PNQ on facebook?

That's cool. Then I have all confidence that you can do it yourself, unless a mod wants to write one. It's already not an officially sanctioned (by the admins) group, so I don't think anyone will care too much.

Its not about my ability to do it or anyones objections.... It just looks better to quote a moderator O-o..... Its more official to quote a moderator than to make something up.

It doesn't seem like the moderators are too keen on having any direct involvement with this project at this stage. I suggest you just run with it, seeing as you have all the skillllz.

Ehh Laziness. I'll end up having to.

Yeah, we're just a bunch of lazy asses, go figure...

I think he's saying that HE'S too lazy to do it. Maybe.

Its laziness on both sides. Moderators truly don't have THAT much of a job on this site. Threads, New Members, and the usual O-o. Its the same for any forum related site. Need to remember youre not talking to the usual member that has no idea what you do or anything of the sort. I'm someone whos done it myself and built other things for people to do it.

Britt's going to put you over her knee, boy.

That sounds awkward xD. But yeah, its whatever. I've done it for things a lot higher up in the world than P&Qs O-o. Its not THAT complicated. The only reason I don't do it anymore is because I want to do psychiatrics and not computer stuff. I'd rather help people on a personal level. Plus its much better income, nearly $100,000 a year once I get my masters <3. Can't wait. But oh well. I'll get it done I guess.

Thats basic moderator things so yes, plus add in ownership responsibilities, advertisement, relations with other companies. And there you go. Its your job to do, so you cant really complain. You chose it, if you can't do it and do it well then it shouldn't be something you do.

Its not about not wanting to do it its about appearance. Last time I checked appearance is important for a site.

Im only on the friendship forum because its all thats worth the time I have. I quit writing poetry, its not why I am here at all. Being a better member if I were active every day in every thread, it wouldnt change activity and gaining new members, itd only change individual activity. I dont nominate because thats not what I do. I Critique and help people write, I dont think it should be a contest. Its just a personal view not a lack of willingness. The day I read an amazingly stunning poem is the day I nominate it.

Also for facebook users, just search Poems & Quotes, its up for liking.

Im on here everyday to do what I need to do, I handle most things via messages or facebook with members or email. Im saying your job on this site isnt as hard as you make it to be.

Its about getting new members, if you dont care about new members then it kinda defeats the purpose of having a site if you don't want growth.

So you say, I highly doubt you have 43,000ish a year by far. Just because I don't participate, doesn't mean I don't look around the site. There isn't that much activity. You may get some members but they just idle or are members other accounts.

Roughly 20-40 people on at a time.

This thread is getting funny.

Like Britt said, new members aren't an issue - we'd rather focus on involving the membership we have.

P.S. Britt spends several hours of unpaid time on this site most days. I wouldn't call her lazy. It's not laziness that keeps her (or any of us) from wanting to get involved in a Facebook site. It's an unwillingness to commit to extra maintenance time and affiliation. Nobody who's not already on the site is going to care if the blurb is written by a moderator. I know appearances are generally important, but Facebook is probably the least formal platform you can have. If you're really struggling with coming up with something that sounds good, I'm sure there are others on here who would help you with that.

And Britt isn't the only moderator, its directed at the group not the individual. I've personally had to do the same thing and then some. Its really not that hard. You blow being a moderator and the whole thing far out of proportion.

Once again, Ill put it really simple too:

Its not about complication, its about appearance. It looks better, its not that Im having any trouble.

Being a moderator CAN be hard sometimes, but mostly the point is that it's a fair amount of volunteer work, and the reason the mods don't wish to be directly affiliated with the Facebook site is because we are unwilling to commit to it. I guess I don't see why this is even part of the discussion.

"Once again, Ill put it really simple too:

Its not about complication, its about appearance. It looks better, its not that Im having any trouble."

I'll put it simply as well:

You've clearly been given an answer. In case you're having trouble catching the subtleties, it was "No." Now go ahead and write the damn thing.

Or don't. Don't really care.

This is bullshit! I've been affiliated with many sites and forums, and to be honest, this is one of the most time consuming, non-paid positions I've taken on a site. This is one of the 'Hardest' Moderator jobs I've seen and we get nothing in return but little punk asses like yourself who think they know everything. I've had just about enough of it.

Britt. and Sibs. mentioned what we think, and I'll say it as well...we don't care what you do. Write something or don't...stop complaining about insignificant issues.

Tsukuyomi,

I haven't said anything so far because I was out of town and then sick, but the final answer that all us moderators came up with is NO. We do not want a facebook page and we will not be a part of it.

I think you better step back and re-examine your words very closely before calling any of the moderators lazy.

This bunch is very hard working and OVER active in the things that they have chosen to tackle.

Now, I will have anymore of this non-sense. I have to step out for a bit today to prepare for another snow storm coming right at us, but when I log on this afternoon I will start penalizing and deleting post from this point on.

I strongly urge you to walk a fine line.

Enough said!

Final answer: No moderator here will be a part of a facebook page for poems-and-quotes!

~~Sher

Each one of us signs on daily and...
-Checks all the forums for: Spam, rule-breaking, disrespectful posts, feedback, questions, concerns
-Checks mod tools for: Complaints on poetry, complaints on comments on poetry, complaints regarding plagiarism, Praises regarding comments, Member appeals, Complaints on private messages, Complaints on avatars and screen names, etc.
-Checks the mod forums to make sure we're all up to date with daily site happenings, and to vote on new ways to manage the site or new rules/things to instill
-Checks our PM boxes for concerns, comments, and questions about the site.
-Marks spammers in the mod forums for higher mods to suspend

*Then on top of these things, all of us will filter through tons of new members daily and write them up to be activated (though Britt tends to take care of this - she's a trooper!)
We also check our moderator email through Yahoo and review emails from members.
Lastly, we host most of the site pages, such as: Weekly Winners thread, Life of a Poet, Life of a PnQ Poet, Poetry Workshop, Word of the day...
Managing the weekly competition takes some time. We are in direct contact with the judges to muster votes and comments.

Every day there are new trials to deal with. We don't have time or the energy to be dealing with a Facebook page, especially because our work as mods is strictly VOLUNTEER. I don't think any of us are lazy for not wanting to add another time consuming job to our full plates. We have lives. I go to university.
If you want the Facebook page, then we've given you our go ahead to do it. If you can't write up a brief description for the page, I don't know what to tell you. All this talk and you don't know how to come up with 3 sentences about PnQ? I find it unbelievable that you've done all these other things you boast about.
We are living proof that we've "been" moderators on a website. We ARE moderators of THIS website, so I'm pretty sure we know what being a moderator is, kiddo.

AJ got you the pic, it takes 5 minutes to put the rest of the page together. Tops. Congrats for getting it done!

What progress. i think the idea is going to fail....?

Just putting my cents in: I am glad. we are a community not a member of a site so many are obsessed with....we rely on passion, not chats and messaging.