Grammar In poetry

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    Okay, so I've been just browsing people's poetry, reading a few here and there. Do you think grammar is necessary to create an effective poem? If you think about it, when you read a poem with "U" or "2" it could lower the standard. But what if you wrote a poem like that to give it a unique voice. Besides, just like art, it is drawn in many different forms. But still called art.

    Just asking.

    -Someone

  • Ingrid
    15 years ago

    When you want people to take you seriously then your poetry should have no grammatical errors. The only variation should be in format and interpunction.
    "U'and "2" is language used in text messages and I do not care much for poems that have such language in it...I close the page right away when I come across it...

    This is my just my opinion however:)

    Take care and lots of success with writing,

    Ingrid

  • forevertobeart
    15 years ago

    There's a difference between making a mistake and that kind of grammatical error, and purposely putting "U", "2" and "luv." I don't take anyone who types like the above examples seriously, whether it be their poetry or just chatting. Why would you want to sound like a twelve-year-old little girl? To me, it takes longer to type lyk dis than it does to type properly, so I can't quite grasp why people do.

  • silvershoes
    15 years ago

    I think improper grammar is totally fine if it's intended. Most of the time it seems to come into play when people are too lazy to write out full words, or they don't bother revising.

    If someone is lazy or submits work with words spelled incorrectly, or obviously the wrong word inserted because they used spell check and didn't check with their own eyes - it irritates me. REALLY irritates me.

  • Rachel RTVW
    15 years ago

    The improper grammar doesn't bother me if I am texting because I do it too.

    As far as poetry is concerned that makes a piece look sloppy like the person was in a hurry and doesn't really care if their work is presentable. I therefore, do not care to waste my time reading such slop.

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    I don't know if I should be offended. You all are replying to my question like I write poetry like that. Hah, well, I don't. But it is a good question though. Which is why I brought it up. I read one great poem written in "Text" speak. If it wasn't written like that, it would be greater, but there are some great writers out there with amazing creativity that probably have trouble with grammar.

    Practice makes perfect,
    Someone.

  • silvershoes
    15 years ago

    Haha, aw, don't be so sensitive. I didn't even look to see who asked the question, all I cared about was answering it.

    Maybe I will poke through your poetry now though.

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    Ahh, well good luck finding something interesting in there. Because there isn't.

  • silvershoes
    15 years ago

    Pssh, not so! Someone needs to slap some confidence into you, love!

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    Slap some confidence? I don't know about that one. It doesn't sound to good and it really isn't something that I would like to feel.

  • Ingrid
    15 years ago

    There is a booklet on the market, that is a great help to people who want to improve their writing. It will not fish out mistakes like "weather" when you really mean to say "whether" and such, but it is a guide to proper usage of interpunction, style and composition.

    It is called The Elements Of Style ( fourth edition)
    and it is written by William Strunk jr. and E. B. White.

    ps: I didn't think you were referring to yourself at all. Why would I( or any other person) think that..it was just a question in general, right?

  • silvershoes
    15 years ago

    But how can you mess up your tenses if you care enough to go back and revise?

    The book mentioned, "Elements of Style." My dad gave it to me and said it changed his life, but I haven't read it yet. I guess I ought to.

  • forevertobeart
    15 years ago

    "Practice makes perfect,"

    ^No, no, no, no, no!!! Practice doesn't make perfect, it makes better.

  • silvershoes
    15 years ago

    Since perfect doesn't actually "exist," I think we should just use the word perfect to describe the thing closest to perfection.

    I'm so tired of this back and forth nonsense...
    Perfect.
    Nothing's perfect.
    OK EINSTEIN!!!! GOT IT, THANKS :)

    Hi
    Bye

  • Ingrid
    15 years ago

    The perfect way to control and dominate people is to have them thinking there is such a thing as perfection.

    One should always strive to be himself and not live up to (un) written rules on what would be perfect. This applies to all aspect of our lives...Never forget that you have the power to set a NEW standard..just like others did, who were not afraid to let themselves be heard;)

  • Ingrid
    15 years ago

    I was talking about life in general here. In poetry you need basic rules on grammar, that goes without saying.

    The people that have changed the world, people like Einstein, Darwin, Ghandi, Mandela, etc. are the ones I was referring to..people who dared to speak up and changed the standards of our society.

    In poetry and art in general there are also people who dare to be avant garde and I applaud them on their bravery.

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    I for one like to write poetry in a certain structure that makes it pop and gives it a difference and a voice compared to other writers. I enjoy finding creative ways to write poetry, I don't even stay with-in the genre of poetry, I dabble in writing short story.

    - Someone

  • Krista
    15 years ago

    When a poem doesn't have proper grammar, it bugs me. Lol. I'll stop reading it. And I'm pretty big on punctuation, so a poem with no punctuatiion bugs me. I don't know why. They just make the poem harder to read for me.

  • forevertobeart
    15 years ago

    How dare you, Rikki! He may very well have been trying to seduce that bus! Good thing that error was there so you could clear up his sexual preference.

  • Ingrid
    15 years ago

    ^^

    Shouldn't "cleaner-uper" have two p's? I could be wrong..but it somehow reads so strange!

  • forevertobeart
    15 years ago

    It is a wee bit nippley today. Down in the thirties, I believe.

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    Interesting how the topic went from Grammar, to being clean, to being cold. I love this place.

    -someone

  • Elizabeth
    15 years ago

    ^ Oh boy.... Aren't you just a bundle of joy... Haha.

  • Nicko
    15 years ago

    For me communicating is what its all about, if that is via text or grammatically correct so be it, getting people to write is the important thing I think.

    The older we get the more you realize the importance of communication in any form

    If we communicated more there would be fewer wars less bigotry, racialism, marriage break-ups you name it.

    Me for me alone.....

  • Nicko
    15 years ago

    Yep and still the British couldn't beat them

    Rikki its a wonder you can get out of bed in the morning with all that baggage you carry around. you don't have a mortage on bad shit you know, we've all had our fair share.....

    ^Yep low blow that......Nicko you were plum mean lad.....and i still love you Rikki..

  • Someone
    15 years ago

    I love you all.

    -Someone.

    PS. I'm kiddng, I don't love you all. I don't know you. But I do respect you as much as a complete stranger can when confronted with another complete stranger.

  • Vix
    15 years ago

    There's a time and a place for everything.

    Grammar in poetry is a device, never forget it ;).