Anna Stephens
12 years ago
As the days go by, it is becoming more and more obvious that it is not possible for members, acting in their own behalf, to make the slightest dent in the activities of Yunes Ramahi (aka gooftastic). Dealing with individual poets with regard to individual poems is something completely non-threatening to him. If fact, I suspect it is a part of his "game" that he relishes. |
Lioness
12 years ago
Thanks for that info and I totally agree with what you are saying. This guy gets me angry and I have every right to be angry at him. |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
The problem is that for every poem that Google takes down without shutting him down, he just steals five more. There are steps that can be taken that will convince Google to ban him from everything he has on Google+. Otherwise we're all just spitting in the ocean thinking we can raise the tide. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
(Edited and expanded upon) |
Clown
12 years ago
JK, but really, if theres anything anyone of us can do that besides bitch at him or bitch about him, personaly Im game, Ill back anybody up on this |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
Have all the plagiarized members sent a "Cease and desist" letter to Mr. Yunes Ramahi (aka gooftastic) at Yunes.ramahi@yahoo.com , which is generally the first step (but not required here, as he has multiple infringements to his credit). |
Decayed
12 years ago
I hate to say that we really can do nothing about that. One poem is deleted, 20 are uploaded instead. And if google shuts down his blog, he can still make zillion others... on wordpress.com .... blogspot.com .... any place! Who knows? |
Clown
12 years ago
I apologise for sounding immature earlier, I have a tendencie to try to make light of bad situations in order to keep from actually getting worked up and angry. These poems, art, pictures, ect. that he stole are the long hours many people stay up late to create then they use the internet to share their art with people, not to have other people claim it for themselves. I may not be a victim, but that dose not mean that I dont care about the people who are. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
All I can say is that I fully empathize with the two of you, in sharing your anger. Unfortunately, US laws do not make it any easier to prosecute or enforce on anyone, given the required notifcations, the right to free speech and all the other niceties there are for the rights of an accused. Everyone is assumed innocent unless he/she can be proven guilty, and there is always a "procedural" thing, which delays enforcement. No wonder this DMCA stuff is not easy to enforce on this guy, given the fact that Google has agreed to participate in "safe harbor" to avoid easy penalties and harassing lawsuits by people. And as LP said there is no guarantee either he will not resurface on another website carrying on the same racquet ...but one can periodically check for his reappearance using the Copyscape and Google tools (mentioned in other post), which by itself are search engines to search for plagiarism. To compound the issue he is in a country without an economic treaty with the US, so one cannot threaten him with economic/criminal penalties that exist here in the US. |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
I fear that I have failed to impress upon you nice folks the size and scope of the operation run by Yunes Ramahi. He began putting together his empire of shame in 2008 and has expanded it into what seems like every corner of the internet. Google? He's there. Yahoo? he's there. Bing? He's there. Go Daddy? He's there. There is no way that a handful of individual poets filing a few Cease and Desist Orders is going to impact him in any way. All he does is take down those poems, then steal 3 times as many. And he's making money on you, on me, on our friends and fellow poets!!!!! Not just nickels and dimes, people. He's making THOUSANDS of dollars!!!!! |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
"The ONLY way this can be solved is by someone with the authority to speak for this site and its members, the willingness to speak on our behalf....." |
Lu
12 years ago
I have a question that maybe someone can answer. |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
With all due respect LS, hearing your assessment of what the mods are or are not doing is not something I find particularly helpful or soothing. Nor do I find it appropriate for you to speak on their behalf. If they are simply ignoring the situation, or planning a strategy or, perhaps, already have put a plan into action, they need to speak for themselves. |
Britt
12 years ago
I agree, Anna. We need one representative such as Janis or a mod who can speak for us. This pig is making so much money off of us and unless the mods are talking behind the scenes, it seems no one in 'charge' really cares. |
Melpomene
12 years ago
When all of this started I brought up the idea of removing copy and paste in the mod forum. It's something I'm really hoping will be changed and it'll definitely stop a lot of poems being plagiarized from our site. The only con that is involved with this is when a member leaves a comment they will not be able to copy and paste or quote lines of the poem. I think that's a small price to pay for the safety of our work. |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
Now that wasn't so hard was it? LOL Thanks for the update Mel, I really appreciate it....as I'm sure we all do. |
Decayed
12 years ago
I suggest you remove the homepgae of this site when someone enters. instead, if someone wants to enter, he(she) should have a username and password. (believe me, when people see that they have to make an account to do something simple on any website, they quickly run away) |
sibyllene
12 years ago
Sorry I kind of dropped off the planet for a bit. It was my spring break last week, and I spent it flying out to two different grad schools (before Easter) to check them out. Now I'm back! It might be a bit spotty until next week, because I have to pick a school like... now... so I've been spending a bunch of free time researching. And I'm visiting another school this weekend. |
Sherry Lynn
12 years ago
Guys, |
Anna Stephens
12 years ago
Well, the little blood-sucker struck twice in the past 24 hours. Both poems stolen from the same author. I think our patience has been stretched just about as far as one should expect it could. Get our work back to us? Really? He has scattered it to the ends of the earth and while we sit here "being patient" he's continuing to steal our property, while his checks just get bigger and bigger and bigger. |
Britt
12 years ago
I think as long as someone comes out and at least states what's going on, like you all just did, we know the issue is being worked on and not ignored. I understand this has a lot of stuff you all will do that we can't and won't outwardly see, but communication with us who can't know all the details is nice :) |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
Until then, plagiarized individuals should at least consider reporting the copyright infringement on their poems individually, using this Google DMCA copyright infringement portal. |
Decayed
12 years ago
David; |
Maple Tree
12 years ago
I have been contacting links and websites, trying to get this guy removed, but so far I've heard nothing.... its getting very discouraging... I'm all for the No copy and paste, and I hope it gets implemented. |
sibyllene
12 years ago
Communication could have been better with you guys. Sorry. I think we just figured "well, nothing is happening, so there's nothing to update." In the future, we'll let you guys know what ideas we're throwing around. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
Abed: No embassy or Govt to contact. I do not think I mentioned that above. But, if you are concerned enough to bring him to the attention of authorities...it would be the Jordanian Govt. You will contact their local consulate in your country, as a concerned citizen of a neighboring country, to report him as a thief, since he is brazenly committing theft of your and others artwork. Here is a link to contact them in your country. |
Sylvia
12 years ago
Before doing anything with the copy paste feature it really needs to be thought out completely. There are writers who do not have hard copies nor computer copies of their poems and when suspended or when they want to close accounts, how would they copy their poems in order to keep them. (As a note the copy paste could be a feature of the Windows operating system and if it is, not sure Janis could do anything about it.) |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
Sibyllene & Sherry Lynn: I have to respectfully disagree with you on the responsibility that you folks have, as site moderators on waiting for Janis for the following reasons: |
HOLLY ARMER
12 years ago
I like the idea of removing the copy and paste feature. Could it be possible to still copy and paste within the edit feature of our own poems though? I think that would solve the issues with those that don't have copies of their own poems and still make posting poems on here easy. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
Per Abed's request above, I am posting a pre-formatted Copyright infringement letter to Google for those individuals who wish to submit it by fax/mail. This should only be used if you had difficulty completing the easy online Google DMCA form or did not get a response. This letter was formulated using language from sample letters, I found on various webpages, including those of 2 attorney websites: |
Larry Chamberlin
12 years ago
The sample letter by David is legally appropriate. You must send it by certified mail, return receipt requested (email notice to you by the US Postal Service will suffice). Keep a copy of what you send, attached your proof of mailing to the copy. Later, attach proof of delivery. Scan the entire demand letter & notices as a single document & have it ready. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
(Smile :) To be recognized by a legal authority! |
Larry Chamberlin
12 years ago
David, I did not confer a law degree. |
A lonely soul
12 years ago
^^ Law degree: I am not at all actively seeking it, but thank you for your consideration, though. :) I wouldn't pursue it in my afterlife. I rather be happy with my more vegan (humane) pursuits and trade. |
ddavidd
12 years ago
Isn't this awful to blame a guy who is punished enough, by being artless and so unable of creating them, yet recognizing them, loving, appreciating, them this much, this much? |