Daily Sip - One day late for Valentine's Day...

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    I carry your heart with me (i carry it in
    my heart) i am never without it (anywhere
    i go you go, my dear; and whatever is done
    by only me is your doing, my darling)
    i fear
    no fate (for you are my fate, my sweet) i want
    no world (for beautiful you are my world, my true)
    and it's you are whatever a moon has always meant
    and whatever a sun will always sing is you

    here is the deepest secret nobody knows
    (here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
    and the sky of the sky of a tree called life; which grows
    higher than the soul can hope or mind can hide)
    and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

    i carry your heart (i carry it in my heart)

    -e.e. cummings

    -------------------

    Probably my favorite love poem. My fellow read it to me yesterday. I just about died.

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Sibs what a beautiful surprise. What wonderful way of showing love.

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    "you are whatever a moon has always meant." It's perfect.

    I made my first graders read some Cummings the other day... haha. Had to get my fix, somehow.

  • Yakari Gabriel
    12 years ago

    Waw, that's poem is all over tumblr all the time

    Its too beautiful<3

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    E.e.cummings is a great writer.

  • Decayed
    12 years ago

    Sib you a teacher?

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    Not a classroom teacher. I work on reading in an elementary school with small groups of kids. My first graders are pretty gifted as far as reading goes, so we can do some more challenging stuff like poetry.

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Have you ever read Paulo Freire?

  • Decayed
    12 years ago

    It's fun to work with youngsters. I think they know more than we do... Last month, I worked with grade 4 students on a project. It was fun!

    Oh, and btw, a great poem.

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    Not that I know of! What's it like?

  • Decayed
    12 years ago

    Smart, ha.. I'll tell you. It's like working with funny pirates. They just get drunk and move crazily. FUN!

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    Whoops, my last post was to Karla's.

    "It's fun to work with youngsters. I think they know more than we do..."

    They sure keep you on your toes! It's pretty amazing, actually, how naturally young kids pick up on poetry. They just respond so well to it. I keep hoping that maybe if they like it so much now, they'll enjoy it again when they do it school at a later age. And when they're teenagers and everything sucks, maybe they'll lean on it like so many do.

  • Decayed
    12 years ago

    'Whoops, my last post was to Karla's.'
    My intuition was in its place.. haha

    Poetry is useless though. In the real life, I mean.

  • Yakari Gabriel
    12 years ago

    " And when they're teenagers and everything sucks, maybe they'll lean on it like so many do."

    [turns ghetto]

    PREACH THAT LIL MAMA!!! TESTIFY!..

    I swear that post made me wanna hug ya!
    hahahahaha.

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    He wrote

    "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral."

    Paulo Freire is the author of the Pedagogy of the Oppressed.

    I love him.

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Some hang and make us ashamed of their behaviour.You right Sibs.

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    "Poetry is useless though. In the real life, I mean."

    No way! I mean, maybe you can't get a job with it or anything, but I've got to believe that the life of the mind exists, and that it's important. There's more to people than just what they do or eat or work at. Poetry taps into the emotions, the intelligence, the hopes... those things that makes all the other facts of life more worth living. I know poetry doesn't feed people or build cities, but I can't believe that it's useless.

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Poetry is the only tool to wide horizons. It will never be useless.

  • silvershoes
    12 years ago

    Didn't like this poem when I first read it some time ago, but I've read it many times throughout the years by chance, and it's definitely grown on me.

    Hope you all had a nice Valentine's Day?

  • Melpomene
    12 years ago

    Ah I love this piece.

    Narph sent me a book on e.e cummings for Christmas! I've always enjoyed his writing but I was surprised to discover that he draws amazingly too.

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    It would be fun to see some drawings... : )

  • Chelsey
    12 years ago

    Soooo this is ironic...I made a customized journal for my boyfriend from papercoterie.com...u can put ur pic on it, its hard covered. Its so cool for only 15 dollars.

    Anywayyssss. In it I put all the poems I've wrote for him, but on the first page I wrote a poem by e.e.cummings called I carry your heart

    I love love love this poem..its incredibly beautiful !!

  • Melpomene
    12 years ago

    It's hard to find his visual art work on the internet, a lot of it has been reproduced it seems.

    Here's one from the book:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p1fDpt0cNCI/Sra3uezgShI/AAAAAAAAAb0/EONsORQ1M5M/s1600-h/e.e.cummings+charcoal+sketch

    I'm trying to find the pencil sketch he did of Rebecca H. Cummings, it's lovely.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Great poem Sibs

    "Poetry is useless though. In the real life, I mean."

    Not to be disrespectful or start another fight, but i cant let this comment go without some further discussion.

    Poetry helps give meaning to my life its a part of who I am, a part I'm proud of and I would think this applies to most everybody else on here, but not you obviously

    It makes me wonder why you are on this site?

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Nicko, he is a teen. Some concepts are still forming. Be patient.

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    Lovely picture, Mel. Those dang multi-talented people!

  • silvershoes
    12 years ago

    I think LP's point had a narrower scope than what's being interpreted by his remark.
    I agree that poetry is not useless, but maybe he meant it's useless in a different way? Like useless unless it's heeded?

    It will be interesting to read his explanation.

  • L
    12 years ago

    I think poetry is useless when no one undersand it.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    ^What of the author, is it useless to them..?

  • L
    12 years ago

    There you go, at least someone will understand it. And that's the author for sure. :)

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Useless? In my own profession a most nefarious statement was a poem, of sorts:

    "If the gloves don't fit
    you must acquit!"

    - Johnny Cochran

  • sibyllene
    12 years ago

    Haha, Larry. Sketchy!

    Yeah, I'm sure LP doesn't totally think poetry is useless, or else he wouldn't be here, writing so many heartfelt poems. I think the liberal arts student in me just gasped and had to flutter around for a bit. I feel like we're living in a time in America where any career that isn't science or engineering or business or something is deemed as "not useful." People look at kids going for Literature majors with a mix of scorn, pity, and bewilderment.

    So here I am, a poetry-writing philosophy grad, and I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard "Oh... so... what are you planning to do with that?"

    It's important! It is! That internal life is probably the most real thing I have going for me.

    (I'm not arguing against anyone's posts or anything, just feel compelled to throw it out there ;] )

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Sibs,
    You really have the right attitude, wrong latitude.

    The inner life is much easier to enjoy in the sun rather than while shoveling out under three feet of snow.

  • silvershoes
    12 years ago

    "^What of the author, is it useless to them..?"

    The man has a point ;)

    And Sib, I think you picked a major suited to you. With all that talent, kid, you could go places!

  • Jordan
    12 years ago

    Sibs: 1. Awesome choice. Cummings is a poetic king, and 2. I'm glad you are a phil. major. It's admirable that you took the time in your life to study things that enrich your mind rather than thinking about cash the whole way. Solidarity right here.

    LP: You must respond! I don't understand how a poet can think that poetry is useless!

    Larry: You always have such wise and useful comments to share. You're like PnQ's dad. Thumbs way up.

  • Melpomene
    12 years ago

    Not just America Sibs. I'm completing a Bachelor of Creative arts; major in Visual, minor in Digital&Design and my electives are all creative writing based.

    People always ask me what I'm going to do when I'm finished, they then like to inform me that it's difficult to make a living as an artist. I'm intending on completing a grad diploma in Education so that I feel secure and the design aspects are more sought after these days, but I'm studying it simply because I enjoy creating.

    In my opinion no poetry is useless, even if it's only a catharsis for the writer and never read by anyone else.

  • Hellon
    12 years ago

    Let's put a little humour and love (of a certain standard) back into this thread. Sibs..beautiful poem BTW...and your bloke read it to you?...how romantic. Now for the scottish version...anything you don't understand please ask but...I think you will all get the drift...

    A Scottish Love Poem

    (Who said Scottish guy's aren't romantic?) almost everyone!

    A' coorse ah love ye darlin' Ye're a bloody tap notch burd.

    An' when ah say ye're gorgeous Ah mean iv'ry single word.

    So yer bum is oan the big side Ah don't mind a bit o flab.

    It means that whin ah'm ready There's somethin' therr tae grab.

    So yer belly isny flat nae merr Ah tell ye, ah don't cerr.

    So long as when ah cuddle ye I cin get mah erms roon' therr.

    Nae wummin wha is your age Hiz nice roon' perky breasts.

    They jist gave in tae gravity Bit ah know ye did yer best.

    Ah'm tellin ye the truth noo Ah nivir tell ye lies.

    Ah think its very sexy Thit ye've goat dimples oan yer thighs.

    Ah swerr oan mah grannies grave noo The moment thit we met.

    Ah thocht ye wiz as guid as Ah wiz ivir goanie get.

    Nae maitter whit ye look like Ah'll aywiz love ye dear.

    Noo shut up while the fitba's oan An' fetch anither beer

  • Melpomene
    12 years ago

    Lol! I'll admit I paused a couple of times with a confused frown but I eventually got through it. Thanks for the giggle Hellon!

  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Since HelLon wants some standard in this thread, here is my contribuition:

    The famous, or infamous, "uselessness" of aesthetic works needs to be recalled here. A poetical work is useless only in a very specific sense. We sometimes say that poems aren't made to make something happen, or that--whatever the writer's initial intentions--in fact they "make nothing happen", as a famous poet famously said. But of course we know that neither of those commonplaces is entirely true. Satirists regularly write to make something happen, and many writers by their writings create very specific real-world happenings, sometimes deliberately (as in the case of Swinburne's Poems and Ballads (1866), which generated just the kind of controversy he anticipated), sometimes inadvertently (as in the case of the lawsuits that followed the publication of Don Juan and Ulysses).

    SO....

    Still, the idea that poetry is useless is useful. It reminds us that we cannot measure the poetic outcome in terms of a set of specific intentions, whether conscious or otherwise, whether author's or readers'. Intentionality pervades the poetic space, but its specific character or status waits upon the reader's share in the interpretive exchange. You cannot have meaning without an intention for meaning. The self-subsistent "poem itself", so cultivated in the twentieth-century, is riven with autotelic purpose and intentionality. A poem's usefulness is therefore traditionally measured by its reception histories, which record the mutations it has undertaken and undergone over time.

    source:http://www.litencyc.com/theliterarymagazine/ivanhoeinterface.php

  • Sunshine
    12 years ago

    Oh sib! this is my all the time favorite love poem, 1st time I heard about it, was while watching a movie...perhaps Ps I love you, or something else.. I am not sure XD

    Still, I love this piece to death.