Athiests are more moral than religious people..

Apparently..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-do-americans-still-dislike-atheists/2011/02/18/AFqgnwGF_story.html

Well i mean, its statistical, its not going to fit every atheist and every theist 100% of the time.

and morality is completely relative, it just depends on how you define it. if morality is paying tithes and worshipping a god then atheists are pretty well screwed. if morality is not beating your kids then id say atheists are not as inherently evil as some people would depict.

its relative.

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Its too relative that there are a lot of schools of ethical thought you must first choose from.

There's Utilitarianism, Consequentialism, Deontology, Hedonism, and not to mention the whole law of ethics written in religious texts (whatever religion that is)

You must first define which of the schools you are talking about. I mean if your using the framework of Hedonism, then by all means Charlie Sheen might be moral.

I pretty much don't care. What you do is your own business. If you ask where I fall, I'd say under none except my own principles. It doesn't work well when it comes to social activity where you are bound by whatever rules the culture you are in is, but then there's moral psychology to compensate for that. I first know what I desire, see the appropriate (by law) means to achieve it whether I agree or not, then follow the rules and satisfy that desire.

Like I said in the other thread, touching something that is relative doesn't work very well. Even if we stick to our own principles and argue formally and rationally, its either we are all wrong, or we are all right.

Hah, XYZ, you are almost a Possibilianist

Some of us do like to give a source every now and then lol

Atheism is a belief like baldness is a haircut.

yeah... but no... but... yeah....

I read a few about Possibilianism, TS, and it might seem I'm close. But I don't want to put myself in any category.

I'm just a living organism, living life. The existence of god is fairly an overrated topic, and a dead one in philosophy. The pragmatists, however, value more the effects of religion in practical cases. Because religion does play a role in molding a society filled with people who have their own beliefs. Beliefs are the root of one's action and to create a well functioning society, the head must maintain a collective agreement to beliefs. But I'm not saying I'm for or against it, its never easy to decide on such big topic without fetting some facts or variables straight first.

You must first define which of the schools you are talking about. I mean if your using the framework of Hedonism, then by all means Charlie Sheen might be moral.

Sooner or latter he will face three choices he can be sobered up, locked up, or covered up like Michael Jackson, it is just cold reality.

Everything depends on frame of reference. i think however that torture and child beating are fairly generally agreed upon as immoral...

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Best quote I've seen here in a long time.

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