The mutilation of young defenseless girls in Cameroon.

By accident I came across this video, and as appalling as it is, I do want to share it. It is about how instead of changing the behavior of the perpetrators ( men), the potential victims ( young girls) undergo a mutilating procedure, often performed by their mother(!).

For those who are under aged, or afraid to see the video I will tell you what it is about: the mothers iron the breasts of their young daughters to prevent them from growing and thereby attracting the attention of the men. This way, they hope to prevent their girls from becoming pregnant. It seems to me they should be doing something about the behavior of the men!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/23/teenage-girls-undergo-bre_n_656965.html

Yes Britt, all women should feel safe in this world, as should people in general. Unfortunately they are not, and especially when they are young they run great risk of being victim of rape, not only by strangers but also by family members and people they assume they can trust ( teachers of any kind, they seem to seek out positions that allow them to be close to young ones)

But just imagine your own mother mutilating you to keep you out of the hands of men..what would that do to your relationship with your mother and what would your view on men in general be from that point on???

Lol, young women seeking the company of older, settled men..that is something that has been going on for ages, hasn't it? I see them daily, it is everywhere, they offer themselves to all men who appear to have the means to spoil them rotten ( and the intention..for a little reward in return... bbrrr!). I cannot imagine any girl offering herself to a creepy-like men who is not wealthy, then she would have to have some kind of mental problem, or maybe have missed something in her youth, like a real father? Or just so hungry for attention that she doesn't care where it comes from.

Physical mutilation is aways very sad. There was a post a while back about "Invisable children" that are mentally abused so they can be used to fight wars as soon as puberty begins. I doubt anyone would know who Monica Samille Lewinsky was if she had offered herself to a poor creepy like man. In the civilized western country of The United States It seems more socially acceptable and humane to kill innocent life than to mutilate. The religious practice of mutilation in the form of female circumcision is not less of an abuse of nature to many. If politics did not make minced meat out of an inappropriate affair much of the fuss could have been avoided.

Yes it is, Michael..but the emotional scars that this girls obtain are far deeper, they lose faith in the goodness of people by this..

What do you mean by "invisible children"? do you mean those young children who lost both parents to aids, living in African countries?

Thanks to my best friend, I recently watched three documentaries that Invisible Children have created and this is the saddest thing, Joseph Kony the president abducted children from villages, from as young as six, and trained them to kill. These children handled weapons and were basically brainwashed. They had to brutally kill and if they refused they would suffer, and those around them would also. Children of Africa now live in fear of the Rebels and that the child soldiers will come and take them away. Because of the young age, killing and weapons is all that is on the child's mind after a while. They have nothing else, they perfectly know how to aim and innocently murder. All they see in front of them is blood

There is more on page seven in this forum. This topic has been posted for over 180 days and got less attention than How to turn a computer monitor into a mirror?
To quote a dear poet

~deep sigh~ "Are you for real? If all of us in the US and Canada would give one lousy $ we could do "miracles"
but we dont cos we dont give a damn about "others" as long as we can have a six pack and the New York Yets or the Maple Leafs are winning, or write a so called "poem" we are in a tranquil state of mind, mesmerized by our refined science..."

@ Britt: yes, you are right, to generalize is a dangerous thing..but you do see patterns, as you stated yourself just now too. I had a lousy dad, but it did not make me want to marry a man twice my age..I do and will always hold it against him that he robbed me of a real dad:( He is a lousy grandfather too, by the way, my son hates him.

Oh, and yes: the girls were indeed mutilated for life..so it worked.

Michael, I remember now, about the invisible children, I saw a documentary on that subject a while ago....indeed brainwashed and made to kill, so there would be no way back for them..poor buggers:(

"Yes it is, Michael..but the emotional scars that this girls obtain are far deeper, they lose faith in the goodness of people by this.".
This is one of the main reasons why I would prefer to be remembered as a spiritualist rather than a naturalist. I suppose that lust is as natural as the other deadly sins. A true spiritualist should not be content with human nature. Though many naturalist may argue it is not natural for humans to abuse one another, it seems to be a reality of an incomplete conscience. The seven defects come in all shapes and sizes. My only Hope is that Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, and Brothers would turn to the Supernatural rather than the unnatural for the remedy of the sins of society.

Michael, we cannot always control what we feel, but we can determine what we DO with those feelings. I think it is fair to say that all humans are capable of all emotions that make us human, but we need not act upon them. It takes strength to do the right thing in all cases, but it is worth it in the end..because ultimately we will all have to face our Maker...and it is priceless to be able to look yourself in the eyes in the mirror each morning.

.".because ultimately we will all have to face our Maker..".Many times I feel like an honest liar who takes pride in humility. The term "Maker" though it very often refers to a Father Creator God. I would imagine it would not be offensive to those with a natural dislike for organized religion or problems caused by the abuse of religion. In the imagined conflict of faith vs reason, the reasoning behind mutilation of innocence has been documented before, and I believe we would agree has nothing to do with a spiritual gift of wisdom

Here we have an example of machines being used for evil practices.

I'm repulsed.

Am I in the right thread?

Irons!!! I don't know. I'm crazy.

Nevermind everyone, nevermind...

Lol, Jane, these people have no real household appliences, they use hot stones that they hold in the fire and then press upon the bare flesh..kinda medieval, eh?

And Michael: even when you don't believe in there being a creator, then you could kind of feel it witin you bones that one day you have to face yourself. I have read many testemonies of people who have been clinically dead for a short while due to hartattacts and such and they all said the same thing: you get to see and feel all you did right before you die( and what you did to others) Just imagine what Hittler must have felt in his final moments;)

I guess I should've watched the video. I'm feeling rather dopey today :)

I like your avatar by the way. Cute.

That's an interesting concept about how we all have to face ourselves eventually, usually with the approach of death, and it's a bit like facing God.
I like that.

On a brighter note getting someting off your chest does not need to envolve mutiilation

"It is when your spirit goes wandering upon the wind,
That you, alone and unguarded, commit a wrong unto others and therefore unto yourself.
And for that wrong committed must you knock and wait a while unheeded at the gate of the blessed."

"Like the ocean is your god-self;
It remains for ever undefiled.
And like the ether it lifts but the winged. Even like the sun is your god-self;
It knows not the ways of the mole nor seeks it the holes of the serpent.
But your god-self dwells not alone in your being."

Kahlil Gibran

FGM is a custom that was passed on since ancient egypt... The see the clitorus as nothing more than excess waste...

Its quite sad, but its the only way to keep a woman/girls honor...

Thanks Jane:)

The video is very revealing and repulsive. It was hard for me to watch it all the way, because I felt my blood beginning to boil as I did. I am so angry about the way women are treated in this world, especially the young ones..they are so vulnerable. If I had had a daughter too, I probably would have walked right behind her with a baseball club, lol.

I have seen many faces of dead people over the years and the ones whom I know to have been good hearted people always died with a smile on their face, the ones who were mmhhh..not that great had an awful expression. This, together with what I've read makes it very acceptable that we go through some kind of inner revelation process as we cross the threshold to eternity.

You always make such intersting posts, Michael. It is nice that you share short poems and sayings by famous people:)

Your joke is a little dark :p

Noir, I think they take away the ability for a woman to enjoy sexual intercourse on purpose. If a man had a clitoris, he would fight off any guy who tried to cut it off until death would follow.

Just imagine if we were living in a matriarchal society and we would mutilate men's genitals this way to avoid them from being raped by women...would men just accept that?. * don't think so, uh-uh*

Good thing to share this here, Conny. Conny is your name, isn't it?

I made a poem about this about a year ago, and it was met with much discontent. I don't really care, as long as word is spread about our sisters being in danger around the globe. If need be with shocking poetry/ posts..the proverbial rug cannot be stretched any further or it will burst wide open. I think it may be for the best to just pull it away completely ;)

Oh, Connie, sorry for misspelling your name. I thought only Dutch people spelled it like that. Your name is used much in my country.

yes, it is sickening how ( young) girls are treated..I saw on the news yesterday evening that there is a massive case of raping women in Congo going on...I am so appalled by the scale on which women's rights are violated:/

The thing we can do, always have to do, is bring it to the surface..that is the first step and openly condemn it, so the attitude of people changes and women will start fighting for their rights.

I believe that they do that in countries like that bc they feel that men are superior to women. In no way am I sticking up for them. I think its just how they were raised. I am completely against it. And like it was stated above, no matter how a woman or girl is dressed or looks should that entice a male to rape or hurt her in any way. And to put a girl especially of that age through so much pain just so they can "protect" her, is bs. It would be so much easier to teach a man as a boy the difference between right and wrong. I really wish there was some way to help these poor girls.

^^

Well, when you watch the clip you will see that the adult victims of the breast ironing go into the classrooms to inform the young children about what happened to them. That is the only way to reach men and children in general: when they are still young enough to be influenced the right way.

I feel sorry too Conny..but also angry because of how this world is run by the sex that is doing a very poor job on it. I vote for a matriarchal world!