Anonymous

  • TSI25
    13 years ago

    We've all heard about these Anonymous Hacktivists, attacking big banks, corporations, defending wiki leaks, attacking government websites in egypt, asia minor, etcetera. They are extremely powerful, when an electronic security firm tried to step up to them, anonymous took down their website, stole company emails, and forced the CEO to resign.

    honestly, my response is "About time." Some one needs to take a stand in the world today, and these guys are not violent. if i could help them, even just by offering storage space on my computer, i would do it in a heart beat. Hell, if i could donate money to their cause id do it.

    what do you guys think about them?

  • Kevin
    13 years ago

    I feel the same way I do about their activities as I would about a thief. If they are only stealing from and attacking big corportations, then fair game but when they do things that effect normal people who have nothing to do with the activities of the companies, then they are hurting the wrong group.

  • TSI25
    13 years ago

    Have they really attacked the normal people though? i mean they are supporting the "Occupy Wallstreet" movement openly, they want the empowerment of the people.

  • Britt
    13 years ago

    So a thief is a thief only when it's 'normal' people, but if they're stealing from someone/thing you don't deem 'normal', they aren't really stealing?

  • Kevin
    13 years ago

    They have attacked corporations which have then had to cancel their services to the general public. They might have noble ideals about stick it to the big companies, but in the short term at least it's the little people who get fucked over.

    And Britt, in the case of corporations who steal, lie and abuse their workers, share holders and customers on a daily basis...yeah, I don't care all that much if Anon do a number on them.

    Payback yo!

  • sibyllene
    13 years ago

    I'm with Kevin, I think. I'm all for Robin Hood and everything, but I don't get the feeling that Anon has a clearly-defined method and purpose. Part of me kind of secretly enjoys that they are making big, serious companies squirm, but really I don't know if they've totally thought through their actions. It seems like they do things because they can, and I think there is a danger that they will be messing with things that end up hurting everyone. Jury's out, I guess.

  • TSI25
    13 years ago

    Well the way anonymous works is theres an encrypted forum, not unlike this one. all the members pay attention to then ews, do research, whatever they want really until it occurs to them that some one deserves being made a target of anonymous, whoever has that inkling then writes a proposal as to why that should be the target.

    then whoever happens to be online over the next 12 hours or so upvote or downvote on that particular target based on the proposal. if they upvote, then their portion of aggresive software is networked with the other DDoS software, usually through a program called snake bite, and if enough people link, then the attack goes through. if not enough people link, then the attack will probably either be unsuccesful, or not happen at all.

    they dont have a leader, in fact, this is effectively direct democracy with a very fluid method of checks and balances. at least so far as i understand it.
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    i also think that the way things are, everyone is hurting anyway, and that if the people dont do SOMETHING then they are gonna suffer a whole lot more before it gets better. anonymous stands against oppression, and attacks campaigns against free speech. moreover its not that 1 or 2 people decide who and how to attack, its hundreds of people.

  • TSI25
    13 years ago

    ""According to Security News Daily, Anonymous has taken down more than 40 darknet-based child porn websites over the last week. Details of some of the hacks have been released via pastebin #OpDarknet, including personal details of some users of a site named 'Lolita City,' and DDoS tools that target Hidden Wiki and Freedom Hosting — alleged to be two of the biggest darknet sites hosting child porn."

    i seriously think these guys are worthy of some veneration and support.

  • Exostosis
    13 years ago

    Anonymous are doing what we cant physically do. A mere protest isnt entertained anymore. The big corporations and the government are misusing our faculties. We are deprived of rightful information. Yeah Aaron Barr had to resign. Anonymous also went on to take control of the company HbGary Federal's e-mails, dumping 68,000 e-mails from the system, erasing files, and taking down their phone system. The leaked emails revealed the reports and company presentations of other companies in computer security such as Endgame systems who promise high quality offensive software, advertising "subscriptions of $2,500,000 per year for access to 0day exploits".

    Anonymous's actions are justified by the inside information they are providing. Anyone who has any problem with the governance of the online world is an Anon. It is just an idea, there is no telling how many hacktivists are engaging in attacks, thus they are a legion.

    They indeed are worthy of support.

  • Selfrejected
    13 years ago

    Just a pet peeve of mine, "big corporations" don't exist without the force of government to back them with monopoly laws and such. They're one and the same. I have a problem with Anonymous attacking private business that has ZERO dealing with the government. Them monkey wrenching the corrupt disgusting thing people like to call democracy, I have no issue with.

  • dan
    13 years ago

    Annon took it upon themselves as do most if not all left wingies to be your saviors of negative thought and philosophies. They have even decided upon themselves that the tea party is so viemly th enemy of free speech that it wants to take that free speech away. Their reasoning is that, the tea party is filled with raciest elements and the enemy of mankind.
    As far as them taking down a few porn sites again it is a guise as there are millions and millions of porn sites and to claim as a wipe out of porn a mere 40 shows the mentality of Anon. Or in the very least what they think the mentality of their supporters are.
    Man was not made to sit around and let others dictate what is good and what is bad. Free thinkers are quite capable of deciding that for themselves. I f the supporters of such a dangerous group who are encouraged to hack away all that is perceived then there is a bigger problem awaiting the supporters of such.
    All the dictates and dastardly rulers came to power preaching the same ilk to the lesser thinkers in the world.
    Example: using the term Big business, Big corporations, Greedy Rich, is a ploy used through out history to gain control of the lesser masses. Sure there are greedy people, but the far reaching majority is not. Now it is easier to proclaim all the down turn in economy is because of greed when in fact it is because those in charge have made it impossible to function in a reasonable fashion. Big Businesses sell goods at an affordable price so the majority has access and they employ millions that have reasonably good lives because of willingness to sacrifice in order to provide there Ideas.
    Unfortunately the lesser thinkers can not for some reason perceive the real culprits and that is the rule makers. They are the ones in power who write the rules that destroy freedoms and are in position to put blame where it does not belong.
    Its too bad that small brains can not comprehend that for instance th down fall of our economy was embedded in the ruling power that gave away loans to those who could not pay them back, bundled them and put out in to a vast market these junk commodities. And when it came time for payoff the source of insurances ran out of funding and bankrupted the economy. But alas the perpetrators had an out to blame they were allowed by the media supporters and the majority defenders in th government used to pull the wool over the eyes of the lesser thinkers.
    Summing up to destroy a country and take over its lesser thinkers in order to control for th purpose of imposing a new class of ruling kings and queens your government and mine were allowed by deception to take everything freedom gave you and you are now made to think and witnessed by what I see on this site the lesser thinkers who believe a n organization like Anonymous who hack into and can eliminate all opposition and be supported by the lesser thinker as a good thing is in fact the most dangerous opposition to freedom mankind can think of.
    What will become of after your freedoms are completely gone the tool you will use to rid yourself of this controlling scourge to mankinds freedoms. Me? I would rather allow freedom of ALL thought in order to be able to at least adjust if bad happens.

  • dan
    13 years ago

    Forgive me for bumping this thread but I found it highly relevant.

    Discussing internet control. At this moment in time the United Nations is trying to implement control of the internet. There purpose is to control what is consistent with their agenda. Which is world dominance. If this were allowed to happen we have to keep in mind the voting majority of nations that belong to the United Nations with power over-ride are NON- democratic nation's .i.e. China, Cuba, Iran, Russia, Venezuela etc. each one despises freedom and free thinkers. Dictatorial nations have a 5 to 1 vote against the United States now.

    If you are a commie I suppose you will love this idea. If you are of or near voting age or even younger for that matter I would write your representatives about this subject and iterate your concerns and opposition to this despicable but typical UN crimes against humanity.

  • sibyllene
    13 years ago

    Well this just turned weird....