A hidden meaning

  • january friend
    14 years ago

    I know there's probably dozens of posts on this topic, but here it is anyway... do you guys think dreams are kinda like subliminal messages or anything meaningful? i know some are simply ridiculous but do you think there can be some truth to others?

  • Tammi
    14 years ago

    Yes I do there is a reason for some dreams and some truth to them

  • ChaoticallyMe
    14 years ago

    It's just messages that are already in your head. If you know your thoughts well enough, you can break down your dreams into meaningful parts. I know my self pretty well so I can usually make sense of my dreams. I usually dream of what I desire. Women..hahaha..matters that invoke strong emotions (in my case- lust) that we feel through out our days are usually what's prominent.

  • silvershoes
    14 years ago

    Dreams are representative of random nerve firings and recent thought patterns. They have meaning and they can be insightful, but they're nothing magical :)

  • ChaoticallyMe
    14 years ago

    ^ Jung would disagree haha

  • sibyllene
    14 years ago

    I wonder if dreams also form a sort of functional purpose, emotionally. My emotions in my dreams tend to be heightened. I know I've felt much keener rage, fear, violence, spirituality, lust and claustrophobia in dreams than I've ever had need to feel in "real life." Maybe dreams give us a way of working out those emotions and sides of ourselves that aren't generally expressed in waking hours. Helps you kind of delve into those darker, booby-trapped corners of your personality a bit.

  • silvershoes
    14 years ago

    Of course they fit. Change is always coming.
    That's like thinking horoscopes are incredible when all they're doing is stating something so unbearably broad that technically anyone can relate.

    I remember years ago Kevin sent me a description of my personality that was taken from a psychology book to test if I would say "Oh wow! That sounds just like me!" or if I'd catch on that most people could warp the description to match their personality. Fortunately I caught on.

  • sibyllene
    14 years ago

    Your name, Jane, shows that you are a vigorous lover of life. You are open to new fresh changes in your path, while you tend to hold to your guns on issues. You are friendly and generally well liked, but there are parts of your psyche that are hard for you to share with all but your closest friends.

    You work hard and play hard, and don't like to submit any work until you feel satisfied with it. You usually have good intuition about things, and people often comment on your capacity for insight.

  • sibyllene
    14 years ago

    I think what we -believe- things to mean, both individually and communally, shows us a great deal about what we really are. Our attachment of meaning to what is probably random neurons is the truly remarkable thing.

    I think self-imposed meaning is no less important or true than if we were to really be receiving hints from the cosmos.

  • ChaoticallyMe
    14 years ago

    ^I have those too! I would just stand there and wait for what I know is coming up because it's such an odd feeling. Our brains gather all sorts of information..some without our awareness. I think what it is is "secret" broken thoughts and memories of situations we've experienced in the past in replay with similar reagents. I find that it happens a lot in scenes I'm familiar with. Since I'm so used to it and I've likely been through what's about to happen before, it can feel like I'm "foretelling" the events when it's just playing old patterns over again. The odd are pretty high for this anyway. I know the other people involved well so I can pretty well guess how they would respond too.

    I also find that in focusing on this idea, difference in the pattern is noticed. A moment starts to feel like a dejavu but it fades because I pay attention to what I "remembered" and see the changes. Mysteries of the mind..

  • silvershoes
    14 years ago

    I wouldn't say I'm a pessimist... a realist, yeah. I don't believe in anything metaphysical. I believe in coincidence and the easy manipulation of thought.

    "Your name, Jane, shows that you are a vigorous lover of life. You are open to new fresh changes in your path, while you tend to hold to your guns on issues. You are friendly and generally well liked, but there are parts of your psyche that are hard for you to share with all but your closest friends.

    You work hard and play hard, and don't like to submit any work until you feel satisfied with it. You usually have good intuition about things, and people often comment on your capacity for insight."

    Oh wow! That sounds just like me! NO WAY. How'd you know!? :) Haha.

    "I have those too! I would just stand there and wait for what I know is coming up because it's such an odd feeling. Our brains gather all sorts of information..some without our awareness. I think what it is is "secret" broken thoughts and memories of situations we've experienced in the past in replay with similar reagents. I find that it happens a lot in scenes I'm familiar with. Since I'm so used to it and I've likely been through what's about to happen before, it can feel like I'm "foretelling" the events when it's just playing old patterns over again. The odd are pretty high for this anyway. I know the other people involved well so I can pretty well guess how they would respond too."

    I have them too. You're good at explaining things exactly how I would like to explain them.

  • ChaoticallyMe
    14 years ago

    Was just gonna add that...manipulation of thoughts. When we can't make sense of it, we make nonsense of it. The magic and even holiness of the unknown.

    Jane- one step ahead of you.

  • Michael D Nalley
    14 years ago

    The strangest experience I have had is to feel like an event that is unfolding was in a dream I had sometime earlier

    Precognition is alot like dejavu

  • HisBlueEyedAngel
    14 years ago

    Yes I believe that there can be some truth to them

  • Mello193
    14 years ago

    It all depends

  • Kevin
    14 years ago

    My dreams tend to show me, in an abstract slightly non direct way, the things I'm either thinking alot about, or not enough.

    SO for example, if I'm feeling like a family member is trying to trap me into some responsibility, I wouldn't dream of that directly, nothing so blunt as me being in a cage with said family member holding the key.

    No, I'd dream about something like a natural disaster, where both myself and my family member were trying to save people, and I'd be given more jobs to do, and rebel in some way.

    Sometimes, occasionally I'll get insights from dreams but it's never anything I don't know already, even if I am ignoring it.

  • Hallucinostic
    14 years ago

    Well, psychologically speaking, Dreams are bits and pieces of or mostly made up of repressed memories. Repressed memories are those things that we cant immediately recall but absolutely know about it, like the "something on the tip of the tongue thing". Ysee, Repression tends to become weaker during sleep than waking life, that happens so that we may recall something in a dream.

    But, Im really not ruling out any supernatural explications about it.

  • Captain HC
    14 years ago

    There are subliminal messages to dreams.

  • Mello193
    14 years ago

    I supose

  • mistressxsork
    14 years ago

    "dreams are the touchstones of our character"

  • Mello193
    14 years ago

    Im not jennifer but im good thanks for asking.

  • The Princess
    14 years ago

    Maybe I'm the only one that's lacking imagination here, but I always thought dreams are your mind, kind of, figuring out, making sense and arranging information, images, feelings and data (boring, right?).

    It is said that whoever and whatever you dream of is not ''made up'' by your mind but are things and faces you've seen, even if you can't remember them. Like the ''bad guy'' in a dream (nightmare?) of yours that's running after you with a knife (familiar?) can be someone you've passed by while crossing the street, for example, or someone you've seen on the screen or in a newspaper, someone you maybe don't remember but your subconscious does.

    It's also said that you simply do not dream one dream a night but something between 3-7 dreams (I think?) maybe that's why most dreams don't make sense and the moment you wake up, it's like, ''how in the world I believed that? how didn't notice something weird in there? how didn't I figure out I was dreaming?'' the moment you wake up, then it's almost forgotten a few minutes afterwards. to me, it's like, everything falls back in it's place in your mind.

    Yes, sometimes we have that feeling about what people would say next, but then you sometimes even say the same thing with some people all the time at the same moment, what of it? even at movies or while reading books you tend to ''feel'' what's going to happen and it does, exactly like you thought it would at times. it's mostly that you are thinking along the same lines/patterns. certainly not that you've dreamt it.

    I have a friend that would sometimes greets me with horror in her eyes and would look around then whisper ''Norgi, lets change plans, I have that feeling something bad will happen today'' well most probably something happens, yes, but it's because you're thinking more of ''bad'' things and concentrating on them, things you probably wouldn't have noticed any other day, like a car cutting you off, seeing a fight, normal stuff. you make things of it. actually the worse thing catch you mostly ungraded.

    How many times have we all felt something would surely happen and it didn't? plenty, I bet. and I believe ''accidentally correct is methodology unreliable''. to me, such feelings have been over analyzed, for years, it's been reasoned it with having a six sense, a deja vu, a previous life, dreams, sight, and lately, that people attract whatever they feel/think. to me, all these are nonsense. but then again, as I said, I'm probably seriously lacking in imagination compared to people who believe such.

  • The Prince
    14 years ago

    Sort of (slightly) agree with Nor here:
    Dreams just a mish mash of collective thought we'd buried and they surface as one experience or vision; it's why a lot of dreams have inconsistencies, like stuff that doesnt make sense. Many people just take the main 'symbol' or theme of the dream and claim it means something. Looking up on dream websites for metaphors makes no sense...I mean, I dreamt about a tree so it means I'm reaching for new heights? Ah, a dream is not a poem. Metaphors don't manifest themselves in our subconscious.

    When we're dreaming, we're in a state of 'meditation' and it's the only time in our lives when we're completely vulnerable. What surfaces during this time are just memories mixed with familiar locations and faces and just...brain fog. I'm a sceptical person but I honestly believe that dreams are just uncontrolled thoughts. We can control our thoughts in the day (to a large extent) but you cannot control your dreams.

    It's not lacking in imagination, it's just knowing what your imagination means. Dreams are interesting, and dig up a lot of things you might not have thought relevant but they certainly don't have hidden meanings.

  • sibyllene
    14 years ago

    "Metaphors don't manifest themselves in our subconscious."

    Danny, I think you just made Jung start to sob.

  • The Princess
    14 years ago

    You guys should all pack and come to Egypt, seriously (those of you who believe in such at least) you'll have fun. we have our own versions of ''Carl Jung'' here, plenty of them. they interpret/read dreams, coffee cups, palms and future. whatever your heart desires. XD (oh, the man must be turning in his grave because of me comparing him to the fraud we have here).

    oh well. same field.

    I'm not sure about the ''Metaphors'' thing. but I don't believe that people can dream the future or dream things that are yet to happen. that's too hocous pocous even to me. but there can surely be symbolisms concerning your past, past experiences, worries, hopes or thoughts that have been troubling you. but certainly not future incidents, at least not to me.

  • BehindTheSmile
    14 years ago

    I believe dreams are what has happened during the day and what you fall asleep thinking about replaying in interesting ways. my dreams are usually of my ex (still not over him) or my friend that i like.

  • adriaan
    14 years ago

    Dreams are just your subconsciousness seeping out from underneath...I rarely dream at all, since most of the time the only thing I'm thinking about doing is sleeping. :) I usually dream only about things which were DAYS ago. Certainly never the future. Dreams have never meant anything special to me.