Gaza

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    When people are left with no choice but to cement together bombed and smashed bricks in order to rebuild something resembling their homes because bricks are not being allowed into Gaza, obviously, something is wrong with the world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goods_allowed_or_banned_for_import_into_Gaza)
    When children and elders are dying from treatable illnesses because medicines are not being allowed into Gaza, something is also wrong with the world (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/indepth/2011-06/14/c_13929519.htm)
    When babies are being born with deformities because of the weapons they've used in that December or in that January. You know there is something wrong with the picture (http://gazatoday.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-birth-defects-seen-in-gaza-due-to.html)
    When there is something in Israeli low, called the grandparents clause, that entitles any human being anywhere in the face of this planet who could prove that they have one Jewish grandparent to Israeli citizenship, yet people whose grandparents, great grandparents are from Jerusalem, when they don't have citizenships, but yet, these people who have Jewish heritage, all of a sudden entitled to citizenships, there is something wrong with the world (http://www.alara.net/xbooks/mischling.txt)
    I Speak to you guys when I say this, as people who carry passports and citizenships which are not only responsible for the Belford deceleration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917) but is also one of Israel's main killing machine suppliers
    Isn't it your duty to go and visit Gaza and the west bank, in order to understand the human side of this issue I'm typing to you about?
    I urge all of you who hold precious US passports to travel to Gaza, and see how your Taxes have been spent, Go there, and see how the bombs which read, Made in America, have been received
    The united stated government with its estimated 1000 military bases worldwide, from Japan, to UAE, to Egypt and Columbia, and its monopoly on the arms industry, didn't only allow these crimes to happen, it collaborated on these crimes against humanity, and whether you want to admit it or not, the people of Gaza can never, and will never forget this collaboration.
    The siege, or blockade, whatever you decide to call it, is another example of Israel attempting to play God with people's lives.
    But why has this siege become an accepted norm in the eyes of the world?
    Because of the same media outlets who so beautifully counted the exact number of rockets fired from Gaza onto lands, us Palestinians were forced to leave through murder and pillage
    I wonder if these same media outlets ever bothered to count how many tins of beans or pieces of bread were not allowed to reach the hungry bellies of Gaza,
    Furthermore, did any of these Influential media outlets bothered to count how many American made
    White phosphorus bombs were dropped on the heads of these human beings in Gaza?
    My people's struggle, is a struggle for public perception, 1st, and foremost, because there is a machine at work, that wants you to believe that a man with a rocket launcher, no passport, and no nationality is more a threat to humanity then a state which has invaded and occupied every single neighboring country (Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt) and it is armed with its teeth with the most sophisticated killing machine on the face of this planet
    These same media outlets want you to believe a man with a beard and a rock sack is more a threat to all humanity than the killing machine which were produced by BEA systems, every single day,
    Even the recent disputes between Obama, and Netanyahu administrations, was not enough to even pause these abnormally relationship Israeli shares with American made killing machines
    While Netanyahu was in Washington supposedly being chastised, The pentagon and Israel were in the process of signing a massive arms deal but of course that wasn't reported in the main stream press over there, was it? No
    It seems that of the most honest reporting of Israeli's actions, one can only rely on certain voices within the Israeli press, there's an article in the newspaper Haartz, dated 30th of march, 2010, Israel will purchase three new Hercules C 130J airplanes, the Deal for the three aircrafts designed, is worth roughly a quarter billion dollar, each aircraft costs 70 million dollars
    The aircraft was manufactured specifically for Israeli needs and included a large number of systems
    Produced by the Israeli defense industry, here is the important part
    The deal was covered by American foreign assistant funds. (http://www.haaretz.com/news/exclusive-despite-row-u-s-and-israel-sign-massive-arms-deal-1.266650)
    So you see, while this show of disagreement was played out for the world press, the continued relationship of collaboration was still very firmly in place
    Israel has numerously bombed Gaza since then on a few separate occasions, maybe they were testing their new equipments, after all, America doesn't allocate foreign assistants for nothing, and they don't do weapons of mass destruction for nothing either.
    And while the world sleeps, the crimes against humanity continue, but why is it deemed acceptable for such crimes to be committed on the indigenous people of that very important land?
    Simply because the governments of The United kingdom, USA, and Israel, is they have demonstrated time, and time again, without fail, refuse to recognize our humanity,
    But what about you?
    The humans, the people of UK, and the people of USA, where do you stand?
    And while it is easy to spot the line of division on this matter, it's not a line dividing Jewish and Arab opinions, it's not a line dividing Jewish and Muslim opinion, nor is it a line dividing Israeli and Palestinian opinion, it is a line dividing those who believe of the equality of all, and those who believe in the supremacy of some, this is my people's struggle, to bring equality, nothing more, and nothing less, our struggle, is not about the supremacy of anyone, or the dehumanization of anyone, that is Zionism , our struggle is about the humanization and the equality of all.

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. "
    Martin lute king

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    By reverend Martin Niemoller:

    First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
    Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    ==

    So I speak out for justice only, regardless of any name or...

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    It came to my attention that some fundamentalist believe that the commandment that I always was taught as "Thou shalt not kill". was not translated properly and what the almighty meant to be written in stone was "thou shalt not murder". Murder is unjust killing and through all the rhetoric of politicians I will never in good conscience justify the killing of innocence whether you want to add shields after the word human or not.

    Http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/meast/human-shields-mideast-controversy/

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    Come on Michael, "Et tu, Brute??"

    This is CNN, Zionists propaganda. How else could they justify massacring of children?? They even bombed the UN's school( not once) that the official witnessed there were no army around:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDtT_GkqrE0

  • Hellon
    10 years ago

    Ddavidd....your video only showed me a very good speaker....without a doubt and...a person crying...

    Anyhow...the world is ignoring Gaza and I wonder why. America continues to support Israel which means the sheep will follow...UK, Australia....etc...meanwhile...Iraq gets bombed once more...at the drop of a hat WTF????

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    I am not sure Israel is totally blameless in these murders ddavidd but David Duke was a KKK member . The KKK has traditionally been connected with hatred of non whites Jews and Catholics

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/david-duke-expelled-from-italy-8988849.html

  • Hellon
    10 years ago

    Rabea..I meant to ask..your OP..did you write that?

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Aye, I did
    but it's not new,
    just fitting according to the current situation

  • Sylvia
    10 years ago

    ^^^^^^^^.Iraq gets bombed once more...at the drop of a hat WTF????

    Being done after a long and painful decision making process to save over 40,000 Christians driven from their homes to a mountain top by ISIS and as Obama said to prevent a Genocide. ISIS gave them the options of converting to Islam or being killed.

    EDIT:
    Should have added that the bombs are very targeted to convoys of ISIS fighters after the Christians and that at the same time this targeted bombing in happening, the US is dropping food, water, clothes, blankets and supplies to the Christians since they had to flee their homes without being able to take any of their possessions with them.

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    It is about the time that for the first time American army does something for the sake of goodness. Now, ISIS, when in Iraq, it is the enemy, and when in the other side, in Syria fighting against Assad, is the ally of US. It is the most ridiculous situation. The politic nowadays is very complicated. According to Edward Snowden, Mossad and CIA, created ISIS by financing them and by training them. Now they realize that they unleashed a very dark force that even them cannot control.

    But this all said, I am glad, even though these little air strikes are not going to do anything. They have to fight them in the ground. These people (Daesh) are the most aggressive and the darkest force ever. They are even crueler then Israelis army.

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    This is a good analogy of the situation with IS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfzMHDkdIC4

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    IMHO The balance of power in the region once known as holy lands did nothing but deteriorate since US intervention intensified under Bush and now the propaganda is that it will take about twelve years of the same interventions to relieve us from the role of world police

    Sorry to disagree ,but to be honest I don't think Alex Jones will ever be POTUS
    I see him as even more of a bigot than David Duke

  • Hellon
    10 years ago

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  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    It is normal. Like others, for us, it is about the name too. If the name is already trashed, we turn deaf to what the person has to say.
    Though I have developed a set of ears that in them the truth stand by itself. I listen regardlessly. It takes a long time effort to develop such ears.
    It is the matter of location actually, The focal point of our attention. Somewhere near to the point zero, where the only believe is truth, and God is the only religion.

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    The way I look at it is by judicial evidence of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is only possible by an unbiased witness

    I know that Alex Jones is biased against what he perceives as liberal

    edit
    Alex lost his credibility with me when he made general statements such as Assad did nothing . I don't trust the FBI or the CIA ,but there are many things classified that I know Alex Jones has no access to and he tends to acquit his cronies before they are thoroughly investigated . Many Israelis blame the bombing of Syria in one day a little girl sand of freedom on Assad . Why did they not accuse Hamas if their goal is dividing the Palestinians

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    Haha exactly my point!!

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    Alex lost his credibility with me when he made general statements such as "Assad did nothing" . I don't trust the FBI or the CIA ,but there are many things classified that I know Alex Jones has no access to and he tends to acquit his cronies before they are thoroughly investigated . Many Israelis blame the bombing of Syria in one day a little girl sand of freedom on Assad . Why did they not accuse Hamas if their goal is dividing the Palestinians?

    Footage of a Syrian girl injured by a bomb while singing for freedom has gone viral online.

    Syrian opposition activists broadcasted the emotional video that was filmed on the Nov. 16, 2012 in Aleppo.

    The video shows a young girl singing before she is interrupted by a deadly bomb blast that erupted near her.

    In the short video, young opposition activists appeared protesting and shouting against the regime carrying flags from the era of French rule in the 1920's. They use these flags as markers of their revolution.

    The song sung by the girl is symbolic.

    "Hoping for freedom, hoping," she laments, referring to the many young Syrians who are seeking freedom from Assad's regime.

    The opposition frequently uses videos and films that they post on YouTube and other social media sites to grab the world's attention to their pains and suffering.

    This footage in particular proved very popular; it was picked up by supporters of the opposition the world over.

    Some social media users are saying "enough" to the bombs and the videos of innocent children being injured and killed every day.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

  • The Jew
    10 years ago

    I was in Jerusalem 2 years ago and I have seen many things but let me tell you about the ones I have not seen on youtube, and all the other media channels you are oh so liberated to call upon! Jews, Christians and Muslims were greeting each other as Brothers..

    You have a very special brush to paint a picture about ANYONE that you feel its against your religious beliefs, a brush that is threaded with hatred and ignorance
    Keep on marching to your own drumming and sing your songs, a day will dawn when you will see that behind this bloodshed were your very own hands to blame...

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    I love the way you point out obliviousness but practically have no claim in backing it up,
    shows how mature you are bud.
    too smug mate.
    too smug

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Hope you're aware that ISIS have their own "Islam"

    I am a Muslim, but not for ISIS :] they would slaughter me if ever, I am, to be in their hands.

    What's happening with Christians in Iraq is just the same to what happened to Christians in Syria by ISIS and those Islamist groups who claim to be Muslims, just how more Muslims around the region are being treated now. It's just as awful as what's happening to the other Muslims by ISIS. They believe in their own religion. They have their own beliefs. They apply laws of which they have created.

    They've already killed countless numbers of Muslims and Non-Muslims. Christians are still less hated by ISIS than Shiite Muslims or other sects. Some sects are considered by ISIS as infidels, the Sect I belong to, for example, is one of them...If I was a christian I would have the choice to either convert to who they are or to pay a certain amount of money, but being a Shiite (a Muslim) I do not have that chance, I will be swiftly slaughtered because according to them, I am not a Muslim.

    There is no place that the ISIS organization has passed through that was not corrupted. They are like a virus. A terrorist group armed to do exactly what they are doing now.

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    Hillary Clinton, also said it that the US is responsible for creating ISIS and al qaeda in general. During the Afghanistan war they decided to create the green belt around the former Soviet Union to fight against the communism. The plan was to promote the most fanatic aspect of Islamic faith in the region first by overthrowing ( or by letting to be overthrown) the Shah of Iran and the creation of the Islamic republic. Then by creating the conflict between the Sunnis and Shias... Who Is going to doubt now the obvious choice between Assad and ISIS? Now who is paing for that mistake??

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    Hillary Clinton, also said it that the US is responsible for creating ISIS and al qaeda in general. During the Afghanistan war they decided to create the green belt around the former Soviet Union to fight against the communism. The plan was to promote the most fanatic aspect of Islamic faith in the region first by overthrowing ( or by letting to be overthrown) the Shah of Iran and the creation of the Islamic republic. Then by creating the conflict between the Sunnis and Shias... Who Is going to doubt now the right choice between Assad and ISIS? Now who is paing for that mistake??

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Yes, in her book "Hard Choices" which I am currently on the very opening pages, reading it. She explains everything you just said David, but in DETAILS, and ofcourse in a different sense. But makes everything clear.

    Feel free anyone to find it online as a PDF and read what Clinton has to say by her own words, on all of this.

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    How I became a "self-hating Jew":

    http://youtu.be/QLDE4mRwfSQ

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    Could be the third anti Christ bellow

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi

  • Darren
    10 years ago

    From what I have heard (or read)

    President Obama is the anti-Christ.

    is it said that the anti Christ will not have any idea that he is in fact the anti-Christ.

    He will rise to power and push materialism upon the masses. Eradicating free will and thought from the human race. We will lose the power of empathy and no longer believe in spirituality.

    Well the wars have started, America and the UK have dipped their toes in the water.

    We started life in the vegetable state, move to animal state now ending in mineral state.

    Just look at human behaviour today around the world, god help my great grandchildren.

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    We are the Samuel Beckett's " Waiting for Godot", the 'Waiting for Anti-Christ' special edition.
    Which some people say (in the sixth satanic verse) is the Christ himself, because of the Butt- Backward society that Illuminates are taken as saints and Zionist are those sworn enemies of the true Zion.

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    They don't seem sincere when they express regret for killing innocent civilians . I have heard it said if the US had spent a tenth of a penny for every dollar that they spent on the Vietnam war in foreign aid to Vietnam there would never had been any communist Vietnamese to fight

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    "for every dollar that they spent on the Vietnam war in foreign aid to Vietnam there would never had been any communist Vietnamese to fight"

    They never meant to aid dear Michael. What here is hidden from our understanding is the fact that that money spent, is the very purpose of these wars: The Government of united state buys those weapons with the people's money FROM the weapons companies in the name of national defence. According to those government officials, who've been appointed by the weaponry elites (to do this task exactly), the money is well spent.

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    Very sad :(

  • ddavidd
    10 years ago

    The saddest part is that our people are being defrauded out of their rightful wealth, send over to get killed, and to slaughter others nations in the name of democracy, national defence or... only for the greed of a few.

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Agreed, David.. simply said.

  • Maple Tree
    10 years ago

    What's really sad, is innocent people are being killed and dying daily.. while being marked with labels of where they come from or were born. The "leaders" of each country makes decisions for the greater "good" or so they think... and it is for greed and power.

    The dying and suffering are forced to be labeled by the wrongdoings of government leaders. I am not ashamed to say it saddens me to be labeled american.. I am not the decisions of The united States, I am a human being who simply wishes to live in peace and wish the senseless killing for greed and power would cease!

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    I'm sickened and deeply saddened by whats happening in this world and mans inhumanity to man

    Yes i"m saddened by Israel's indiscriminate bombing of Gaza that have killed innocents (given that those innocents weren't the target) Also that they have been racist against the Palestinians under there control.

    But I'm even more concerned by what's happening in other counties, for example what's happening in Iraq with ISIS, where hundreds of innocents have been murdered for not converting to Islam, where the young and pretty women are separated and shipped off, they then have to convert to Islam and forced into marriage or murdered if they fail to convert..
    There's plenty of horrific graphic footage, one of a 10 year old Christian girl in her Sunday best beheaded by Islamic extremists

    SO Ddavidd where are you ???? where's all your righteous indignation on this ?? Abed where are you ??? maybe your silence speaks volumes

    Is this what is in store for the Christians and Jews should the state Israel disappear ?? some how I think it is

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Nicko there is somthing that all of the world should seriously understand.

    I really do not get why you told Abed and David that their silence speak volumes. Are you by any chance accusing or claiming that ISIS represent Islamic beliefs taking Abed as a Lebanese muslim ? And taking David as someone who defends the Palestinian case ? I am just trying to ask you not accuse u ^__^ because ISIS has no goal to fight Israel lol. They'd rather kill muslims who do not believe in them on fighting Israel.

    Nickk..open your heart and mind..IsIs is a terrorist group. Blood thirsty and they do not know God or religion. Those poeple who are not only iraqi christains but also from other different beliefs. Those were not killed because they did not convert to Islam!! They were killed because they did not convert to whatever IsIs believe in.

    I am a muslim, everyone who knows me here or on facebook know that I am a muslim. If i was caught by ISIS by any chance they will rape slaughter and burn the hell out of me because I do not belong to whatever beliefs they come up with.

    All islamic secterian officials and representatives around the world cleared it out that ISIs and their groups have no relation to do with Islam. If they were muslims for real why did they kill all those muslim people im Syria?? They mascared whole ages dude. They entered a lebanese city a while ago and bombed kidnapped and killed our soldiers! Our soldiers were muslims lol.

    They have their own religion Nicko, christians are still less hated by IsIs than other muslims. For example christians can pay money and keep their life, but me as Rania who is muslim i do not have that chance, for them I am a cursed infidel something that they were born to kill and fight. And if they kill me like they are killing all people from diff sects and religion they will go to heaven.

    Just cause they use the word Islam and muslim doesnt mean they are so. Muslims are millions and milloons of people around the world, if that's Islam then why aren't we all muslims representing them or at least doing the terrorism they are acting.

    Just one simple example, those terrorist organizations have killed all sorts of people but did not go fight in Israel for Gaza and Quds? Why do they not fight Israel ? Lol aint't really clear

    Come on. These people were armed and trained to do these atrocities and to inflict further gaps and conflicts between Muslims and Muslims, Muslims and Christians, westerns and arabs etc.These people represent danger on every single human being.

  • Colm
    10 years ago

    I think everyone can agree that IS are deplorable in every way and that their actions don't speak for the majority of Muslims. Nana is right to call them a terrorist organisation. Just the other day I saw on the newspaper about a British 'rapper' who had joined IS posting a picture of him holding up a severed head. He, like the others in IS are obviously criminal scumbags jumping on the bandwagon for a chance to kill people and do what they like in the name of some cause.

    The bit I have a problem in Nana's post is the last line. I'm not a supporter of America in many things and for example I don't agree with their stance on Gaza/Israel. But to put the sole/main blame on America for IS/ISIS is too far. I think the most important thing in this situation is not to deal blame but to hope IS and their 'ideals' can and will be stopped.

    It's easy to take a few lines or paragraphs of a 600 or so page book and claim it as proof. Hilary Clinton has clarified what was said in her book, that the US didn't create IS in the way that many people jumped to the conclusion.

    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/562698/20140814/conspiracy-theory-isis.htm#.U_NS38VdUvE

    She says how it was the failure to support the original rebels in Syria that paved the way for more extreme groups such as IS to gain power amidst the fighting. But then again America would have gotten ridiculed if they had gotten more involved in Syria at the time and it could have turned into another Iraq/Saddam Hussain type situation.

    Not a perfect analogy and just using it to try to make my point, but blaming America for IS atrocities is similar to blaming America for the Holocaust: If they hadn't put such huge sanctions on Germany (reparations) after WW1 Hitler and Nazism wouldn't have risen to power, or if they had entered the war before Pearl Harbour they might have stopped Hitler's march through Europe. No, the blame lies with the Nazi's for the Holocaust, even if it may have been different if America or the other allied nations had acted differently.

    America does make mistakes sometimes but they are usually in no-win situations, and what country is perfect? Russian-backed rebels shot down a commercial passenger plane, probably by accident but there was little or no talk about that: China has a terrible human rights record yet that rarely or never gets mentioned. My point being that America are often easy scapegoats when the fact is that terrorist extremists are responsible for their actions, nobody else. And at least America were the first to drop aid to the thousands stranded on the mountain and at least they are trying to stop IS/ISIS now.

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Agreed upto 95% of that, and therefore took off that last sentence to avoid complications.

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    Hi Sunshine I appreciate what you are saying, but I used what is happening with ISIS as an example and yes they are killing Muslims as well, things like this are happening the world over.

    What's happening in Gaza is a political tool for both ddavidd and Abed and a few others, there are worse atrocities happening around the world but they don't push their political wheel barrow so its of no interest to them. that's the point I'm making

    Hope that makes sense to you

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Yes, I understand your point of view very well.

    I believe that there is no atrocity less important in any way or shape or form than another atrocity happening somewhere over the world.

    Terrorism is seriously an abused word, what Israel has been doing for the past years in Palestine till this moment is a continious tragedy, and here is the difference. It's an unending oppression to an entire population.

    The difference is, what's happening in Palestine is a 50+ years old tragedy, many atrocities have happened since the occupation of that country, but the oppression did not end, neither the mascares. Many phenomenas have showed up, but the tragedy in Palestine did not stop. Many things have changed over time, conflicts, short-termed wars, terrorist attacks, crimes, etc, but the tragedy in Palestine did not change, in any single way. Just getting worse, and here lays the main issue.

    I do not think any of us; you or Abed or David really need political tools...we are all humans Nicko, if we will put one tragedy and place it above another claiming that it's less important, many people would not have anyone to shed the light on their suffering.

    The only major difference here is that what ISIS is doing to people all over the world is being covered by media, pretty well, while what's happening in Palestine is being manipulated by media, and hence, people who know the truth, who live in a nearby region, people like me who never saw Palestinians trying to resist back this oppresssion ever before, we try to do the job media is failling to.

    No body is defending ISIS, the world agrees on labelling them as terrorist groups. But that's not the case when it comes to Israel, they are labelled as Defence Forces :) (occupation forces ofcourse for me). And that, is a very important point.

    That's the only fact difference that makes me feel obliged to try spread awareness to what's happening to people who do not even have an army, but yet claimed to be "dangerous" by media. :]

    Anyway..hope the world becomes a place for humans, because currently, its a 1 big jungle powered by inhumanity.