Re: Private Messages - for the record

We went through this when it was first made possible, I will explain again....

Mods CANNOT read all Private messages.

Only Sherry and myself can read a conversation IF and ONLY if someone complains about a private message.

We were given that ability because a lot of times, the complained about message was near then end of a long convo and most times the complainer was just as gulity as the complained about.

Thanks for posting this, Ann.

I would also like to announce that I am not Soruman or any other evil wizard.
I prefer to think of myself as a Bilbo Baggins type... before he got weird and creepy and obsessive. And I can't blow smoke rings.

I agreed to be a mod because I know I have what it takes and I know that I am capable of making this site better for all of us. I'm not a mod because it's my heart's desire. I have never sought modship actually.

Do yourself a favor and have a fanciful evening!

Not that I'm signing off or anything.

Most mysterious.

What's going onnnnnn. All this overblown secrecy and agenda and weirdness. It's terribly exciting. Someone tell me stuff. Let's have it out here in the open, forget PMs. Seems like all members concerned will be getting conflicting PMs from many people anyway. I reckon all clubs should be dissolved and we should all be in one big happy one together. Called PnQ. Yeah. Let's go back to talking about muslims and women's rights and happy birthdays, y'all.

I have nothing to edit or add. Thanks for taking the time to explain things, Britt.

I would like to apologize to everyone on the site for having made a big, dopey blunder. It won't happen again.

We all make misstakes. As I said: congrats Jane, I am sure you will do very well as a mod:)

With all due respect to those who are involved, in my opinion, the first thing the moderator should know about is how to ensure confidentiality, not because she/he was not particular informed about that particular rule.

I personally have high hopes for the betterment of this site and in order to truly achieve that confidence, everyone should always be truthful, fair (free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice), friendly and helpful especially the moderators as they are supposed to be role models.

And thanks for the clarification Ann.

I appreciate your thoughts. Actually, it was kind of along the lines of my club's confidentiality not being ensured because a member pulled a big no-no by breaking in.
However, I do agree with you - I should've known better. But if I didn't then, I certainly do now.

"role models."

That is implied but it's not part of the job persay (as has been said in the past when I was a member and said the same thing i.e. that mods are role models). Either way, I would like to be a role model and I'll work harder to fulfill all the traits you mentioned.

Thank you :)

I have known Jane for a number of years and I for one have 100% confidence in her..

And with all due respect i think you have to look further afield for the breach of confidentiality although that person is no longer a member of this site. Like you i have high hopes for the betterment of this site. lets all stick around and make it work..

Nicko, don't get me wrong, and I meant no harm with my initial comment. The person you were referring as you said has already been suspended for breaching such confidentiality, I however believe that the leaders must demand more of/from themselves before they can legitimately expect more from their followers.

Policies and procedures (the need to be implemented) after thoroughly ensured if not tested should be communicated to all the members and not just within particular groups/clubs.

I think Jane has already acknowledge that fault and looking forward for that honesty and sincerity.

Thank you Britt.

"The person you were referring as you said has already been suspended for breaching such confidentiality"

Yes, I appreciate your support Nicko and you are a great friend of mine but this person has been dealt with appropriately, it's true. And I will be the first to admit that I did something wrong even if my friends don't want to admit it. They're too forgiving of my failures sometimes!

"after thoroughly ensured if not tested"

I completely agree with you on this which is why we were testing what you are likely mentioning (DCM) before implementing it. It so far has not worked out as well as I had hoped unfortunately since it has not remained solely in the clubs where it is being tested.
All other policies should indeed be communicated to everyone at once. In the future, they will be.

"I think Jane has already acknowledge that fault and looking forward for that honesty and sincerity."

Thank you for the recognition, I appreciate it.

However, I do agree with you - I should've known better. But if I didn't then, I certainly do now.

From the facebook post of the whole conversation, if you didn't KNOW better then why were you reminding them not to repeat it ....the whole thing is repulsive and unless it gets corrected I would know longer consider this site a reputable place to be! disgusting!

Is this P&Q? :(

I am in the dark, as usual:(

I was reminding them not to repeat it because I was sharing potentially new things with my friends before the mods submitted the polished versions to the entire site. Some of the ideas were not set in stone yet either. I'm a new mod and I lacked the courage to make a report for everyone to see before being approved by all the other mods. It was my mistake. Everyone will receive the same info at the same time from now on - back to how it has always been.
I wish I had learned the lesson some other way without feeling like my privacy has been raped. That's what I get for being stupid and trusting everyone on this site to not break into clubs.
I am sorry to have broken the rules so early on, it was foolish. I cannot keep groveling. I have some dignity as a human being.
I was just awoken by a phone call from my dad saying my grandma died. I may not be on PnQ for several days.
This is all making me feel very sad.
I am also very very sad that illuminati and bob will/have read such nasty things about them. I wish I could take it all back.

Take care everyone.

Well personally I hope everyone on P&Q reads what I read! in its entirety! It goes beyond petty name calling...it dictates the integrity of this site, the contest, and other things! I guess we will see if there is any integrity by the way it is all handled ....or not handled.

The topic is for the record, and for the record TC stands for THE CLUB. If I did not believe silvershoes could do for this site what she has done for The Club I would not take a stand for her. What said in the club stays in the club, but I can tell you that under the guidance of silvershoes I have come to love a very diverse group. I believe drama is healthy and Lord knows I have had some drama with some former mods such as Kevin, that is just a matter of public record. I never had any drama with the Italian Stallion in or outside the club. Any DRAMA between Illuminatix RTVW and I is only imagined he is a dear poet.

"United we stand divided we fall" to make a long story short

Re: Private Messages - for the record
We must read the subtopic!!

Britt, while waiting for other mods verdict, I think we are allowed to speak up about how we feel regarding this matter.

Let's dare to be truthful this time. according to supposedly a list of new rules which Jane has openly discussed with certain people, it was never mentioned nor emphasized that it was "under test only" it was clearly mentioned that everyone is encourage to carry out that "new rule".

In my humble opinion, if members were suspended for their actions then so should any Mods who are giving all the informations that are supposedly for the Mods eyes only. Sometimes apologizing doesn't make up for it certainly not if 2 members have been banned.

"Well personally I hope everyone on P&Q reads what I read! in its entirety! It goes beyond petty name calling...it dictates the integrity of this site, the contest, and other things! I guess we will see if there is any integrity by the way it is all handled ....or not handled."

Oh, calm down, Deana. Can we just take a step back here? This is a little struggling poetry site on the internet. The site is flawed, the contest never had integrity to begin with, and the most significant things on here are the relationships between members, and the efforts shown by mods and some members to improve the situation. While member rights are important, that doesn't include the right to not feel offended. The internet is sort of a free-for-all world, if you haven't noticed. How about we just focus on some poetry and good discussions? People have lots to do already without having to worry about preserving the delicate feelings of some individuals.