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  • Karla
    12 years ago

    Well, cast a circle and you have a sacred space.The oldest knew many things but they also knew that our place of worship is everywhere.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Larry a lot simplified to be honest, but the explanation of death has always scared the be-Jesus out of everybody since the year dot, hence mysticism and paganism and religion or whatever that has evolved to give explanation to life
    Hence why life, if there is death and vice versa

    Does life revolve around me or the sun as I'm the only one with consciousness

    and there's a lot more to that statement than meets the eye.. and would love for somebody to try and pick a hole in that argument

    I dare you...

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Interesting reversion. Of course we still have not progressed past Descartes in proving anything. However, I think we generally accept as a working premise that Freud's stages are more or less universal. As such the egocentric mentality grows through trial and tribulation to accept the benefits of deaying pleasure. Hence, in each person's life the sun is recentered outward.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Is that delaying or decaying..?

    The sun is a focus as opposed to the centre of mans inability to accept the futility of life and the fact that we are a bunch of carbon atoms that has been fused through circumstance as opposed to design

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    But now you digress.

    Your issue before was the relative center of life based on your sense of consciousness.

    Nihilism is a different matter altogether, one that cannot be refuted. Entropy as the end of the universe obviously provides no escape.

    Therefore, all we can do is carry on and like Camus' Sisyphus, laugh at the absurdity of existence,

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Laugh at the absurdity of existence No can't agree with that even though some would call it a mistake, Do you? I wasn't digressing at all it's all part of the bigger picture as much as the big bang is a crock of shit, there can be no centre of anything, no centre of infinity no beginning of time as time as we know doesn't exist, we are nothing more than by-products of molecular collision

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Absurdity of existence on second thoughts i like that

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    I'm not arguing with you about the extent of the cosmos or the finite existence we each have. However, you cannot live that existence, even if you can conceive of it. It basically is irrelevant.

    Of course, if there is a center other than local it is too big to have been detected yet. But that is not important. We revolve, spin and travel through the local system of the Milky Way, but we live in our own bodies.

    I have to laugh, not just at the absurdity of trying to feel important in this cold universe, but at the foolishness of even those who were considered the greatest minds of the 20th Century who claimed to have become profoundly depressed by Wittgenstein's revelations of a doomed universe.

    My explanation: so what? Whether you accept a god in your life or are absolutely enraged that others do, what is the ultimate issue? Let the universe go its own way and I will dance to the tunes I pick out of the maelstrom.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Yes I get you are not arguing with me, never thought you were
    I know it's more an extension of who you are and yes its irrelevant in our day to day existence though not to be ignored as to where we are from an our expectation as a species
    And the centre of the cosmos can never be detected which is always at the centre of me beliefs, if you get my drift. There can never be a centre never a beginning and never an end and time is only an interpretation

  • Jordan
    12 years ago

    Well we do know that there our solar system has a centre. We also know that our galaxy has a centre. So It's probable that each unit of space has something holding it together, isn't it?

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    No not at all why would you believe our solar system has a centre? thats only relevant to us, nothing else. the same as our galaxy, if such a term exists

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    On my way to court but. .. I believe what he means is that in a secular universe the relevance of a center is nonexistent. One place is the same as another because there is no ultimate meaning.

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Yes Larry that is basically what I'm saying, we are a transference of energy nothing more, here today gone tomorrow. In the greater scheme of things we might as well have never existed which brings us full circle, hence religion to give meaning to our very death

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Or. .. a macabre sense of humor

  • Nicko
    12 years ago

    Hahahah...well you gotta laugh about it at the end of the day... what else is there

  • Kevin
    12 years ago

    If the solar system has a shape, then it has a center. Pity the goalposts are constantly moving back leading to the eventual entropic heat death of all life..but, lets not let that get us down!

  • Michael D Nalley
    12 years ago

    May the force be with you

    http://youtu.be/YByqTYzeJww

    http://youtu.be/LHPqhTY6dh0

  • Jordan
    12 years ago

    I could be wrong, but I mean it is called the solar system because we revolve around the sun, is it not? Also, doesn't the milky way's supermassive black hole keep the galaxy suspended?

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Jordan means the circle will not be unbroken.
    Mike means the circle is the strongest force.
    Nicko means that we all come full circle on a meaningless trip.
    Larry says circle up & dance the cotton-eye Joe.

  • Larry Chamberlin
    12 years ago

    Good bye dear thwarted unnewly weds.
    goodbye to Jordan's gentleman's response.
    goodbye to Nicko's cosmic blues.
    goodbye to Michael's witty intercessions.
    Let's all go dance.
    The thread is now 100 weight.