Congratulations Egypt

  • Sunshine
    13 years ago

    Congrats..NOR and Egypt.
    Mubarak LEFT

  • Ingrid
    13 years ago

    Hold your horses, Nana..he may have left, but what will come in his place? I hope it will not become a second Iran...

    But I must say these people have written history, congrats brave ones....makes you think of how much power we have, as a people, when we make a fist together;)

  • debbylyn
    13 years ago

    Congratulations!

  • Ingrid
    13 years ago

    It will be interesting to see what happens next..which country will be next to have a change of power....Nothing will ever be the same again in the Middle East, I am very sure of that!

  • Sunshine
    13 years ago

    Jordan ?..I strongly doubt..

    and I am not sure things will change that much in middle east..what happened is good in a way and another.. but there's severe corruption, half the other leaders sold their conscious long ago ! Despite the hidden corruption, but ya at least something is happening..if even a bit.

  • Michael D Nalley
    13 years ago

    Congratulations ..Praise Be

  • sibyllene
    13 years ago

    That's weird; the last newspaper headline I saw was something like "Mubarak says he won't leave." Maybe it will be different today.

  • Ingrid
    13 years ago

    Http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/201121125158705862.html

    The hard core protesters will stay at the Tahrir square until the new government is installed..and who could blame them?

  • The Princess
    13 years ago

    Thanks everyone.

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    ''That's weird; the last newspaper headline I saw was something like "Mubarak says he won't leave." Maybe it will be different today.''

    Sib, your media must have been watching and reading our ''national'' news and media! xD especially the first and second channel.

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    Billy Rob, thank you, but concerning your concerns, if you ever been here you'll know that there is no way Egypt can turn into Iran, at least the Iran you guys imagine, we're the complete opposite be it in life, in style or in laws. it can't happen. you need another country and people for that, different systems and laws, not to mention that even when it comes to religion we, Egyptians, are sunni and they, Iranians, are shia. very different scholars.

    even IF the Muslim brotherhood someday happened to rule, though it won't happen anytime soon because most people feel uncomfortable about them as well, we won't be Iran. our Muslim brotherhood are very liberal in comparison with what you have in mind or what they tell you and us as well. they just look and dress a little different/modest, that's all, however they are very well educated and surprisingly open minded, although conservative. they don't want to force anyone to do anything, as I said, they want and are very impressed with Turkey as an example. oh and they have very active women as well on the political and social level, never mind their name!

    women in the MB:
    http://www.ikhwanweb.com/articles.php?pid=10096

    MB congratulating/welcoming a woman:
    http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=18881

    This is interesting as well:
    http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=27610

    I'm not saying there are good or bad, just that they are misunderstood, different maybe, but aren't we all? they just want their right to practice an active political role that's all, no matter what their believes or religion is, in the end it's us voting and what's between us and them is their program, which is more civil than religious if any.

  • Narphangu
    13 years ago

    That is scary, isn't it, how in the midst of celebration, so much violence can take place. I hope she's alright. Unfortunate to have such a publicized negative act mar the magnitude of this event.

  • The Princess
    13 years ago

    Billy, I don't know the full story, would you please link me?

    she couldn't have been anywhere around us when that happened, but shamefully enough all reporters from all foreign channels, arabic like Al Jazeerah or not, have been victims to some of the cruelest acts, some were stabbed, some were hit on the head, some were imprisoned and others violated or harassed, however it was in no way ''us'' who did that, it was people the government set on us to cause chaos and drive all reporters away, after taking their cams and tapes, of course, and scaring them to death. and also of course, drive the protesters themselves away.

    we warned everyone to stay in large groups and we warned that some outlaws were free from prisons, the guys/men made chains around us and blocked every way to al tahrir square just in case. we even made groups to accompany those who wanted to leave for safety measures, since some were attacked while wanting to join before they could reach us or anywhere close to us and others were attacked after they left us and were on their way home, the streets weren't safe. and we made that clear, we warned people as well that no one should come close to the pro-Mubarak supports because it was known that most of them were the police out of uniform and some hired people, not to mention that they had weapons on them, but of course, reporters go after the story wherever it is. although, we did really advice reporters and foreigners plenty to leave for fear of their own safety, not that would ever excuse or justify what's happened to her.

    we were really peaceful, really, we even made sure no one carried a stick since we fetched everyone going in and out. The people were very respectful, although we were like millions and from all walks of life, I stood there the whole time (and I don't look or dress anywhere near Egyptian), no one said a word to me, let alone harass me.

    I'm very sorry to hear what she's been through, though, and here. No one should ever go through anything like that. I'm glad there were people around to help her.

    I hope they catch everyone who violated her as well, as long as other gangs, outlaws and the people who gave orders of such. this is truly heart breaking.

  • Sean
    13 years ago

    I wish the very best for all people who want fairer, repersentative states and actually have the gaul too stand up against regimes which use disgusting tactics against them.

    I also wish that the western nations shut the **** up and stop trying too create and use peoples fears of Islam; the media is constantly creating a 'us' and 'them' attitude - to what purpose, i don't know. Religion is being portrayed as one of the driving factors of what's still going in the middle east when it's simply people demanding the very fundemental rights we are meant to support.

  • Sunshine
    13 years ago

    Sean I adore your attitude my friend ..

    can I (Y) like that post XD

  • The Princess
    13 years ago

    Billy Rob, thank you, I've been reading about this and I don't want to sound nasty but every version of the story I read was different. Some said she wasn't raped. Others said she was raped. Some said she was missing for an hour. Others said for 20-30 minutes. not to mention the holes, missing info and (I'm sorry) the unbelievable ones.

    I'm not saying this didn't happen but I'm sure it couldn't have happened the way those articles say it did.

    but let me show you something before explaining, ok? This is the square and the people, and that picture is was taken at morning, at evening more people come and after Mubarak resigned even more joined the celebrations.. you can see even on the left side people still joining.

    http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181574_1294780826958_1753464606_527998_2696745_n.jpg

    http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/184336_1294772986762_1753464606_527976_7661154_n.jpg

    first, there is no way 200 people (which I have no idea how they counted them) could have moved freely, actually it was hard for three people to move together freely. let alone 200!

    second, look at the picture in the article you posted which, to me understanding, is supposed to have been taken a few seconds before the attack/separation? do you see anyone even looking at her? they're all looking at the cam or somewhere else. do you even see any women around her? and how in the world can a group of women pulled in between the 200 men and how did they even know a lady was in there being attacked? I mean her crew themselves couldn't get in or find her and there is no way she would have been far from them!

    third, if 200 people had attacked her and she was lucky enough to have escaped them alive, do you think she wouldn't still be one piece? I mean 200 people attacking one woman for 30 minutes? and worse, an angry mob? hello? even more so, do you think she wouldn't have at least been rushed to a hospital here? not fly all the way back to america first? and how long did she stay in the hospital there? any idea?

    fourth, evidence. there were cameras everywhere, even people with phones were taking pictures and videos, but lets say pretend incident escaped all that, which it couldn't have, but lets just pretend it did. how come when they found here, they didn't take pictures as evidence of the state she was in? even a picture of a the beatings/injuries/bruises... anything? how come she didn't file any sort of law suit here? how come none of the 20 soldiers said anything about the incident?

    fifth, for the soldiers to take here out to the tanks (which is no easy task and takes time) and to question here and see her ID/passport and to find her crew between all those people and take them out to where she is as well, it would take much time. if the 20-30 minutes is true, then she couldn't have been in there alone more than five minutes.

    The story is not rational, Billy, at least not the way it is told until now.

    the interesting part however is, that I read someone saying in an arabic news website, that what happened wasn't at all what's being said, that person said that all what happened is the following: some people said Lara Logan was an Israeli (a jew) and the of course the rumor spread and everything happened so fast. People where pushing each other to see what's happening, some were asking if she's indeed an Israeli and what's she's doing here, some were screaming, others where trying to protect her by pushing in to hold people back. That person also said that she couldn't have suffered more than being pushed and pulled or being held (since everyone was squeezed into place and you couldn't really move without colliding into someone) and light headiness and a sense of suffocating because of the crowds, which that person did suffer from as well, and of course she must have been scared to death.. but nothing more. it was also said that in between this a soldier or two (not twenty) came and got her. sadly, no group of women =[ just groups of people. which makes me think, how come they didn't shoot/video with the ladies and soldiers? and how wasn't even just one of the 200 attackers caught? just one?

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    Sean, can I hug you?