I have a question....comment.....thingy....

Hey guys

I have a thing and i dont know if its just me it bugs or whether others feel the same so im gonna throw it out there.....

Ok sooooo i want to know why others can praise a comment on my poems?

If i write a poem for say my son....or any poem that is very close to my heart.....i get annoyed that someone else can praise a comment on that poem.....in my opinion ......I should be the one to praise that comment....and if someone else does it then it annoys me because i WANT to be able to show MY appriciation for the comment and express what the said comment meant to me......so do you think i am right in my frustration or not?

I am aware that i can pm the person e.t.c but thats not the point, my poem....the comment is meant for me....so i should be the one to praise it right??

Your thought, that is if this post provokes one :-p

You know I've talked with you about this Ben and I don't like it either. For the EXACT same reasons you don't, and I just realized this was even possible a while ago when I comment in depth on your poem and mark praised it, I was like whhhhaaaaaat?? Lol

Maybe there's a legit reason others can praise, one that we don't understand...mods?? Explaiiinn please :)

I think the mods are sleeeeeping lol

I think you're right! Does that mean we can just dance around in here and have fun til we wake them up?? LET'S DO IT lo

Everyone can praise, so that wherever you're reading, you can bring our attention to a worthy comment. For example, there might be some people who never praise comments on their poems, so worthy comments might go unnoticed if the author were the only one allowed to praise them.

I definitely understand wanting to show your appreciation for a thoughtful comment. I'd suggest actually responding to their comment under their poem (this is pretty new! You didn't used to be able to do that) or sending them a PM to thank them. After all, members aren't notified when you praise one of their comments, and they don't see what you write when you are explaining why you think it's praiseworthy. Writing back might be a better way to let them know that you appreciate their thoughts.

Care to dance madam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rLz5AZBIA

Hmmm I guess it makes sense for those who never praise comments. So I guess the best thing to do is to PM the person and tell them to stop if you want to praise them yourself, since you don't fall into that category as a non-praiser.

P.s lmaooo love that song, now I totally want to dance

:B-(

What's all this caterwauling? Are you two jumping on the beds AGAIN!

The site is programmed this way so that praiseworthy comments are not ignored even if the poet does not care. It's your poem, but it's someone else's comment. Let the "offender" know by PM & I doubt they'll do it twice.

EDIT: Sibs already got it while I was typing.

Hey sib thankyou for explaining.....but it seems a little backwards to me, surely the author of the poem should be the one able to do this and anybody else should be the one writing the pm or commenting underneath, it happened on a few of mine and i actually was surprised how much it upset me, im not the sort of guy who does get upset over silly things....

To me it feels a little invasive and doesnt sit right with me but like i say thankyou for explaining x

Lol we havent reLly spoke larry but you always make me chuckle hehehe

Larry, would I be doing anything else other then jumping on the bed? BEN STARTED IT!

One silly monkey jumpin on the bed, one fell off and bumped his head...

Hehehe

Shhhhhhh chels uour such a tell tale!!

Larry dont listen to her!!!!! She's a poo poo head!!!!

I hold my hands up ........ I have praised other peoples comments, I have also had my comments praised by someone other than the author....HOWEVER I will not praise another persons comment until I have checked that the author has been on line at least 2 days after the comment was made. Therefore the author has had a chance to praise but has ignored it or not bothered to praise.

I can understand where you are coming from NM but the other side of the coin is this, You read a poem and think, 'this deserves better than a "well done" or Loved it "' so you go in deep and write an essay on why you liked it, what message you thought the author was portraying etc......then after a good 20mins of your time.... you hear nothing back, not a thanks, then somebody else reads this authors poem a few days later, looks at your comment and thinks "why the hell hasn't this been praised?" so praises it for you.

I agree with Sib... some praise-worthy comments go unnoticed/un-praised probably intentionally, or not...

So, I don't see anything in praising comments on other poems. You can thank people for the comments by PM. They can see that, while if you praise and stay silent, they might not.

Hey darren!!

I do agree to a point with you on that, when you spend so much time on a comment it is frustrating not to get it praise i suppose buuuuut that person can just as easily pm the commenter...i do see bith sides of this coin but it happened to me on a lot of poems not long after the comment was made and on poems that were SO SO special to me it really annoyed me......its a shame the site cant be programmed to say if a comment hasnt been praised by its author after a week then its open for anyone to praise.

And i think its good of you that yiu give consideration to the author by checking when they were online last, top marks fir that one dude:-)

Ok I guess I'm seeing both points here....sometimes if someone leaves a comment and you have a busy week day, maybe a few and don't say thank you yet, then someone praises it before you.

Not all of us can get on every day and ben I notice the people who praise comments on your poems, is like the same day! So its like if you don't have the time in 1 day someone jumps to it before you. That's really annoying. Just PM them, so it will stop.

Because I also kind of like the idea of being able to do that , although I never do, just for those people who never praise. It helps out the person and shows at least someone appreciates their comment.

I wish there was an option to where no one could see the comment until the author has read it. OR if comments do get praised, it still shows up as an unread comment to the author of the poem - as it stands now it shows it's been read, so sometimes you miss comments on your poem.

It's hard for me to praise comments on my phone, it just won't go through correctly, so I try to remember to do them when I get to a computer, but sometimes I forget. So it's nice to have people follow up and praise them so the writer of the comment gets acknowledgment that way.

Just needs some revisions I think.

I agree.
However, Janis has stated that the issue involves a great deal of programming, but I'm not sure how much that really means. He definitely put it on a back burner.

I liked Hellon's idea that no one should be able to praise it until after the author signs on.
After all, as soon as you sign on you are notified of new comments, so if you choose not to praise it then you no longer should have first dibs.
Problem with a mandatory waiting period is that comments by your faves only show up until others supersede them. Out of sight (off the first page of news) out of mind.

Hmm..

People have praised some of the comments given to me before, and that just tell me that they agree with that comment and that they find it praised worthy. ( Facebook kind of like option)

And also that tells me that whoever praised it, read my poem. And that they thought the same or similar to whoever wrote that Comment.

I just look at it this way:
Someone else praised it, they must have read my poem and the comment as well to have praised it ( also they don't gain anything from praising comments or do we? And I say we, because I also praise comments when I have the same thought as them, so I don't see the need to repeat the comment when I can just praise it and tell the author that I had the same thought)

Hmm... But you know, What might actually annoyed me is if I don't receive a notification that the poem has receive a comment.
Just because someone praised it. It used to happen, I'm not sure if it still does.

That's the only reason why I would be annoyed, but not at the one who praised the comment though lol. I would be annoyed at the glitch. That is if I ever realize that someone commented on my poem. :-s

Edit: oops, yeah, I also agree with Britt lol I'm too slow at typing.

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Enjoying the viewpoints.
So if my in-depth hard worked comment remained unpraised by the author for several months, can I recruit help from you Darren, Ben or Luce to review and see if it meets your Praise worthy criteria? haha. I know Luce and Abed have been very kind when they saw this happen in the past :), and some authors made fuss about it when it happened.
So what if it is the other way round in some of my best comments.........ignored by the author, for reasons unknown. Should I go and remove them? as they did not care at all...

I haven't read every post here. The way I see it, this site doesn't need any more rules. We run a pretty tight ship here.

I understand your problem, Naughtymouse...the fact that someone else can praise a comment on a poem that you might consider close your heart is a little strange. I think, though, that if the poem so personal to you that you feel this way, maybe you shouldn't post it here in the first place? This is a social network after all.

Well-said David & Jordan!

Hmmmmmm very interesting comments, i am pleased to provoke such a reaction....you know jordan...i have never looked at this site last like that before, as in a social networking site...

After reading the view points of people on here especially lonely and jordan, i think i have found the root of my frustration....it isnt so much the praising....its the timing, i had comments praised before i had even read them and that IS annoying. i think its about courtesy more than anything, in my opinion you shouldnt praise a comment before the author has had a chance to read it! As larry rightly says if you pass over the comment when you log on and dont praise it, it is acceptable for anyone to praise.....

Thankyou guys your aweeeeesome! :-)

I know what your saying here Ben...I had the same concern when this praised comment thing was first introduced....there was a frenzy back then when it was discovered that the easy way to senior membership status was to gain three praised comments...friends were praising each others comments just to gain this status in order to be able to nominate said friends. What really annoyed me was the time frame....I'd sign in and had not even had the chance to read a comment and decide if I wanted to praise it....someone else had already done it....back then...(and I'm not even sure about now) these members were not even reading the actual poem....I still see a lot of praised comments by members who do not leave their own comment on the poem so....yes I think you have a very valid point. As Larry has stated...back then...I suggested something along the lines of....members not being able to praise a comment until it was established that the author had, in fact read the comment themselves.

Hmmm im pretty sure Hellon is the only one that understood what he was saying...

Ben you shouldn't have to remove a personal poem, that's stupid, all poetry is deep and comes from emotion. That wasnt where his concern was. It was with the time frame like Hellon and I said, give it a day or maybe 3 depending on a busy week, come online and you see comments on your poetry have already been praised. Which is annoying when in fact, you want to say thank you for someone who was touched by a poem that means so much to you.

Clearly, there's nothing that can be done other than PM'ing the person and asking them to stop. Continue posting your work Ben, whether its personal and deep or not. :)

I will continue to praise other peoples comments... before you all boo here is why

Part of learning to be a better poet is not only to read poetry it is to also understand poetry. Some people on this site have a great understanding of poetry, their comments have made me sit back and go 'wow' Larry is one of them and I have recently praised one of his. Everlasting and xanthe are two others that imediately spring to mind.

However I will now make sure I do not praise a comment unless it is at least 2 weeks old.

That should be enough time for the author to praise it him/herself.

what do you think?

That seems totally fair Darren. :)

Darren that does seem totally fair i agree with chels on that :-)

And chels....you always get me eh? Xx

Thanks guys, to be honest I read my post again and I have come across all serious......

Probably because I am bored Sh*Tless

though not bored enough to google 'go-girl'

Go Darren! You have a unselfish spirit. Any volunteers?

Hmmm im pretty sure Hellon is the only one that understood what he was saying...
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Not sure what you mean here Chelsey...in your first response to Ben....the second post in this thread...you seemed to agree with him????

Darren...

I honestly think leaving it for two weeks is a little too long. All I was suggesting is...give the author of the poem the opportunity to read a comment left on their own poem and....if they have signed in and don't praise it and....you believe the comment is praiseworthy then...go for your life.

Either way....no matter who ends up praising the comment...I try to pm the member who left the comment thanking them for their time and discussing any queries they may have left because...after all..when you praise a comment the member never gets to read what you have said about this comment ...only the mods do.

And now..I'm in a strange situation once more and I'm not sure why...I've tried to praise two comments today...one by Naughtymouse and one by Nema but....they both bounced back at me...why? I'm going overseas on Tuesday so I will try to praise them again tomorrow but....if I don't get the chance and someone else does in my absence be sure to know...I do acknowledge them and give you my thanks!!!!

I do agree with Ben in the aspect of how annoying it is to check the next day after you write a poem and see its Ben praised by someone else...because I know the people who are doing this to Ben and I see how quickly its done. A day or two is simply not enough time for those like him who work long days and have a job or family that is very time consuming,

However after a mod explained why it is we can praise other comments, it makes sense for those people who never praise and comments go unnoticed. In bens case he wishes to praise, and isn't given enough time, which is frustrating. That's why I agree with Darren also, if you come across a comment that's praise worthy and notice its been a week or longer without being acknowledge, I can see why one would praise it.

A day or two is simply not enough time for those like him who work long days and have a job or family that is very time consuming

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He's signed in everyday that I've seen so....if you make allowances for the time differences...two days is plenty of time for him to decide whether he wants to praise or not wouldn't you agree?
*Edit

Anyway...Ben..you are signed in right now and I do not like speaking on a members behalf so perhaps you can speak for yourself?

So because one is logged in they have time?

I'm logged in all the time because of my phone and people will text me and say answer my PM! And I'm not even on the internet just forget to log out.

Sometimes I only check my pm's and not my comments yet, because if I don't have time to read and thank them, if I'm just checking between work breaks, I'll respond to a couple pm's and thread questions then have to go. Can't say the same for him, although I know he does get on for a few minutes at work as well, but I don't think checking for a quick minute or so is enough time to read all your comments and praise them especially being an assistant of a club and having other things to tend to.

Why don't you just let the guy answer for himself...

Because I can say what I want and stick up for someone I talk to EVERY day :)

Meanwhile the guy in question is signed in and saying...nothing...Oh yeah!

When you get right down to it the author should be given a chance to be the first to praise it, like i said before the person who wants to praise a comment on someone else's poem they should give a certain amount of repspect to that time frame i think it should be given more than two days , like chels said some of us have busy lives and alot of us check the site on our phones. my phone for whatever reason doesnt allow me to praise a comment so i might have to leave it another day or so until i get the chance to. for the majority of these comment ( i am speaking about my own here) they are directed directly at the author and so it does surprise me that someone else would leave it such a short period of time to jump in and praise it, further more it surprises me that they would want to praise a comment like that.

BTW my phone keeps me looged most of the time and so although it might appear that i am on here i am not , just like earlier hellon when you said you can see me online....i was actually in a meeting at work.

Hellon why are you so disrespectful about this and defensive, i have just signed in to read this, you ask chels to let " the guy" speak for himself but yet you talk on my behalf too....

Chels knows exactly how i feel about this as we have spoke about it on many occasions to act like you are is frankly childish.

i answer my pms on my phone and deal with challenges i am hosting in my club ( which in it's self is very time consuming) if i dont go ahead and praise a comment within two days instead of three what makes it ok for someone else to do if i havent had the chance to read it in full yet?

like i say people should respect that we dont all have time to read a comment and praise it straight away, they should give the qhuthor of the poem plenty of time to respond to it.....Two days is simply Not plenty of time.

Hang on a minute mate....this is what I said further up...

Anyway...Ben..you are signed in right now and I do not like speaking on a members behalf so perhaps you can speak for yourself?
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Can you see that?...I'm saying I do not like speaking on someone else's behalf and, yes I do suggest Chelsey should do likewise...funny how you don't say anything about Chelsey answering on your behalf....

Anyway..I'm disrespectful and defensive...did you just mean here?

Chels knows exactly how i feel about this as we have spoke about it on many occasions to act like you are is frankly childish.
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Do you speak about me? OMG..why waste your precious time talking about me?....I'm sure you have much more to talk about. in the little time you have?...