Spelling is a must or the world will go to hell

I have a question to those who have authority within this site- I notice there are a lot of topics that are just clogging the message boards and are of little importance. Have you ever contemplated deleting the topics that are spelled incorrectly? It makes perfect sense. If a topic meant anything to someone they would check their spelling so they don't look like an idiot! People shouldn't just be adding topics left and right like that because they think their trivial little lives are important!

Nice. I'd make a banner and protest, But I have an allergy to protesters.

Seriously I think it's a great idea. Kids have no respect for language and this would help some.

You have your uses, mate.

Haha......

The only reason I can even remotely spell anything is because of JPM, and I am forever endebted because of it, lol. (honorable mention to Bret and Mr. Bob Shank as well ;) )

Anyway, I think that this is a good idea, but I dont think that they will implement it, it will put 90% of the people out of the forums.

I would like to get rid of A LOT of threads (like anything that hasn't been posted on for a month or more) I never suggested it in the main suggestion forum because I figured it would be met with: "WHAT!?!?!?! Delete all the old ones???" But maybe if there are enough people that agree, Janis will actually do it.

As for misspellings in the title of a thread, I think there should be a way you can edit that if you started it.

I agree with the deleting old topics idea. Such as the ones that were locked due to the overbounding stupidity, or cluttering of the forums. Maybe we could get rid of the ones here in the feedback section that have already been turned into realities within the site. Changing your password, for instance. That was a topic (several, actually) for awhile, and now it's a reality.

Oh, and once the chat's back, all those topics can go to...

~Ciao Lipton

Yeah, when there's a lot of obviously mispelt words and no punctuation, it makes thier point hard to follow because you spend so much time trying understand what they're saying.

Of course people are going to mispell words, but typin lik dis iz jus 2 muc dey barly sav ne keystroks while making demsefs luk stoopid.

Also, it's hard to read and annoying WhEn ThEy ThEy TyPe LiKe ThIs, WhY????? iTs MoRe WoRk. ItS a PaIn In ThE aSs.

Ugh. I think they should just delete any post that's written like either of those.

haha. well i can spell i think but i dont really use punctuation. and i might make typos. so would a post like this be deleted?

I don't like this idea. Deleting someones post because they have a problem with spelling is unfair. The main reason for this is that you never know whether it's lack of effort on their part or just the limit of their understanding.

If you could figure out some way to tell the difference with 100% accuracy, then maybe, but until then, bad call sister.

And yeah, what would Plain do?

you know when i saw the title i straight away thought - this one's by JustPlainMe LOL. spelling is important i think. i try my best to type correctly, but i do miss some mistakes out ... and some people may have what's it called ... dyslexia or something like that or might be too wee to know how to spell some words, heck i'm nearly 18 and still have trouble spelling immediatly ... so yeah ... unless the spelling is completely f'ed up then there's no problem ... but the people who write like this:

" i was gona go t vis fing an i dunt no wut t do vo cos i smel reli orribal .."

or something should be made illegal cos they're just annoying to read ....

(don't mean to offend anyone, unless i hate you HA)

Kaitlin.. indebted. *grins*

Make it a forum rule that everyone endeavours to use correct spelling and punctuation. That would be helping them to improve by making them help themselves.

well then it makes it more like school. dont do this to me!

No, I don't mean any post with just little errors. I mean the ones where they obviously didn't try and mispelt the words on purpose. Like 'u' 'b' 'ne1' ect.
Numbers aren't letters. Letters make words, numbers don't.

I definitly thought JustPlainMe started this when I saw the title...lol

okay anyway...Some people really can't spell so that's not fair for them! and I have to put "evry1" and short words like that in the titles sometimes if it's long because if we typed everything out the post title gets cut off and then you have half a word at the end and the rest is gone, and no one knows what you're talking about! Or sometimes I'm lazy, but hey it doesn't bother Everyone!

I like the suggestion about being able to go back and edit your title because I have needed that a lot of times...lol

and just for good measure...WHAT?!?!?! You can't delete the old posts! I go back and read those quite often. I go in the fun and humor section to find an old joke that I know was there, or for a school report I was doing I went and found the old post soemthing like "Media representations of Women" that was a while back, I use that stuff, or maybe just go back for a good laugh, don't delete it! And I think it's good to keep the old already accomplished topics in the Feedback section because that is the proof that a suggestion that is brought up is actually considered and sometimes put into place.

and like teens are gona spell lyke dis cuz it's just wat we do. it's our little shorthand code...it may be hard to read sometimes but I can get it most of the time and it does save a lot of time for some people, not neccesarily in keystrokes but that way they dont have to remember how to spell the actual words...even the simple ones are hard to remember sometimes!

well okay, just my thoughts
--Sierra Rae

well see i use a lot of that shortening words stuff too. like because. i say bcuz. so i think u should be able to do that. to a limit. so that people know wut ur saying. see i do that too. i use 'ur' and 'wut' but u still know wut im talking about. and then tHiS wHoLe ThInG sHoUlDnT bE aLlOwEd. JuSt BcUz ItS aNnOyInG. aNd HaRd To ReAd. AnD pOiNtLeSs.

Sierra, being a teen isn't an excuse for not being able to spell. I'm 14, and I can spell. Most of the people I know can type correctly because it isn't any harder than memorizing a whole new way to type every word.

Michelle, No it isn't an excuse and yes most of the teens on the site could spell correctly if they try but typing in shorthand is just faster to remember for some people and it's not as big of a deal if you mess up a word or two like that.

Mess up a word or two? How about every other word. I don't care if they do a little here and there, but the people who shorthand and/or sticky caps every other word... it's just too much.

It's harder to read, and it's harder for them to get a point across because everyone is too busy trying to understand each word to see the overall message.

They're a bunch of illiterate, lazy, moronic punks!

haha. YAY, thank you Ana!

A lot of teens spend their time on the internet. I know that for sure. And their lack of punctuation and grammar effects their learning habits.

Last year, I used to type in ebonics. And I would accidentally write like that in school. It became a habit, and I notice it in my friends writing at school too, who still write and type in ebonics. Ebonics also effects someones speaking skills, by the way they would pronounce and read in ebonics.

I know some people, teens in general, don't care. A lot of them say that it's just the internet, not school. But what they don't know is people also judge others on the way they type, speak and use their vocabulary. Someone most likely to type in ebonics on the internet in a instant messaging system, would be judged and criticized as an idiot, stupid and/or moron. I usually call people that who do type in ebonics. :)

Anyway, that mostly happens. So if you want to make yourself look like an idiot, especially on your first 'appearence,' then go ahead and type in your illiterate ways. I really do get annoyed by that.

Andriana, there must be something you don't much like about yourself, which you see reflected in others if such a small thing as they way someone types is enough to annoy you.

I mean really, yeah yeah people should make more of an effort to type properly, but mocking them and looking down from on high isn't exactly an inspiring way to effect change now is it?

Well then, just what IS an "inspiring way to effect change", Kevin?

I agree. But what I'm trying to say is that people who type like this:

ayy wussup? thiz iz annoyin meh ow koud ppl typ3 lyke thiz?

...Annoys me. And the first thing comes to my mind is; "Wow, they're a total idiot..."

I seriously see some people type like that. Not necessarily on here, but some are close to it.

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Well then, just what IS an "inspiring way to effect change", Kevin?

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Yes. What is an inspiring way to effect change? What is your idea and opinion?

Here's several other threads showing the huge amount of people this annoys. With this many people who are annoyed, or just plain hate, ebonics and sticky caps, why can't they try to do someting to cut back on it?

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=12585

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=163

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=11366

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=8519

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=2944

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=8244

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=3132

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=7881

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=7515

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=3780

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=3133

I have a suggestion, maybe we should have to spell check our posts and threads. We already do on our poems, so it's something the moderators (or whomever does it) could manage.

YEs, but Poe's changes were guiness. Changing you to 'u' isn't a new word, it's a new, annoying way of spelling a diiferent one.

We have to spell our poems correctly to submit them, why not our posts?

Yeah- Bob, I think you make a good point, but I also don’t think its relevant.

We are not restricting genius by demanding excellence (or at least growth) in the boards. The poetry can be in whatever language or slang people want, that is permitted, and that is where the real genius lies.

The only thing that I think we would be doing is hindering individuality. I do think that’s an important issue, I also think education comes into it, because not all people are naturally or educationally adept at using the English language as others.

What’s next, requiring that people use large words too? We cannot ask of people what they are not capable. Although it may be an irritant to the adults on the boards, or even just the more intellectually based people, most of the kids on these boards are KIDS, and they can relate to the slang, SpeLIn' Like DiSs, etc.

And Bret, your debt can be paid however and whenever,

even if it takes all night long, tiger... ;)

haha

"The poetry can be in whatever language or slang people want, that is permitted"

What now? When I submit a poem, it requires me to spell check, and will not accept my poem until it is for the most part, all spelt correcty and all profanity is gone.

"What’s next, requiring that people use large words too? We cannot ask of people what they are not capable." "I also think education comes into it, because not all people are naturally or educationally adept at using the English language as others. "

I'm sure they're all capable of spelling 'you', 'are', 'anyone', 'there', 'here', 'this' ect... These are words you learn fast, when you're young, and aren't difficult to spell. Also, with the spell check, they wouldn't need to be able to spell the words correctly, just close enough for the spell check to understand. Then it can go through and fix it as long as they just keep clicking 'change'.

About hindering individuality, is spelling incorrectly really a way to show that you're an individual? Can't they show that through what they say, instead of mispelling it to show that? I guess I don't understand how spelling out words such as 'you' and 'are' would be hindering thier individuality.

For the record it is SPELLED, not SPELT. :)

You can post poems in the slang section that are not filtered through the dictionary first. You can also write profanity in the slang section and the explicit section (I am very familiar...)

And the way people choose to speak and present themselves shows a lot about their individuality. I dont see why you are disputing that.

"For the record"..... (and this has been discussed before in some other thread)

Although it seems "spelled" is the more prefered spelling, "spelt" is acceptable too (check out the 2nd definition of "spelt" a www.merriamwebster.com)

The last time I have heard "spelt" used it was when I was talking to my 5 year old nephew.

Saucer of milk, table seventeen... meow!

I'm not saying you have to use it... I'm not saying I use it... just that technically, it IS acceptable.

It may be technically acceptable, but she lucked out. Normally a word like "spelt" would not be acceptable, and just like many words of history, it will fade out, because NO ONE uses that anymore (except my 5 year old nephew).

And I'm not trying to be JustPlainBitchy, Bret. Puuurrrrrr. See? Nice kitty. [resisting temptation to be "cutesy"... ;) ]

Lets focus here people, the only reasonable suggestion offered from this discussion is adding a spellchecker option for posts, with perhaps a preview as well, so people can see how it looks, and maybe, just maybe both these ideas could be combined.

Imagine this;

You type your post and hit next, you then get a preview with all the words the spellchecker is unsure of automatically marked so you have the option of improving your spelling by checking each issue against the online dictionary. Or, you can ignore the option and just send it on.

Or you can get burned by Plain.

Grammar and improper use of words will still be an issue (keeping JPM employed) but I think that's a great idea Kevbo.

i agree with kevin. but then people would just get into the habit of 'next send' instead of just 'send'. i dont think any1 would really pay attention to it.