The truth about Gaza...

  • The Jew
    10 years ago

    Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc8EjQEpZ3s

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Edit:

    needed a new thread ? like really ? lol
    I am finishing my reply with a youtube URL of video that replies to your post, if you do not wish to read.

    Because this is exactly what Propaganda is.
    Despite that I've came across your video before, it was sickeningly funny to pass skim it again.

    Nothing to say, I can bring you 100's of videos where I can cut and collect interviews, speeches, demonstrations translated, words words words, and make you believe that Indians are invading USA.

    I doubt anyone will buy such bullshit anymore, even Israeli people have faced the truth. Give me facts, like facts have been given, then say the word "Truth".

    This is really funny, especially the last few minutes lol about kids and Jihad, talking as if Palestinians are out of the world.

    This is not TRUTH, this is a utube video with a group of people talking and throwing accusations, with people in streets with their words translated, come on... lol nothing really new about this. AND most importantly there are plenty of them on youutube.

    Now let's talk some facts :) the truth, about Palestine:

    # of israeli victims since 2001: 29 israelis
    # of Palestinians since 2001: 5,700 Gazans.

    (despite the additions during the ongoing genocide currently)

    not enough ? ok..

    let's get to the truth without stitching videos and speeches, in the following is a picture proved evidence that beats strongly what you have given us up there, along with settings that show how Gazans are in-contrary to what you are suggesting, definitely not people who send their kids to bomb themselves, they cannot afford that anyway :]

    I will leave it for the viewers in all cases.

    oh the evidence, right :)

    This is Palestine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pOLNtDsTho&hd=1

    ^ the above video is self explanatory, (before Hamas even existed) contradicting what my fellow member shared with us. The only difference, that this is a complete session with credible facts and numbers that are easy for you to find and research.

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Watching this video.
    well
    there's two sides to each coin son.
    hope that thick head of yours understand.

    a comment from the link you've provided
    "wow. I've never seen such a bias video. Everybody who comes in playing the 'reasonable voice' role is jewish or isaeli"

    seriously the part that talked about the 2nd intifida.
    that's disgusting

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    Hi Sunshine

    The figures in that video are a little misleading if you do your research

    Alison Weir states that since 2001, 29 Israeli's were killed by rockets fired from Gaza and the total number of Gazans killed is 5700 in the same period by Israeli forces. Yet in the next breath she says 132 Israeli Children were killed since 2001. How were these kids killed ? Its not comparing apples with apples.

    If you research the figures from 2000 till 2007

    1,024 Israelis, and 63 foreign citizens were killed
    4,228 Palestinians citizens were killed

    the percentage of Israeli civilians killed is higher than the Palestinians, in other words the Israeli military have targeted the Palestinian military better that the Palestinians have

    And yes since 2007 there have been a lot more deaths on both sides and more recently yes a lot more Palestinians in Gaza many of which are women and children

    I'm not saying that what Israel is currently doing is right with their bombing of Gaza nor the racial segregation of the Palestinians living within Israels borders, She is criticizing that the media have been unbalanced in the way its been reported in the US which is some cases she is right about, but if you are going to publicly lecture on these things at least get the numbers right and portray them in a fair way. shes doing exactly what she accusing the rest of the media of doing

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    The fact is, if Israel were to withdraw to the boarders first mandated back in 1948 and all the land given back to the Palestinians so they could form their own state, the war would not end

    We all know that as long as the state of Israel exists in any form or any size anywhere in that region, the Arab countries will not accept it. there will be war no matter what Israel does

    That is a fact .....

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Until one of them cancels the other out!

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    No.... until the Arab states cancel out Israel. you have to admit that ????

  • nouriguess
    10 years ago

    Yeah...

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Will
    I hear chants saying death to Arabs in every protest they make
    Let's be honest here a two state solution is what I personally would want to come to light
    But I'd be a fool if I think that would ever be possible
    The hate us Arabs and zionests have brewed and feasted upon each other
    Will never diminish
    Sadly

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Will
    I hear chants saying death to Arabs in every protest they make
    Let's be honest here a two state solution is what I personally would want to come to light
    But I'd be a fool if I think that would ever be possible
    The hate us Arabs and zionests have brewed and feasted upon each other
    Will never diminish
    Sadly

  • Abed
    10 years ago

    Hell Yeah.

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    Rabea at least you see sense.. Israel also wants peace and advocated 2 states as well

    But the Arab Nations will never accept that

    So we are condemned to war that has every indication of spreading across the world...

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    Yeah but i don't see eye to eye with you as you clearly, put the blame on one side more than the other.
    if we're considered evil
    then "Israel is the mother of all that's evil my friend.
    there's no comparing the means and methods of how they kill people.

  • nouriguess
    10 years ago

    If Israelis want "peace", they can get the hell out of a land that is not their own and stop waging wars. After committing countless massacres, they want "peace"... aw, poor Israelis. Why aren't we letting them settle in our countries and kill our people? We're such heartless fanatics.

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    No it takes two tango.. And many don't agree with how Israel have deal with things... But the state of Israel is not evil. And just about every western country plus many others like Russia and China support it's continued existence.

    Every race have there share of good and bad, the Jews are no exception but they are not evil and to my knowledge don't make a habit of decapitation of young boys and girls or anybody else for that matter !

    And Noura the Jews have lived in what is now the state of Israel for thousands of years why do you have more right to it than them ??? They were there thousands of years before there were Muslims !

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    Noura that's not really how you can put things you know, but I got you.

    But let me get one thing straight, hate and war ? Let's put the occupation part aside, seeing that Jews believe that they are the chosen people and that they did not occupy that land, but that it's the land God promised them even if many of those in the ISraeli army do not even believe in God. ANYWAY put the land issue aside. Let's say it's already a 2 states situation because that is a very complicated part with many myths and beliefs that we do not wish to make absurd, at the moment.

    How can we realllly and seriously talk about hate and war, or peace, when the Palestinians are living in oppression, racism, and horror ? Gaza is besieged in the most inhuman ways. How can we say that Israel is not an evil state ? JEws are not evil, yes, how can we say anyone is evil as a humanbeing. I never believed that any religion is evil, infact as a Muslim I believe in all religions and that we all have 1 God. I could never accuse jews of being evil because that just reflects who I am. But the Zionist entity ? Different story. Israel as a state ? come onnn, it's built on evil.

    How could anyone of you stand living in that prison with the Israeli forces suddenly showing up demolishing your houses, or your lands and preventing you from rebuilding ?
    suddenly invading your house and carrying you or your children to prison ?
    how can you stand living in such conditions and you don't even have an army,
    no rights, not effinthing! You are not allowed to do anything.

    The "jewish" entity was never a newborn baby, on the night of 15 May 1948, AND before it was declared as the state of Israel, it was already one, all it needed was the official declaration. Politically, economically, andddd militarily, Israel was a strong state. Let's not victimize the state of Israel because it has always been supported.

    The main problem isn't in arabs refusing peace, just because I refuse for you to build an embassy on my land and to have economical political relations, that does mean I want war. Peace can come when you show me good intentions by allowing me to breathe. That, is something the IDF never showed for the Palestinians, neither to the Arabs because we all have suffered with the Israeli war crimes history. Resistance is not terrorism, it's not hate ..if you were occupied or hit you will resist back. If not for resistance, I now would have been in an occupied country and Israel would have been still in Beirut.

    I think the best we ALL CAN DO, since we come from different backgrounds, is to stop provoking one another. We are not the ones who tortured the jews through history. And westerns are surely not who have been suffering from Israel through history.
    So let's stop agreeing to disagreeing on who is the beast. Because today, the whole round earth is a beast.

    Let's just pray for peace before darkness consumes us all.
    We are already suffering and we all have wounds.
    Seriously..

  • Rabea JAdallah
    10 years ago

    They wonder why the mad and young are grabbing guns (Why?)
    But you could speak with your hands if you didn't have a tongue
    Even that's better than sitting down sad and numb.

  • The Jew
    10 years ago

    Rabea, it seems like that you just exploited some tragedy to further your hateful agenda against Israel, in fact it seems like that you talk a lot yet have nothing to say...
    How long it has been that you have actually helped someone in Gaza? Oh wait! My mistake, you have never been there! Your parents paid for a Western education so you can post your mediocre thoughts to keep boiling the whole world a lie..
    Keep on taking orders from some "holy messenger" or the "Easter Bunny" (for I care)
    close your eyes, don't think and never have your own thoughts... ~smiles~