A Question

Is talking about other people in clubs, allowed?
And not just talking... but really massacring reputations!

Of course it's not allowed, dear, who is doing that?

It may be in poor taste, but I suppose talking about people is generally allowed. However, if there is a specific concern, maybe pass it onto the mods.

Lol well you very well know in ours, talking about others is a you'll be kicked out without a warning ;P unless it's me "mascaraing" someone :P, well, or...Larry :P

I think he/she/they know who he/she/they is/are...

lol sunshine :p ahaha

And Sib, yes, hopefully, I will pass that into mods.

I think clubs have the right to discuss whomever they choose. The point of the club is to have a bit more privacy and feel free to speak about what you normally wouldn't on the main boards. Unless this person was being seriously threatened I feel clubs should remain secretive as far as what they talk about and who they talk about. I feel it's up to the club managers as far as if it's allowed or not. They in my mind have the say when it comes to club stuff.

Lol LG

so a manager can allow her members to talk behind others' backs?

Well.. haha

HOORAY then, Miss Sunshine! You're the best manager ever! because she doesn't allow that.. And that's what clubs should be about!

How do you know what's being said in other clubs?

You are an assistant in Nana's club, and she just stated there is a rule about this in her specific club. So it leads me to believe you are talking about another club (it's pretty obvious). So are you hacking, or is someone breaking site rules and giving you information about whats being said in a club?

Britt I would like to know the answers to your questions.

PR has rules against talking about others in the club, members or just site members. No warnings, do it and you are out. A manager can control what happens in the club but not what people choose to do outside there.

LOL Britt, I wonder where did you bring this defensive tone from, hold your horses unless you're talking behind someone's back ? ! I only wanted to ask about this, for future concerns,and to avoid troubles. Should have asked it through a PM but well thought to see others opinions!

Umm, then why did you say this:

" I think he/she/they know who he/she/they is/are...

lol sunshine :p ahaha

And Sib, yes, hopefully, I will pass that into mods."

If its a future concern, how do future people know who they are, and can you pass on future information..?

I'm not defensive at all. Merely asking questions no one else asked. Yes, I did discuss our little PM Convo with MM members and then this pops up, so I thought it was pretty funny timing, though I wouldn't say what was said is massacring any reputations.

Excuse my weak english britt
and my grammatical errors,,, I should have said:

I think he/she/they WOULD know who he/she/they is/are...

Ah, again we get the English isn't my first language excuse when you always write just fine in every other thread :)

Well, hope you got your answer for future concerns that will maybe happen..in the future.

I'm off to enjoy this beautiful fall day and shoot some targets! ;)

And what was said, exactly??

Ah, LP. What's said in a club stays in a club, remember?

LOL britt, seems like you feel threatened for a reason, for an instance you definitely ain't my target, haha hope I ain't yours ;)

and the language comment, was "sarcasm" think you're heard of that XD. Sarcasm cause though english is your 1st language it was very tough for you to understand that he/she blah.. know who they are, is just an example! We all know what we say for people and what we say behind their back!

HENCE he/she/they who do gossip (common sense for sure there are gossipers) know who they are.

Shortly, I was concerned how far are gossipers allowed to go, inside clubs. But for some reasons...you took it personal LOL.

Good luck shooting targets ;). TC

Yes, if someone inside my club is giving out information, I do take that personal, just as I do with the thought of someone hacking our club. MM is a close, family like group, who discuss things that go beyond our internet lives and into our personal lives. If someone is breaking the trust inside that club, I would ask our managers to kick that member out. I don't want to be friends and share information with people I cannot trust.

I think you're just making excuses LP.

Excuses for what JAcey ? lol Wow guys..what's going on..omg LOL...DEEP BREATHS !

Lol
Cou Drea...

I think my head is too big, in the sense of tiresome, for this conversation..

Anyway, sweet dreams, wildflower.

Wildflower? lol that's a good start..em

Well someone is obviously not so smart... tadadadada.... ;)

As acting manager of PR, I too want to know how you know what is going on in other clubs, what is being said. I want to know if clubs are being hacked, are people within clubs being gossips. Still haven't had any answers to these questions.

Alright, alright, this does not need to head where it's heading.

"I think clubs have the right to discuss whomever they choose. The point of the club is to have a bit more privacy and feel free to speak about what you normally wouldn't on the main boards. Unless this person was being seriously threatened I feel clubs should remain secretive as far as what they talk about and who they talk about. I feel it's up to the club managers as far as if it's allowed or not. They in my mind have the say when it comes to club stuff."

These are exactly my thoughts. Nobody has to justify what they've said or will say within their clubs' domains. I am sorry you, Britt, felt the need to defend yourself - you are not breaking or bending any PnQ rules.

LP, do be careful. This thread wreaks of club hacking, though you could be perfectly innocent.
Club hacking and sharing private information from within a club will result in penalties or suspension.

Hope everyone has their answers now.

Long live the Jane.

Yes, I had my answers... I think.

I just like how Mods can cool a thread which got tensed up by nonsense! :)

Go Jane.

"Yes, I had my answers... I think."

Anything you would like me to elaborate on? I will answer your questions gladly.

Not for now, Jane.

If I'd have any other concerns, I'll make sure to pm you, or any other mod.

As for now, it's cool.

Thanks again :)

"so a manager can allow her members to talk behind others' backs?"

Are we back in public school? Why should a manager not allow people to speak their minds in their PRIVATE CLUBS!?! I agree with what Britt has said. Has someone threatened your life or someone elses? What do you know about what's being said in other club, since obviously your club doesn't allow member chatter? Who's sharing this information with you? If you can't handle what others have to say about you or about others it's time to thicken that skin. Not everyone will like eachother and not everyone is ok with voicing that to the person. I on the other hand have no qualms with telling a person who I feel. But that is not everyone and others take the passive agressive aaproach. Why should they not feel some kind of saftey in what they say with their family? I see clubs as families, a close group of friends that shoot the shit and sometimes get out frustrations be it with this site or daily life. Does that mean club assistants should disallow talking about anyone period?

Also you said this apparent club manager who allows such talk was a 'she'... just saying. You may have outted yourself my friend.

Illogical nonsense. Nano may I ask why you feel it's not ok to speak about others in PRIVATE? I'm sure you're guilty of a private conversation or two about other members of this site or people in your life. I'd like to know a person who isn't guilty of going to a friend or a group of friends to vent frustration about a particular individual. Why should what you say in 'private' (I use that term very loosely on this site as it seems some lack morals.) be censored or feel like you can't be honest to those you know well and feel comfortable with?

This is wildly suspicious. That's all I'm going to say on the matter.

The rules are very clear:

"Site and Forum Rules - Please Read
"5. What's said in a club, stays in a club. Sharing links/information and 'hacking' into another club or the PM system will not be tolerated and will result in suspension. If there is an issue or you need something handled that cannot be handled within the club, message a mod. ...
"16. You may only be a member of one club. ...
"17. Club managers may deny you membership or cancel your membership without explanation. Please do not harass club managers."

These are about the only rules about clubs relevant to this thread.

So the basic answers are:

Yes, members in a club may discuss anyone and the content of that club's conversations are not allowed to be disclosed outside that club.

There MUST be no hacking of a club.

Any club shall police itself by its own standards, not subject to interference by the mods unless requested by the managers of that club.

If someone's reputation is harmed within a club, but it does not carry over to the main forums, then whatever responsibility exists lies solely within the club.

For example, if anyone badmouths me in any club other than LTFR, that's their business, not mine. If it's within LTFR or on the main forums, well, I'm Irish, so my skin is as thick as Guiness Stout.

If you just send me withered Petunias and Yellow Carnations, I get the message.
;-)

Lol
LG

If you have read the 234234234 posts above, you would have got what was said... and resolved.

And if 'She' is important to you... then yes, most of the club managers are a SHE!

Nana
Nano
Melpomene
The Queen

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lol

How odd that some clubs ban talk about other people. To me, a major point of a family or best friend is having someone to confide in. I suppose it gets harder to manage in larger and looser clubs, but in TC it's certainly not an issue. Complete freedom of speech, baby.

LP, your posts are so sus, they're pretty amusing.

Hey, hey, hey!

Come on, PnQers, stop it, okay! we don't want dramas! It was me who used to cause drama now, STOP!

Aboudi, nobody would DARE to talk about you as long as I'm a member on here lol, and if they are now, then pass their issues to the mod instead of opening a thread, lol...because I feel lost..haha totally!

NOW....you all SHHHHH, we don't want drama anymore,

UNDERSTOOD?

good!

Blegh ;P

EDITED: LG, were you addressing me? I saw my name somewhere in your lengthy post? lol, if it was about me then tell me maybe I can solve your problem, lol. ;)

BUT I SWEAR I AM INNOCENT, LOL.

Sus indeed.

Like I said in M&M (In privacy I hope) I'm not going to chastise a member and send them to their bedroom if they decide to voice their opinion about someone or something. I too find it interesting that some clubs don't allow other members to speak about certain things, but each to their own.

Secondly, I'm mainly posting to say I'm only "co-manager" of M&M, Luanne started it. I'm more of a show pony who sits pretty, the wildcats of M&M control the club lol.

Luanne, you, or my uncle Sam.... what-so-ever.

I think Jane ended our conversations that seem they won't end.

I GOT what I wanted to know.. let's just stop posting.
lmao

Noura.. hahahah :p

Really mate, I don't appreciate the attitude. One shouldn't begin such threads if they don't like others responses.

L.Grace I think you meant Nana ? if you meant me then I didn't mean in private I was referring to the rule in my club...

in all cases, same reply for Abby and Melissa;

Nothing here is private anymore, most of the members know how to hack, I do not know if they do hack, but I am certain that at least two of those who posted here told me personally that they do know HOW. Hence this "home" the club thing is not private.

LTFR is indeed a home, we are very close, like very very close and not once did I witness drama there, not because I send them to their bedrooms lol nor cause I have a kick you out rule, it's not in that manner either I was just being random over here. to be precise the rule in my club says NO "gossiping", and if someone has an issue with someone outside the club, better send me a pm, or anyone else.

Yes I do not want people talking in a bad way about others, you see it odd or not "healthy" I see it respectful because I do not want people voicing their "odd" opinions about me with their fellows without me knowing why, and how.

If you dislike me, then say it to my face, you are free to talk behind my back, but who wants to talk behind others back, my club is the wrong place. And that's not banning, that's focusing on better things in the club.

We do have personal threads to rant about our lives and anything that's bothering us, but stuff involving other members who might probably read what's being said about them, cause as I said I do know very well most of the members have the abilities to hack, that's a no no.. OFcourse if I am hackiing (for example) it is my problem to come in, hack and read bad stuff said about me, because it's not my right in the 1st place! BUT that doesn't mean it is just fine for others to gossip with other members, when i am sure you aren't being honest with that person about it.

Clubs are made, managers are there to set their own rules, if members do not feel comf, they do leave, not like clubs have nothing else to do but voice their opinions about people, if it's a praise share it, if it's harassing. disrespecting, hurting, then yes sorry go let them know, but do not discuss it with others in my club, it's very silly in my opinion and childish. That's how how I was raised, and for sure not how i want to be treated. Maybe odd as was mentioned, but that's me! And I believe it teaches selfcontrol and self-discipline. :)

Melpomene.... I love your responses,, but it's just that Jane ended it... and you're coming again, dear, to start that from the beginning.??

All the responses were appreciated, before.

Let's just talk about how clubs are important to a PnQ'er..

and how we should praise others, not disrespect them.. well, if you feel like that :p