Nana’s poetry competition

Can somebody please explain what happened to Nana's poetry competition and why the threads were deleted ..?

Thank you

Well thats very unfortunate to say the least..

A question? once a thread is posted doesn't it become the property of the members? Just because the poster doesn't like the way things are going shouldn't mean they can have it deleted.

Re Nana's contest a lot of people put a lot of effort into this contest not just the contestants but the judges as well, could not somebody else have been asked to take it over??

I mean a lot of members will think twice about entering a contest such as this if they are just deleted on a whim...i know i will.. A LOT more thought should have gone into this....

I don't think anybody will ask for your head and hopefully your not thinking of chucking it in! if thats what you are insinuating you are a dedicated member and moderator, and we all screw up!

Maybe somebody can still take over Nana's contest

Yes it is now up for discussion in the mod forums but member's insight would help - how they think deleting/locking should be done in the future if it is at the request of the OP.

I don't think there's a need to change this rule.

I still feel the OP should have the full rights to whether delete or lock their threads, (without by-passing the mods of course.)

You may ask me why.

First, invalid or valid reasons the OP may be having, still, they have the rights to feel whatever it is.

In case you have a complain and the thread has been closed, you can always start one, that way you can do and go according to your point view, but since this is a contest thread and not everyone is allowed to create one, you can always join the next contest.

As for the judges and participants, I'm sure they understand the necessity of such actions, besides, it's not always the prize really, it is about patience, understanding and willingness to give without a thought of receiving anything in return, yes, not even a thank you :)

For Temps who told me that I have pissed so many people off. Pretty funny

and for nicko

question? once a thread is posted doesn't it become the property of the members? Just because the poster doesn't like the way things are going shouldn't mean they can have it deleted.

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1st of all sir I have put efforts into this contest a lot more than the poets who been writing, and it was not my pleasure nor that I did that out of a happy feeling. don't you think!

However I have closed this contest for ONE : I did put efforts for this contest and spent enough time knowing how much work I usually have; yet many backed off, and I will have to look for a new judge soon enough ?

and for people entering their poems yet by asking the opinion and the editions of some other competitors...when I made it clear you are not allowed to show your work for other people..so how about the poems being edited by others who are a PART of this contest and TWO said it by mistake for me.

Some judges been revealed..and

I mean a lot of members will think twice about entering a contest such as this if they are just deleted on a whim...

^^^aha and I think they did not think twice before backing OFF

Well you can all bite my head off; but don't try and send me such a pm again about poeple being angry because I am pissed off as well for how things went when I was only trying to make some fun for everyone else; it's not that easy either and i think those who held the contests before me may know that.

Thanks Myryn for what you said; at least you was able to see it from my corner.

Now i will no longer reply to anything; it was my full right to delete the threads when 3/4 the members in the contest cheated or complained or backed off.
It's my right too to feel like my efforts are appreciated Nicko.

I apologize to the very few members who had fun doing this, but I bet you would understand me if you were in MY shoes.

Take Care

For those who want to know;

1st round :

1)Silver shoes aka Kiki : Acquiescence : 17
2)Chelsey aka epsidipsi : Daydreams : 10
3)Flynel aka Dolly: My life, my dreams :5
4)Michael aka Flipi : Serenity Sonnet : 13
5)Nano aka eggy : Lacerated : 16
6)Malinda aka fitchi : Sliver spoons : 15
7)Dreamer aka ego : Sweet Summertime : 16
8)Novalyn Grace RR aka lola : Anatomy of a Dream : 14
9)Luanne aka Rodrego: Paralleled : 18
10)Nicko aka Tala : Yersinia pestis : 17
11)Jad aka monkus: You : 7
12)Ingrid aka lilo: Angel's flight : 12
13)Melpo aka peekatcho : Writers Cramp : 13

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2nd round :

1)Silver shoes aka Kiki : out
2)Chelsey aka epsidipsi : Sheltered Life: 15
4)Michael aka Flipi : Prayer for Egypt
5)Nano aka eggy : out
6)Malinda aka fitchi : The Christening of Cliche : 21
7)Dreamer aka ego : Medusa :18
8)Novalyn Grace RR aka lola : out
9)Luanne aka Rodrego: Energetics and Illusions :27
10)Nicko aka Tala : Words: 12
11)Jad aka monkus: Will it Matter :12
12)Ingrid aka lilo: Reciprocity : 21
13)Melpo aka peekatcho : out
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They Dance (AJ) : 30

Well it is kind of unfair that the contest was deleted so abruptly but hey, it's only a poetry website. We need to not blow this out of proportion. Let's just leave it here and bring on Luanne's contest!

We're all 'adults' here ;)

I dont think there is any rule, it's at the the discretion of the mods as only they can lock or delete a thread

I feel once a thread has been posted and members contribute ownership of the thread belongs to the site and the members not the OP as they have no rights to ask to have my or anybody else's posts deleted.

As to being understanding the necessity of such actions, well sorry but I dont I have no idea why the thread was deleted or what Nana's reasons are. The members and judges put a lot of effort into this contest, and no we don't win a sheep station for winning but that was never the reason for participating especially if you are a judge..

Sorry that this blew up on you Nana. I understand your frustration, I feel it's kind of hard to give rules such as "you can't ask the opinion of others on your poem before entering it." It's bound to happen and I'm sure it's happened in recent contests too. I know, you try to do something nice and it gets ruined. You have your reasons for closing the contest and I respect it personally. I think we should just get over it and go on with the next contest. It's just disappointing that a lot of us, you, participants, and judges put a lot of time into the contest and it didn't work out. Oh well, life goes on. Hopefully we can let this all blow over and move on.

Aw Nana:(

I am so sorry for you, hun. I understand things went wrong and you no longer felt like continueing the contest. I am dissapointed, because I don't enter into contests such as these often, but I can see from your post that you felt you had no other choice and I respect that.

For what it's worth: I think you did great, sweetheart. I have no knowledge about what went on with whom and I was just having fun participating.

I agree Ingrid, it was nice while it lasted. You did a nice job Nana really. You had some nice ideas going and the judges were pretty prompt in giving them your votes/comments.

Well it seems like Sir you dislike to read because I said what are the reasons;

one: cheating

two: a judge was revealed
another backed off

three: half the members backed off; and you really don't have to feel angry cause it was the last round for you.
As for the others no one complained yet; and I don't have to look forward for your opinions, I ran the contest and i wished it to be deleted, thanks for the agreement of the Mods regarding that and respecting my wish.
Thanks for those who stayed, and for those who understood my reasons, because it was no longer a normal contest it failed (1) and it went unfair (2).
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Now Looking forward for Luannes contest.

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It's just disappointing that a lot of us, you, participants, and judges put a lot of time into the contest and it didn't work out. Oh well, life goes on

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Yes jacey but sharing a poem is something and getting people editing it for you is something else don't you think; the poem is supposed to be the poets work no one else. To test their one abilities.

The judges put a ot of time, and I appreciate that but I don't appreciate the other stuff that went behind the scenes, and I do not like to share out of respect for some people, and I do not like to be pushed further.

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Thanks Ingrid..

Now let's move on..we have a new contest coming

Yup, Nana is a winner in my book:)

Let's move from this, ok?

To those who f**ed up: too bad, now Nana will not give you any kisses, he he he.

Ok Nana you posted same time as me. I also have no idea about people editing others poems or what other problems you were having etc but some of that stuff will always happen. I entered it for fun and was disappointed to see it finish as it did.

You know I'm not even guilty for doing that. I'm not one to ask the opinions of others when it is a contest like this. But it is bound to happen and it sucks when it does happen but people will break rules.

Ok, well you know now. Let's move from this. Nana is my fav. girl. Don't want her to hurt any more than she has to.

Let's all think of what to write for Lu's contest, ok?

Lol yap no more sun rays either :P

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So am I disappointed!!!
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now let's wait for Lu's.

Well it seems like sir you dislike to read because I said what are the reasons

Before you go firing anymore bullets as I said in my above post you posted the same time as me so i didn't get a chance to read it. I've always liked you, you have always been a positive on the boards but I still disagree with what you did

I am not firing bullets; I am trying to reply with the same tone if not nicer.
Brit said I would like this to go to my pm inbox , and I too disagree with what has been said over the boards when members been sending me pms and I was sorting it out there.
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I disagree with many things too you know; but I have a huge issue regarding justice; and the contest will no longer go in a fair way and I have a problem running such a contest.
Why unfair ? I already ,mentioned that, and to look for new judges and kicking out members who cheated..it would be too silly and lacks the fun that it engulfed before.
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please respect my wishes..I can't and won't run the contest after all that happened..if you want details just send me a pm..I made it clear for britt and she mentioned it in the very 1st post by her that I don't wish this to be sorted here!

Everyone else is as disappointed as Nana so let's just forget the whole thing. She has explained her side and so were others' disagreement and disappointment, guys all we have to do now is take it from here and prepare for the next contest, it's as simpe as that.

I don't think that once a thread is posted it becomes the property of the members, I think all OPs should have the right to have their threads locked when they wish, the members who want to continue can very well open a new thread.

Consider it, the thread that is, a private company/project and the other posters are people doing voluntary work by posting, the owner should have the right to end things, anyone else wants to continue they're more than welcome to do so, but under their own name.

HOWEVER, since members have rights to their posts as well, the ones they posted that is, I think the OP should have the right to ask for a thread to be locked but NOT deleted.

I also think you guys should look into editing posts, I don't know about everyone, but I dislike it when mods just go on editing posts when people are having a bit of disagreement when neither one of them complained about it, is it too much to let them talk it out?

I don't think posts should be edited unless they person they're addressed to complains or the post is extremely offensive, it can not be helped. Otherwise, we're all grown ups here and can deal with things, (I hope?), so no need to mother us and ask us to behave. If someone has a problem, let them say, I've seen in the past extremely mean posts and threads that had not been edited.

Who knew poets were such drama fiends. Nana, you're still a sunshine in my book. :)

Honestly, in my opinion I don't think a thread should ever be deleted, unless it has become derogoratory to someone in the thread with threats and such.( and it could be edited even then unless it gets out of hand ) Otherwise I think locking it would do just as good, and besides which it would become a good reference tool for something later on. You could perhaps need that thread to prove a point of being unbiased in a decision, or even refer to it later on for ideas about how to run a contest, what to do and not to do, unless the mods have access to them (deleted threads) then it wouldn't be necessary to prove any unbias. These are just my thoughts on the subject.

I wish we as members had a delete tool for the spam lol.

I guess I would have to say that if the original poster asked for the thread to be deleted, it should be deleted. They know better than anyone what they want done and it should be up to them, not other posters, mods or anyone else.

LOL lovely avatar Sylv.

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Not because I asked for my threads to be deleted..but seriously away from all this..Who ever makes a certain thread for a certain reason should hold the complete right to remove the thread; because for someone to ask a thread to be removed...they would have REAL reasons behind it, not asking for that out of fun .

This is a poetry website and a community where we all built certain XXX-ships, and connections with one another. Whether bad or good. If we can't even respect someone's wish or will to have their thread to be deleted for reasons they hold, then how will we communicate with each other well, whether in agreement or disagreement .

We are not investigating here, so we will never "really" need to get back to a certain post to prove a certain point..well not that urgent, since we don't always delete threads..it happens few FEW times I guess..and it wouldn't be that harmful to respect such a wish that's bothering the original poster.

Nana, is there a way that participants could have access to the judges' comments?

Sorry to see this contest end so abruptly. It did really surprise me. But I'm sure the next contest will have some fun times in store!

Yes of course..if anyone needs to see the comments on their work I already organized everything before I made that decision..or I would post them here if requested..already posted the points.

I think it would be nice to post them here if other contestants would agree. I wouldn't mind seeing the comments in regard to my poem and read the thoughts and judgement on it, regardless if it is critical or praise.

If you don't post them here Nana would you send me PM of mine. Thanks

I want to mention a couple of things and I don't want Nana to take it personally. It is to be taken generally for the consideration of all members.

Firstly, threads should have no reason to be deleted (unless spam, or immediately locked because the topic is recently repeated elsewhere etc). Locked, yes, if necessary, and with the agreement of several people. But to totally vanish? Huh? If a person makes a thread on this site, it is not their thread. It is the site's thread. The OP should be aware that they take that risk. All the OP has done is plant a seed. It is the members that make it grow. And so, the members deserve to behold it, with all its faults and quirks. I disagree that deleting threads helps communication and friendship within the site. It is not something one does in trust. It is done to hide something. It only creates suspicion, irritation and perhaps even resentment.

Secondly, these contests have taken quite a hold on the site. They have become almost a tradition that members expect to happen every month to the end. With this in mind, I suggest that future hosts of the contest need to do whatever is in their power to carry it out. Sure, crap happens: People drop out. It's happened before. That's okay. This contest is meant to test how steely the competitors are. Remember, Britt once did this contest with only five participants in total. If a judge is unavailable or revealed, replace them. It's happened before. If people are cheating, disqualify them (even though I don't think asking for help is cheating, unless they are plagiarising or colluding with the judges).
The thing is, just keep going. And if you can't host it anymore for whatever reason, let your participants and judges know in advance. Don't leave them in the lurch. And then try to find someone who may be willing to replace you as the host, so the contest can be carried through.

I've made this all seem like a major surgical operation. Haha. It's not. It's just a little website contest. But I don't think that should devalue it. Lord knows it's a tough gig. If people obviously care about it so much, I think hosts should be prepared for some "emergency procedures" so this sort of thing does not need to happen again.

Nana, I'm sorry it didn't work out. Sending you some Aussie sun- it's brighter.

Luanne, all the best with your contest!

Okay fine :)

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the results of one of the judges; did not put with the others..because I deleted the contest..aftter I organized the other 2 results after each other..
so this is one :

Prayer for Egypt
by: Flipi

PRAISE
- This poem used a clever way of incorporating the clich words by using appropriate subject material. It was expressed almost as a prayer- strong and fervent and genuine- and this effect masked the words so that they augmented rather than marred the writing.
- Kudos to the author for writing about a topical issue.

CRITIQUE
- This read like a series of statements. There was nothing that provoked thought or hinted at something deeper or painted a picture. Though the passion was certainly poetic, the piece did not really read well as a poem.
- soar like a bird rung painfully. Most of the expressions were universal and unoriginal. A couple of commas here and there would help.

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Reciprocity
by: lilo

PRAISE:
- Mmmmâ¦myth, oh yes. I like the idea of this poem. Quite original.
- Some nice images portrayed here, such as the perfume and the bitter dawn.

CRITIQUE:
- Much of this poem is just telling the reader what to think, instead of letting them think for themselves.
- The last line/word sounded far too dramatic by itself.

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Sheltered Life:
by: epsidipsi

PRAISE:
- An emotional write that is quite involving, using some vivid imagery.

CRITIQUE:
- Much of the writing seemed forced. Some of it worked because the blunt effect helped the impassioned delivery. But there were bits of that sounded a little out of place, such as adore and heartbreak and lie. It was a little odd that these words were introduced as Words like that. Effective for a courtroom appeal perhaps, but did not suit the poem.

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Medusa.
by: Ego

PRAISE:
- Oooh, there was something quite dark and attractive about this little number. Very sensual and tantalising, good flow. Unlike many of the poems submitted here, this author did not try too hard, but just let the story unfold.
- I think the effect of no full stops (using heaps of commas instead) turned out to be a good decision, even though there was plenty of place for them. This gave the poem a rather breathless/underwater/sexy feel.

CRITIQUE:
- Didnt like some of the phrasing, such as the of which you adore

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The Christening of Cliche
by: Fitchi

PRAISE:
- I thought this was quite wonderful. This author has a marvellous imagination and deep, perceptive wit. Not a bromide at all.
- A great story with great significance, unravelled beautifully. Made me smile and read it again to appreciate it a little more. The ending was brilliant.

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Words
by: tala

PRAISE:
- I liked the bare, stripped down approach in this poem that was nevertheless bubbling with passion. A masculine poem. This author has a rugged and callous way with words and grammar, yet they are used here like the dirt surrounding a gemstone.
- I liked how the writer seems to twist and turn with the poem, probing himself, laying out his wretchedness on the paper. Despite this, the poem does not sound cheesy or overly dramatic. This primarily due to its sincerity and unpretentiousness.

CRITIQUE:
- Some of the images were not very imaginative (broken picture frame, shadows on the walls, cold embrace etc)- however, in the character of the context, they did not mar the poem.

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Energetics and Illusions

by: Rodrego

PRAISE:
- It is clear that there is quite a master behind this piece. The second stanza, in particular, was classily written, using specific details to evoke much more.

CRITIQUE
- Despite the mastery, this poem was surprisingly¦ bland. It started off preachy and ended with a bunch of statements that were just stating. It didnt take me anywhere. It just told me something I already knew, without anything personal or interesting to pierce through this universal truth. There was no warm connection made between the writer and reader.

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They Dance -
by: Lucy

PRAISE:
- I liked sizzled snare that was spot on and quite original.
- Conveys a sweet notion. I could almost sense a little competition between the arty musicians and the dancers themselves. I liked the contrast between the fluid dress and the sharp tuxedo.

CRITIQUE:
- Most of it was quite banal. The message was unoriginal. I think it could have been developed much further.

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Will it Matter
by: monkus

PRAISE:
- This writer has an enthusiasm for poetry- I encourage them to read more poetry- preferably by professionals.

CRITIQUE:
- Im sorry to say that this poem did not successfully overcome the challenge of this round. It was formulaic to the max. Almost all the challenge words were used in contexts that should have been avoided, and then some. This writer needs to actually be honest and open up in their poetry, giving details and their own personalities and thoughts, instead of hiding behind contrived lines that have weakened their effect over the centuries.

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and these are the other two :

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Prayer for Egypt
by: Flipi

PRAISE: Use of current events is good, something the reader can relate to. The
poem is understandable using "regular words" to present the writer's message.

CRITQUE: Cadence/flow needs some work. Punctuation,, a few comma's could be
used to give a pause.

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Prayer for Egypt
by: Flipi

Praise
- Used all the "cliche" words, and did not make them seem over dramatic or over done - placed very well.
- A heartwarming piece full of love and emotion, full of feeling for Egypt, done so in a short but concise way.

Critique
- Maybe adding a bit more to the piece would give it more depth and detail to seem a bit more creative.
- Line breaks could help the flow of this poem, I feel as though it was run together.

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Reciprocity
by: lilo

PRAISE: Written with words that the reader can understand without using a dictionary
with the exception of reciprocity. Message of the write is presented nicely and
different from others who wrote about same subject.

CRITQUE: Cadence/flow is a little off for me in some places. In this line, I believe the
word pains should be pain, endured all pains lies bring.

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Reciprocity
by: lilo

Praise:
-A great ending - very strong and full of imagery and emotion.
-A few lines throughout the piece were very creative and definitely heartfelt - you could see the emotions coming through.

Critique:
- Punctuation needs a bit of work - commas used where they don't need to be and a lack of commas where they should be.
- The words were used okay here, they seemed to be packed together to try and fit them into the piece, and they felt a bit cliche here.

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Sheltered Life:
by: epsidipsi

PRAISE: Wrote about a subject that we all seem to shy away from, the lives of people
who find themselves homeless through no fault of their own. Gives the reader a
glimpse into one little girl's corner of the world.

CRITQUE: There are a couple of lines where it seems a word is missing. This line is
one for me, cling to cream walls. For some reason I want it to read cling to cream
colored walls and this line doesn't work for me, cling to cream walls. The writer could
smooth the flow out some.

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Praise:
- A truly heartbreaking piece, I have to say one of the most emotional ones here. Such a sad thing, neglect and child abuse.
-Laid out like a complete story, and made me want to read more to know what happens to this poor child.

Critique:
-Felt the some of the words were shoved into the piece to make them fit, such as "adore".
-Punctuation needs help, it was not consistent and took away from the flow.

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Medusa.
by: Ego

PRAISE: This writer's words gave me chills as I read. I could almost feel those
tentacles brushing against me. I like how the writer takes the sting of the jellyfish to
compare that pain to pain that sometimes is endured in love. I think this is an original
presentation of an overused subject and done well.

CRITQUE: This was written as one long sentence. There are places where perhaps
a sentence should end and another begin. (A period after adore in second line, move
the remainder of that line down to begin a new sentence.)

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Praise:
-Words were used effectively and did not feel cliche at all, brought a different spin to the challenge.
-A piece that I've read a couple times and still can't completely wrap my head around as it's so open for interpretation (I see this as a good thing).

Critique:
-The line breaks were very confusing, unsure as to why the writer broke them halfway through instead of creating a new line.
-Structure of the piece was a bit bland, one big stanza with choppy lines, not aesthetically pleasing.

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The Christening of Cliche
by: Fitchi

PRAISE: The verse that begins "For thousands of years" is well written, flows
smoothly.

CRITQUE: The parts of the whole don't fit together at all. I think I understand what the
writer was attempting to do but it just doesn't work for me.

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Praise:
-Words were packed together but none seemed to be forced to fit for the challenge, done in a soft and easy way.
-A very unique write - not overly done and gave a fresh and interesting view on the pieces we see.

Critique:
-I was a bit confused by the quotations, was this the same person saying all of these things? If so, the quotation marks should not have been placed around each stanza.
- I could not feel as much emotion as the other poems entered - did not strike a lot of feeling here.

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Words
by: tala

PRAISE: Has some good lines

CRITQUE: Needs work on punctuation, capitalization.

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Praise:
-The second and last bit of the third stanza really hit, they were emotional and strong, very effective.
-The poem took an interesting twist and with a bit of editing I think could be a really strong piece.

Critique:
-Punctuation could help the flow - felt as though I was rushing through and had "run on" lines.
-Pieces of the poem with the "cliche" words were done in a bit of a cliche fashion.

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Energetics and Illusions
by: Rodrego

PRAISE: Well written, cadence/flow is smooth. Simply said, it works in the presentation of the writers message.

CRITQUE: The dashes and .... aren't needed.

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Praise:
-One of my favorites, was interesting and held so much emotion.
-The way the writer spoke each stanza was so powerful, the anguish and love was so strong and present.

Critique:
-This is a personal pet peeve, the punctuation was a bit weird but not overdone, just a weird choice in a place or two.
- No more critique :)

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They Dance -
by: Lucy

PRAISE: A joy to read, very smooth. Like the title repeated as the last lines of the verses.

CRITQUE: Left me wanting another verse or two.

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Will it Matter
by: monkus

PRAISE: The writer has the start of a good poem here.

CRITQUE: Needs work on the sentence structure, punctuation.

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Will it Matter
by: monkus

Praise:
-The end held a lot of questions that made the piece more interesting.
-All the words were used.

Critique:
-Very cliche, brought nothing new to the words selected.
-Feel as though I have read pieces like this a hundred times on this site alone. :/
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K i Think that's all..and
these are some of the opinions i received regarding the previous comments
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The poet's opinions :

Rodrego: scored 23; says : ... I think it's fair :)

Note :
The blurry web was particularly
puzzling- for starters, why was it black and silver?
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I'm not sure if I am suppose to answer the question or not ... lol

Blurry web = through tears

black and silver = the sky and stars
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Ego scored 21; says : It was neutral. Some parts were fair, some weren't. I think it all depended on if the judge understood the meaning of the poem or not. That influenced their vote.
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Tala scored 25; says : tala thinks its all cool ha... why wouldn't she .. lol
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KiKi scored 24; says : The critiques are fair and the praises are flattering and appreciated, but I do not by any means fall in love with myself or my writing :) I don't like this poem I wrote!
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Lola scored 21; says :I think the judges critiques and praises were pretty fair overall, after all a lot of personal preference plays a part in how we read and interpret writing. However I did notice a few .. I'd say "over exaggerated" remarks in the critiques that were quite silly to be honest. Such as on the critique of Anatomy of a Dream, there was a "spelling error" pointed out in which the 2nd judge attempted to fix a correctly spelled word with an entirely different word. Also in the 1st Judge's critique of Silver Spoons I found the remark about 'common rhymes' to be ridiculous. However both of those things have already been mentioned in the thread.
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Monkus scored 8; says : In my opinion the judges seem to have a grasp of poetry and are able to make good descisions From their judging and votings so far.
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Peekatcho scored 21; says : Judging seemed fair to me, and somewhat helpful when it comes to writing for the next round.
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Fitchi scored 21; says: Is it just that word or form of word.... sorry for the miscommunication. Like lovers instead of love, adoration instead of adore...BTW Judges critiques are fine.
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Flipi scored 18; says : My sylable count was off and I don't think it was unfair to count off .Humbly I did not understand the comment about nothing new vto rhyme schemes as if there are two words that have not been rhymed before lol
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Hmm I was almost completely done reading all the posts in the thread and was about to post my own, but then I read Abby's and realized she stated everything I was going to state (but more clearly because she's good at outdoing me).

I also agree with this -

"HOWEVER, since members have rights to their posts as well, the ones they posted that is, I think the OP should have the right to ask for a thread to be locked but NOT deleted. "

I also think threads should never be deleted unless a thread is spam or it's been voted by the majority of mods to be deleted because it's extremely derogatory. Deletion of threads irks me because as Abby said it implies suspicious behavior and ignites frustration and resentment. I want to be able to access my comments in threads and not have to worry that after typing up an enormous, thought out chunk of detailed information... it's at risk of disappearance at the discretion of the OP.

So lock? Yes. Delete? No.
That's what I reckon.

Also, Princess brought up editing of posts. My recent experience with editing posts in a thread that was eventually locked was exactly what you mentioned should be a reason for editing. There were nasty words being thrown around that were not at all mature or adult-like. I'm all for 2+ adults working out their differences in a thread, but not if their posts are riddled with back-handed remarks. That sort of garbage doesn't belong on this website.

. I disagree that deleting threads helps communication and friendship within the site.

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Well i did not say that as one, nor meant it at least.
But respecting others wish in removing a thread they made, helps.

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This contest is meant to test how steely the competitors are.
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yes which why asking the other competitors to edit their work in my own perspectives IS cheating..not their original efforts any longer..and that's not fair for me at least.

I did not leave anyone on purpose however and I did not ask anyone to host my contest, I was enjoying it and it was not my pleasure to end something that I have put enough efforts over.

And if it's that much hard for anyone to understand that I did not wish my contest to be over the boards any longer then that's not my problem, that's their issues. SH** happens, and I in no way wanted the contest to stay over the boards, yes i have enough reasons, I worked it out with those who pmed me and thankfully they all understood my reasons, this is not harmful, me wishing my contest to be deleted did not leave injures and victims..no one had a heart attack yet as far as I know.

it is a contest I made; people posted and registered..THANKS EVERYONE..I appreciate it..I will pray for you all and keep on thanking till the day I die for posting over my threads that I have deleted but sorry I neither feel sorry nor ashamed because I too put some enough efforts..and I had ENOUGH reasons for wanting them to "vanish".. no harm really..thanks for the sweat wasted over my contest!!!
See am such an ungrateful one.
Now allow me to move on.

I hesitate to think this conversation is about you or your contest anymore, Nana, so you don't need to continue defending yourself. That part is over and done and nobody was hurt, but it's helped spark ideas and thoughts relating to whether in the future, threads should be handled the same way.

It's good for everyone on PnQ to feel like they are having their voices heard. Your ideas help keep our site afloat.

It's good for everyone on PnQ to feel like they are having their voices heard. Your ideas help keep our site afloat.

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ya sure, and I was having my "voice heard" over again.
sounds like a parrot now.

"A question? once a thread is posted doesn't it become the property of the members? Just because the poster doesn't like the way things are going shouldn't mean they can have it deleted."

Prayer for Egypt

Dear lord let us embrace our
brothers and sisters in the east ;
May we love all faiths as our own
seeking truth together.
Free our souls, let them soar
like a bird high above the prejudged
races and religions:
Heal the heartbreak and hurt
caused by intolerance
Our sweet Allah we adore your divinity
Let us see past the lies that linger
to protect the innocent
Let your mercy endure
So we may be born again
Free of pharaohs and bondage.

Our Father
Our Father,
Who art in heaven,
hallowed be Thy name;
Thy kingdom come;
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen

A question? once a thread is posted doesn't it become the property of the members? Just because the poster doesn't like the way things are going shouldn't mean they can have it deleted.

CRITIQUE
- This read like a series of statements. There was nothing that provoked thought or hinted at something deeper or painted a picture. Though the passion was certainly poetic, the piece did not really read well as a poem.
- soar like a bird rung painfully. Most of the expressions were universal and unoriginal. A couple of commas here and there would help.

I do write from my heart, soul, and mind and I must agree that I will not sacrifice the meaning of my inspiration. I do apologize to those who are bored by clichE' expressions of Love I am not skilled in the free flow you critics adore

My lord made it so that we don't have to be bored ,we can just go to hell!

Cliche as it may sound I love your guts

Peace is flowing like a river,
Flowing out through you and me,
Spreading out into the desert,
Setting all the captives free.

Let it flow through me,
Let it flow through me,
Let the mighty peace of God
Flow out through me.
Let it flow through me,
Let it flow through me,
Let the mighty peace of God
Flow out through me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wEctHyuc0