New contest - Let the bribing begin

Anyone who participates will receive a detail comment from me on a poem of your choosing.

The comment will include:

What I like about the poem ( personal taste of course).
What I don't like about the poem and why.
My interpretation. ( I ll try to keep it short)
Perhaps, a series of random thoughts that may be influenced by your poem.
Possible suggestions on how to improve your poem. Of course, those would be for you to take into consideration not to take them to heart. ( suggestions will be given if I have any)

Alrighty, those participating let me know by pm as well as the poem you would like me to comment. If you don't feel like pming me or letting me know, then it's okay. I'll look around the contest and I'll see who participated. Then I'll pick whatever poem of yours that grabs my attention.

Here is the link to the contest:

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=142728

P.s. the comments will take sometime for me to write them but I will give the comment to everyone who participates.

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On a different topic but still adhering to the title. What do you think of Bribery? When is it a crime? How to distinguish it? How to abstain from being bribe? Is everything that influences our decisions bribing? Can I call the above a bribe or can I call it an incentive? What's the difference?

I hope people will join this contest. I don't have time to but best wishes

All bribes are incentives but not all incentives are bribes. A bribe primarily serves a second party, is based on an imbalance of power to manipulate behaviour, and often occurs under duress. An incentive is usually an unnegotiable reward that can be entirely self-driven and self-serving. A bribe is a crime when it allows actions that are illegal in that country, or when it is extortion.

I would say you are providing an incentive here, which can be interpreted as a mild bribe if it benefits you to have people participate in this person's contest (which already has its own incentives).

By the way, I love the "series of random thoughts" in the comments you give. They can be seriously random!

Yeah, what she said

All bribes are incentives but not all incentives are bribes.

^ Abby, you are awesome! this is fascinating. I didn't know the above was in relation to syllogism. Just like:

all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.
all senryu are haiku but not all haiku are senryu.

I kept thinking that your logic sounded so familiar. I didn't even know what syllogism was. You just opened a can of worms for me and I'm trying to get all those worms out, in hope that when I reach the end of the can, I may find a small note or something like a fortune cookie! if not, oh well, I can always use a can to plant a seed of some sort. May be I could plant a white rose that I could place outside my window to remind me everyday of what I should not forget.

Thank you!

I am most likely a "kant" ( due to my ego), saying that Kant thinks the imitation philosophy most often is taken as a real philosophy for real philosophy is hard work and not accessible while the first one looks so appealing and wow inspiring.
Here it is a categorical mistake: incentive and bribery, they do not have that connection; their connection is contingent. Bribery hardly could be incentive, because incentive is giving award to motivate the progress and induce the effort, but bribe is not in the category of AWARD and most often is to change the natural course of such effort or progress, in favour of another outcome. So it is not right to say: "All bribes are incentives but not all incentives are bribes" but there connection is more like:"" sometimes bribes are incentive _rarely_ and sometimes incentive are bribe"" there are no buts. The assumed Syllogism is a categorical mistake and emphatically different to :" all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares." or "all walnuts are round abut not all rounds are walnut"
there are no butterfly here abby but nice try. Once you where very good at making those butterflies ( if you remember ) but you neglected it due to the arrogant believe of: since you are good at it, you are done with it.

The reason of idiocy is that
idiocy is guarded with idiocy
often intelligently.

notice: I am not saying that you are idiot at all; you are the opposite of it. Though very often you are the intelligent guardian of it

Sir, do you know what I find so fascinating about that logic, whether be it a categorical mistake or not?

The coincidence... yet I don't believe in coincidences.

I was recently suggested to read about "dadaism." I semi- searched for info but as usual, I haven't fully understand it so I just unrelated myself from the topic for a little bit. However, after seeing a pattern in what Abby mentioned, I found syllogism. After searching for information about "syllogism," I found the poem " Colonial Syllogism" by Tristan Tzara, which is linked to dadaism. And afterward, I searched for other thing, I forgot what but I found one interesting quote by lewis caroll that I feel it's also related to logic. "Quote" that I've been searching for, I had so many windows opened in my browser that I lost it. -.- Anywho, that's what I find so fascinating. Dadaism that is, and connections, and logic, and words.

:)(::)(:

Wasn't trying to be philosophical, just going by my interpretation of "incentive" and "bribe". An incentive can be anything, positive or negative, that motivates/influences an action to achieve an outcome. This thing can be a prospective reward, it can be a fear, it can even be a desire to keep things as they are. (Rob a bank and you can pay for your daughter's operation.) A bribe is an incentive that always benefits a second party as well.

In your interpretation, you place meaning on the "natural course of effort or progress", so I can see why you disagree.

I think that the most important thing to remember about Bribery, is that both parties have to either need or want something from the other. To what extent you will go is about how important the bribe is in your life at that time. As for incentive, at least you have an option to just say no thanks because it does not affect you in the least if you do not get the incentive. I abstain from being bribed because my belief is that the most important things in life, although the hardest to come by do not cost a dime.