Disgusting

It's sick how they teach their children the science of weapons, and how all kids say: "I want to be a gunner when I grow up".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMI4gbSOSVI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Once again, "hypocrisy" from the 1st world...
They saw the Nazis and Fascists .. but they refuse to see the Zionists.

Human nature,

we are engineered to try and out-do one another in whatever way possible.

From fighting wars to just taunting somebody, think of that rush you get when you feel you have just bettered somebody in an argument.

Human nature at its finest.

We are a plague that has no real regard for anyone or anything other than ourselves.

Have to agree Darren!

We are a plague however, that I'm afraid is not long for this wonderful earth of ours, as we destroy every living thing on the planet, in the name of money, power and religion..

I'd like to know the context of the video because it isn't really given. Is it a school trip, is that place a museum, a tourist attraction? To be honest I don't know a whole lot about the political situation in the Israel so I'm not best qualified to speak on that.

What I do know a little about is the nature of children and the nature of propaganda/conditioning, especially in education. I think that's the issue here. Few little things I'd like to point out

1) This source/video should be taken with a pinch of salt. How many children did the guy interview? Was he selective about the answers he wanted to show? Did he have an agenda or bias? Did he only show the most sensationalist/extreme answers in his video clip? What happens when the children go to school and tell their teacher about the visit?

2) Children are both imaginative and impressionable. If they see guns and tanks, they are going to imagine battles, like they see in video games or on tv shows. I took children on a trip to an airfield once where they got to see the inside of small aircraft and press some buttons to move the wings etc. If I interviewed them there and then 95% of them would have said they would like to be a pilot when they grow up, they would imagine themselves doing hoops in the sky and could tell me a bit about the planes themselves. Doesn't mean they will grow up to be pilots. When I was a child I used to spend most of my play hours either with toy soldiers or outside with toy guns imagining being in battle. I hate the idea or wars and violence now.

3) That place is not a very child friendly one. Knowing that children are impressionable, it isn't the best place for children to be especially if they are being encouraged along the lines of 'isn't it great that these guns can kill x amount of people y.' There is no evidence of that happening in the video. I didn't see that in the video. Any focus on education of these children should be on objectivity and balance.

4) The children's parents and grandparents impart a lot of their bias onto their children: Its a generation thing. Even here in Ireland, the war of independence was nearly 100 years ago but there is still some anti-british sentiment that is generally passed down but lessened with each generation. Rivalry is never far around the corner and sometimes there's an 'us vs them' thing that is probably down to inherited national pride. This is probably the case here also, to an extent.

5) Abed, you seem to be generalising when you say 'all children want to be a gunner when they grow up.' Its a good few of the possibly select amount of children that they are showing who are at an military base at the time who say that. Of those, many won't grow up to join the military. Also, calling it hypocracy from the first world is a simplistic view.

"I'd like to know the context of the video because it isn't really given. Is it a school trip, is that place a museum, a tourist attraction?"

Funny. does it really make a difference ??

Abed...I'm confused by your last sentence so can you explain it for me...

They saw the Nazis and Fascists .. but they refuse to see the Zionists.

Who do you mean by 'they'?

You have to read the whole thing in this link I stumbled across years ago when an Emily Litella parody hung out here years ago

http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/001015.html

Emily Litella Speaks Out On The Situation In The Middle East

Your heart just has to break to see these Shiite children in Lebanon smiling and writing "messages" on the rockets that soon will devastate Israeli homes. What kind of sick society produces little girls who exult in the infliction of pain against people they've never met?

And look at the woman in the background, presumably their mother clearly she approves! Sadly, until the Arabs let go of their culture of incitement and rage, I'm afraid there's no concession Israel can ever make that will bring peace with these people.

What's that?

Those aren't Lebanese girls writing on Hezbollah rockets, but Israeli girls writing on Israeli shells?

Oh.

Never mind.

Does the "they" extend far beyond the Hebron police and are they descendants of the Jews
the UN placed there who survived Nazi Germany?

http://youtu.be/iTzB1N_EZXU

Of course it does Abed, Im surprised you cant see that, maybe you dont want to.

Good post Michael it shows that the same is happening on both 'sides.' Abed if you had been born and raised in Israel you may well have been one of the kids in that video you shared. It honestly looks to me youve been subject to the same type of conditioning and inherited beliefs as the children in the video but from the other angle.

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Colm, did you even see the picture Michael posted well?

Shiite children don't write in English & Hebrew on rockets, dude. Those are Israeli girls. lmao.

Its a pity that you miss the point completely.

Https://screen.yahoo.com/weekend-emily-litella-nothing-000000390.html

Emily had a way with scoring points

What's all this fuss about missals , don't we all need a prayer?

But it's pity-er that you missed something of big importance, while focusing on the superficial facade of things.

This thread is sounding like the blind wise men describing an elephant from their own perspectives.
One felt its side & declared the elephant to be a wall.
One felt its trunk & said it was serpentine.
one felt its tail and thought it to be like a rope.

We may all see the same picture but focus on different aspects. Michael's story describes a) the horror of war with regard to its impact on children, b) the prejudice that westerners have to assume the people are Palestinian and c) the complicity of westerners to look the other way when the subjects are shown to be Israeli. On the other hand, d) the fact that the particular subjects are Israeli does not mean the same horror is not perpetrated by the "Other Side."

The fact is there are warmongers and victims abundant on all sides. The evils are further exacerbated by first world patronage by Europe, Russia & the US. In other areas of the world the same scenario plays out with client nations warring with first world-produced weapons, sold for profit by government supported multinational corporations.

Until enough people in each area are sufficiently outraged, this process will continue. Finger-pointing is not the solution. Accepting personal responsibility not to prolong the battle, not to accuse, but to demand accountability. That is the way toward peace. It begins with each individual.

Good to see you back with more bigotry Abed....

Read this in the comments on that video

Abdullah Rafie
3 days ago
"Sad thing is, we teach our kids the same thing"

That about sums it up...!

Http://youtu.be/h0PgCEG7jxk

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/05/19/explaining-john-kerrys-apartheid-slur/

No idea what bigorty means, but I'll take it as a compliment ^_^

I watch your videos on my facebook and I feel bigotry is not a word that describes you . I can't imagine anyone who has a true understanding of hate would take any emotion you have expressed on this thread. I think you may be surprised at the number people I know that could not express a single feeling in the English language . I cannot help to be proud to have had the opportunity to have communicated with so many that actually live in the area where the third most well known poet in the world lived

PS your sister has an annoying scream :)

Disgust

Disgust is a strong negative feeling of aversion or disapproval. You may have a sickening feeling of revulsion, loathing or nausea. Disgust, as registered by the wrinkled nose, lowered brows, narrowed eyes, a protruded tongue and a open-mouthed look of a baby who has just tasted lemon juice, certainly is universal.

You can tell when people are disgusted by their facial expressions; they raise their cheeks, curl their upper lips, the lip corners are drawn down and back, narrow or partly close their eyes, lower and slightly narrow their eyebrows, lowering the inner corners of the eyebrows, draw up and wrinkle their noses, jerk their heads backwards, shake their heads side-to-side, protrude or move forward their tongues, and make gutteral sounds of "ach" or "ugh".
Disgusting is the topic
I take pride in my bloodline, and have been raised to believe there is power in the blood of a martyr and though guns and other WMD's produce an overwhelming number of martyrs
Forgive them Father for they know not what the do
I challenge anyone to teach me how I may not be disgusted by the sight of guns in the hands of innocents that have to be taught bigotry

Abed it is hard to understand how every Gentile in the middle east feel that the non gentiles are preparing a genocide or a modern Holocaust . please tell me I am misunderstanding

I don't agree with the TP camp in the link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXOKFZj734&feature=share&list=PLks8mXumtDBJvCqRh15M9ae4yI9OfgA7s

I have no idea what Bigorty means either... Bigotry on the other hand... well yes a certain name does come to mind....

Larry summed it up...

"and how all kids say: "I want to be a gunner when I grow up". "

Obviously you are not a father and never experienced a child's growth! Children say many "silly" things and yet they would "never" act upon them! Why you might ask, well because 90% of us, parents actually teach them the value of life to respect and love another... You don't believe me? If you could prove me wrong I wouldn't be able to type this reply... ~smiles~

"The heart is a
The thousand-stringed instrument
That can only be tuned with
Love."
~Hafiz~

On another note, I can not help but to notice the tone of some of your replies.... How can I say this to be politically correct.hmmmmm? If there is "homophobia" than by the reflections of your posts there must be a jewphobia!!!

Such a shame, really..

"Peace in two words is the merging of two paths:
fairness with friends, fellowship with enemies."
~Hafiz~

You know what is really disgusting well more than that.. abhorrent beyond belief.. is things like this committed in many Muslim countries around the world today.. the girl was 17 and just happened to fall for the wrong boy, he was christian. It happened outside the court the military just sit back and watch as as she is murdered...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wjpg_stonedtodeath_news?start=167

I'm not Christian, Muslim or anti any religion but barbaric acts like this just beggar believe in the 21st century, how can anybody with an ounce of humanity be involved or sit back and let this happen in the name of religion...

Its not like its some beheading by fanatics for the camera, these are everyday people off the street... and its not a one off, this is happening all the time... A woman is sentenced to death by stoning in Pakistan because she changed religion from Muslim to marry a Christian.

I was a Muslim and Islam sucks. I'm not religious anymore and my whole family wants me dead. Xoxo. Bye.

That was a great post Nicko!

"I was a Muslim and Islam sucks. I'm not religious anymore and my whole family wants me dead. Xoxo. Bye."

^^^Well that's just beyond saddening...

Noura, my heart goes out to you, honey. Love between family members should be unconditional.

What is 'free will' worth, when people condemn you the moment you make us of it?