isn't possible for everyone to get A+s because the human brain is different from one person to another (that's why we have IQ tests and they have nothing we learn in school, it's a bunch of random questions which provoke you're brain to think), think carefully about what you're saying and if you're not going back on your thoughts at least reduce that big circle that - in your opinion - holds stupid people, some people try hard and get B's and C's, I try hard and get somewhere between 70% and 80% in some subjects and somewhere between 90% and a full mark in others, that's because I can understand some things and not others, my brain functions in one general way and the more of that in my subjects the more I score.

I am not degrading the people who want an education. It's the people who take an education for granted. When presented with every oppurtunity to better themseleves they decide to fail. Those are the people who bother me. Not the people who live in third world countries and want to learn. Jesus, I'm not that arrogant. I wish you all knew me. I have been called out intellectually, physically, and spiritually, I have been there and done nearly it all. You all think I am speaking from no expierence but I have seen and done it all first hand. It is you who bash the intelligent for speaking their mind that cause this country to not improve because everyone is afraid of hurting everyone elses feelings and to be politically incorrect and scorn. My deepest apologies and condolences to those of you too afraid to speak up. Welcome to the new Holocaust.......

I have expierenced burnouts and I have known the times when I just don't care and Fail my five weeks, but I am by no means stupid. People need to open up their eyes and see that this new generation is going to be ruling their lives so get off your moral pedestal and be real for a second.
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C'mooon..who are you talking to here?? yourself??
Be real for a second, seriously dude that made me laugh ironically.
Listen, the world doesn't even need people like you, real smart people-regardless how smart they are-always think they got zillions of things should be learned. Excuse me but you will never be mister I-know-it-all. None of us will be.
First of all a smart person would never post such a ridiculous, dumb, non-sense thread, cause you just prove to be another idiot. Smart people will spend their time doing something else, not just nagging about how idiot others are.

Go live in a third world country for a few years then you have a right to say what you said.
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Thank you Amanda.
I live in a third world country, people here are still smart, the government sucks yeah no doubt, but that doesn't mean it would affect them to this extent.
Listen you arrogant, if you're really smart, none will stop you from achieving something. You being here means something is stopping you, in other words you're not even smart.

P.S We're not trying to make you change your opinion here, honestly none of us cares anyway.
I myself am here to point out to this *pointless* thread

I might find some validity in your complaint if it wasn't based entirely on how much better you are than everyone else.

"I have known the times when I just don't care and Fail my five weeks, but I am by no means stupid."

So it is okay for you to be one of the slackers and fail because in the end you know you're smart anyway? But it is somehow impossible for others? I have yet to figure out how someone else not taking advantage of their education hinders you. If anyone needs to jump down off of their pedestal, it is you, instead of complaining and being part of the problem, be part of the solution.

Exactly!! Be part of the solution! If you want people to be "smarter" ask around tutor someone if they need help. Show people that education is important by helping them, not putting them down. Make a difference in someones life. Since you're so "smart" I think you can figure out a way.

Http://www.worldspirituality.org/power-of-thought.html

"I would love for all of you who disagree with me to come to my school for a week, and spend your time in regular classes"

^ Wouldn't need to, because your school's not one of the kind &, FYI, everyone who has disagreed with you has already been there.

"...I have been there and done nearly it all. You all think I am speaking from no expierence but I have seen and done it all first hand."

^ Join the club. It's not exclusive.

"My deepest apologies and condolences to those of you too afraid to speak up."

^ Haha. Everyone here as been speaking up; loud & proud.

Lol Britt, when my cousin and I were in the Bahamas, we met a couple from Virginia on a dinner cruise, when we had asked where they were from they started going into detail and we told them it was okay we knew where it was, they were surprised and said they had met a few Americans who had no idea. For some people if it is of no interest to them or they don't really need to know it in their mind, they could care less who the first president was lol I have no idea who our first Prime Minister was but I know who the first President was.

It is the person's actions that are stupid, not the person.

I do and say stupid things all the time, but I still consider myself an intelligent person. I make all A's, I get it. The difference between you and me is that instead if telling that person how stupid they are or thinking that they are complete idiots, I actually try to help them out and give them tips on how to remember things better. Instead of complaining about how stupid the world is, why don't you get off your perfect little behind and do something about it, because quite honestly, this is going no where..

I know a bunch of idiots...but its not nice to talk about people behind their back so I wont list the names

I feel everyone is missing the point of this post.

Haha! Brit you're so funny! Still thinking about the First President huh! =)

Yes, sadly i know exactly how you feel, i feel the same. i take advanced classes and (sorry but it's mostly the girls) act like ditzes. they can have all A's in every class but they are stupid. one, i know, recently just found out that the north pole IS NOT ANTARTICA!! not joking. so i know that type and then i also know the ones who just don't do anything. i don't understand how they can be so careless. they don't come to class half of the time, they fail tests and don't care, they fail classes and don't care. there is a special class at my school that lets you make up credits that you lost by not passing classes. anyway, they come to school late, leave early, have food during class, and have "field trips" all the time. why are they being rewarded by not doing well in thier classes. i really don't understand some people.

Why do you care soo much about what other people are doing?!? seriously! you know what you sound like? Poor you right? "They all get away with this stuff and it's just so not fair!" Honestly, give it up. That stuff isn't going to dissapear. People will spend their whole lives getting away with certain things and if you waist your time complaining about it, you wont get anywhere yourself. Stop worrying about other people. Live your life. Let them live theirs.

I have a child who struggles academically. (SP?) (sorry if I couldnt correctly spell that.) It actaually angers me that there are people, such as you, who are so intolerant of someone who has less LEARNING abilities as you. So you are in some type of "accelerated program". Stay there. Continue to be lonely. Cause that is what this post is really about. People dont accept you, they think you're "weird". So you feel the need to somehow degrade or downgrade someone who is not on your intelligence level. Lighten up. Be more accepting of others,even those you feel aren't your equivalant. Youll probably be happier and find more friends. It's lonely up there, when you set YOURSELF, on that pedistal.

ReBecca I wasn't talking about people with learning disablilities, I sincerely apologize for any misconstrution you had about that. I was attacking the people who have all the ability to learn that I do, and chose not to. I offer my deepest apologies once again for the misinterpretation.

We aren't afraid to voice our real opinions because we don't want to hurt people's feelings, I never do that. Just yesturday I was scolding this girl in my class for not caring about her education, her whole family dropped out of school at a young age, her elder sister was two grades lower than her and she dropped out in her first year of high school, but I didn't call her stupid or dumb, I told her that she was smart and that she had potential and could make it although her whole family didn't, today she came and she was feeling a lot better about school. You can voice your opinions and tell people how you feel about something without putting them down or hurting their feelings and you would be telling them the whole truth.
We had a seminar today about intellect and they said in it that a true smart person is one who voices his opinions and critisizes in a productive way. You are critisizing all humanity, the majority of students these days don't get A's, it is partially because of their neglectance but it is mostly because of their low self esteem and the feeling that they can't achieve anything... that they are worthless. Here you say they can easily get high marks, but then again you say they are stupid, and emphisize on that instead of the good part. Think about it how would you do in school if someone felt that way about you?
So I'm guessing that when you have kids if one of them was like these people you would disown him?!

My child would never not have the motivation and the drive to be an A student.

It is my opinion that people need to control their own lives. The human brain is a marvelous instrument, and everyone's starts off the same at birth. From there life is really what you make of it. Excuse me if I don't like people who chose to mooch off others and die without achieving the fullest potential every human posses.

I'm a realist. If that offends you all I assure you that I don't give a damn.

In order to learn in this life you must ask questions. Consider it a good sign that she cared enough to ask you that question. Risk looking dumb, however I see her as smarter than you. Why ? because she took that risk and your arrogant hiney laughed in her face.

^^I think Amanda hit it directly on the nail there and here is a quote in which I find to be true on so many different levels:

"THE WAY TO KNOWLEDGE IS LEARNING....
THE WAY TO LEARNING IS ASKING...."

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I have been called out intellectually, physically, and spiritually, I have been there and done nearly it all. You all think I am speaking from no expierence but I have seen and done it all first hand.

^^Hahaha I must laugh in your face for the comment. Come on, you can't seriously think you've done it all. There are so many things you haven't experienced in life, you're just a kid, hell Some would consider me to be a kid too, and I'm sure as hell people at the age of 30, 40, and so on would be considered kids to certian people but that is besides my point. You are only 18, and to say you've done it all is a JOKE!

Get a grasp on how intellecually stupid you are...seriously (no offence) you come off as intellegent but yet you haven't come to realize that the way you project yourself as a human being is in an idotic way. Take the time to realize what you are saying, and how it makes you look as a person. Intellegence isn't everything in life, yes it will get you places but all in all you need to know when enough is enough when talking with the "unintellectual" as you would call it.

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It is you who bash the intelligent for speaking their mind.

^and it is you who bashes those whom you deem lower than you.

"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own."

Cicero, Marcus T.

^^I think Bob nicely summed that one up.

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I feel everyone is missing the point of this post.

^^Yeah, sadly it is mostly you my friend, mostly you!!!

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...everyone's starts off the same at birth.

^^WRONG, not everyone starts off the same at birth...get your facts right then just maybe we can have a real "intellectual" convo.

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And I find it funny that many of us have had problems within school yet we still have strived for better education and have learned a lot in the process.

Bob wasn't a straight A student, but from what I read above he was the valedictorian of his class, I myself have had learning issues...when I was younger I had problems saying and spelling words because of the education system..every year they would try a new "experiment" on my class to see how well we would learn with what they implemented. Now look at me, I can spell and say words that I never knew even existed.

I think you need a reality check, a majority of the people whom are in "regular" classes might not excel as fast as someone in an "AP" class, it doesn't make them less intelligent, in fact some people in "AP" classes are less intelligent than those in "regular" classes. I know someone who was in a majority of regular classes, never did his homework and thought everything was a joke, you know why??? BECAUSE HE WAS A NEAR GENIUS!!! He was a few points shy of a perfect score on the SAT'S and I find it funny that the valedictorian of the class didn't even come close to a perfect score...

Take a deeper look at the reality of society and the people whom consume it.

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I'm a realist. If that offends you all I assure you that I don't give a damn.

^^ And all assure you, that we don't give a damn either. Who cares what the hell you believe, we are all entitled to our opinions.

All I got to say is intelligence and arrogance aren't the same thing, and are actually quite the opposite. True intelligence is understanding the world around you for what it is. You can be book smart and still be a moron if you let it get to your head.

And honestly, ***if you didn't give a damn, you wouldn't have started the subject in the first place, nor responded back to justify your thoughts.***

Don't kid yourself. Get out there, try and fix what you find wrong with society. Whether it be through your poetry or through your actions. If you can't take the time to at least try, then your opinion is useless and no one will ever take it seriously - and this can be said for ANYONE.

Chances are that you are the kind of people the truly intelligent in your class consider stupid. You think too highly of yourself when in reality i doubt that you are even in the top 10% intelligence wise at your school.

JENNI:
honeslty we've had this discussion in trig. i am full aware that life is not fair. and i really don't complain about it. but these people brag about it. and some of them, well, they get really anoying. they also talk in IM. instead of saying i don't know, they acutally say I-D-K. it's one thing to type it, which i still don't like, but they talk that way. they're imposible....

And the point to you responding to me like that? I don't see one. I stick by what I said. Let people do what they want, and you do you. It's a waist of time for you to even care why they do what they do. Again, Let them live their lives, you live yours. Point Blank.

The arguments Chris presents are arrogant, immature, contradictory, and inflammatory so i'm thinking this post was supposed to be an attempt at trolling. We all got trolled :)

"My child would never not have the motivation and the drive to be an A student."

lol That is funny. So I assume you are going to preprogram your child and cut it off from the world to mold he or she into the person you want them to be? That's the only way you are going to guarantee anything and even then it is not 100%.

It was never my dad's dream for me to drop out of school, but it happened and it wasn't because I wasn't intelligent, I got good grades, high school just wasn't for me, college was a much better fit.

Lol...

I don't understand everyone's gripe on the girl's ranting.

Its a rant, and it is somewhat true. I mean if we look at pnq as a microcosm of today's society, you'll see glaring similiarities between the two.

But again, there are two differences that need to be pointed out here. It seems that "laziness" isn't the cause of today's society, rather the blurred lines of sexuality and vacuous clamour of fame and glamour...

Its sad really how the news today is basically ignored, and things like "Who you wearing, Dolce and Gabbana" are being routinely asked.

Its quite funny...In hindsight. But again, you can't ask the sun to kiss the moon twice in the same week....Lol.

JENNI:
acutually i do care. this is the future work force. and if they all act like they do now, we're screwed. i do my part, why can't they do thiers?

Thank you. i know i'm still young compared to a lot of people, but i know the affects that happens when people are lazy and don't do anything. if kids start out being lazy in grade school and high school what will the act like when they grow up? modern society has made it so convinent to do things. some people practically live off of the internet. they sit at home all day and if they need anything they order it and it arrives shortly after at thier door. that is not a world i want to live in.

Wow, i can't believe that so many people in here are negating the value of book smarts. Dont get me wrong common sense and street smarts are very important, but structured and in depth learning in a wide breadth of topics is very important as you grow up. You train your mind to absorb information and retain it, make logical deductions, follow ordered systems making it much easier later on when you have to apply a trade.

oh and to rikki, being smart and having a good job doesnt mean you have to waste your life away at work, its more the people that have to work 2-3 jobs they hate to stay afloat because they didnt have the right opportunities/wasted them. Time goes by much more quickly (and is much more pleasent) when you do what you love and are enriched by it. I wont lie, i sometimes get caught working 50-60 hour weeks, but hey i get to take a couple months off a year so i guess it isnt all bad.

to the original poster though, being smart and being an ass dont have to go hand in hand.

Wow, you guys are really getting into this. I don't usually post on these "serious" discussions but whatever, I'll butt in :P

Anyways, okay I get what your saying. Your talking about one of those people that have many privileges including the privilege to have an education but at school, they don't do anything (at least it seems that way), they don't care, and they seem "dumb". I don't think intelligence should be judged just by test scores or what grade you got in a certain class. Everyone knows something that someone else doesn't. Everyone is smart in some way. Anyways, you seem to think that you're "intelligent" but I'm sure there is something out there that your clueless about. There are different people out there that have made "stupid" choices and have stuck with those choices for whatever reason and they'll pay the consequences for it. I guess my point is that we should accept everyone's flaws because nobody is perfect.

That's where you're wrong, asianDORK. The original poster, Chris, is obviously perfect. ;)

CHYNAdoll,

Your absolutely right, I was wrong, Chris is perfect.

Wow,

I would HATE to be perfect.