Clubs Announcement

  • Baby Rainbow
    10 years ago

    I think the inactive clubs should be deleted if no activity after one month. Even when my previous clubs have been inactive, there have still been posts weekly!

  • CuteThingsGoneWrong
    10 years ago

    One to 3. Three being the longest.

  • Sunshine
    10 years ago

    1 month indeed sounds logical.

  • Courageous Dreamer
    10 years ago

    Agreed on the one month

  • Meena Krish
    10 years ago

    5 hours is just a bit too much. We have to take in consideration of the time difference.

    If a club has not been active at all..I mean totally no activity then it needs to be deleted. I say a month is good enough to get an idea how the members in a certain club are going.

    Clubs need to be monitored and in that one month there is no activity, then delete.

    Also clubs need to be given 3 warnings or notices...then delete.

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    Wow, guys! We thought 18 months would be a big step, but 1 month is huuuuge. I think we should start with 6 months. That'll actually get rid of a fair amount of clubs. Afterward, re-discuss?
    If we're seriously thinking 1 month, my vote is against. My club is small and it could happen someday that we're all gone for 1 month. It'd break my heart to come back and all our memories are gone. TC is ancient and is like a historical den.

  • Larry Chamberlin
    10 years ago

    Our "Modest Proposal" seems to have resonated.

    Some things to consider.
    Once a person applies to a club, they cannot apply to another until their application is rejected or approved. (Correct me if I'm wrong). An inactive club keeps these new applicants in limbo & prevents them from experiencing PnQ as they ought to.
    I too think one month is too short, but maybe three months?

  • Narph
    10 years ago

    ...That was not a funny joke.

    Start it at 6 months. Kick it down from there.

  • gumshuda
    10 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    3 months

    3 months

    3 months
    ....

  • Larry Chamberlin
    10 years ago

    That's twice in one week I've scarfed Narph!
    ;8-)

  • Colm
    10 years ago

    I say 3 months. With pm reminders to club managers and assistants in the weeks leading up to the the 3 month inactivity date.

    I think existing clubs that have been inactive over 6 months can look to be deleted and from now on the 3 month guide can come into place.

    A club is pretty obviously inactive if nobody makes a post in 3 months, but 1 month imo is too hasty as people can go a few weeks without being on PnQ and 1 month might come by quickly.

  • Larry Chamberlin
    10 years ago

    A warning seems important

    I like the idea of stages

  • Poet on the Piano
    10 years ago

    Ah just coming home from class and was thinking, well most of the members will probably be removed from the club. One sure way to spike activity lol... although I did like the idea of posting a poem every five hours, how's that for speed writing?

    Taking it in steps seems like a good idea, too. I think 3 months seems quite reasonable especially if this change is sent to all members or one mass pm. Then again like Colm said the managers/ assistants can pass it on.

  • Britt
    10 years ago

    MA, not everyone writes as much as you do. Give us a break! :P

  • Poet on the Piano
    10 years ago

    Hey, it's been what, 1 day since a new poem? And then 7 days before that? I've been slacking obviously.

    But for some reason it seems like a challenge Saffie would do since she always has those ideas or prompts!

  • Michael D Nalley
    10 years ago

    It should not have taken me so long... The main forum has had days it was not that active lol

  • Larry Chamberlin
    10 years ago

    If the main forum goes five hours, we suspend Janis

    JK

  • CuteThingsGoneWrong
    10 years ago

    I still lean towards 3 as the favored. 6 Is overkill... half year abs no.posts... dead at 3. It's easy ( I'm homeless ) and I log in daily.... posting once every three months? Easy at most 4 months. Hell 3 months then a warning that if no one posts in the next month it will be deleted.... then at month 4 bam.

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    One month would be insane. I was traveling abroad for 6 months at one point and barely checked in. If someone has a baby, they're likely not going to check in. Planning a wedding? Gravely ill? New job and moving? A month flies by, it really does. 3 months would be fine. We're dropping this down from 2 years. No need to be drastic. Some clubs only have a handful of members and some people have busy lives.

    The point is NOT to punish people for being busy. The point is to weed out clubs that are inactive and will remain that way, besides maybe a random post here and there once a year, so that new members have appropriate options.

  • Melpomene
    10 years ago

    Glad to see some of our members caught us out on the joke, can't fool you all hey.

    1 month is too short. Most of the clubs that have been around for centuries would most likely be deleted simply due to members having busy lives. Can you image a site without TC, PR, FOP etc. I believe 3-6 months is a safe bet.

  • Narph
    10 years ago

    Have we abolished the idea of not allowing new clubs? I think that's particularly problematic, cause it caters only to those of us who are already known to eachother, and already in a club. Any group of new people to this site should have the ability to form their own club, if they want. They shouldn't have to push and pull to fit into someone else's group.

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    Haha yeah. That part was 100% a joke. Bring on the new clubs!
    A few of the members who seemed in support of these changes were brought in on the prank with us, so don't take Nicko, Abby, or Sylvia too seriously here. Looks like a few other members caught on right away (actually Abby did too, but I told her she was right after she posted "Hilarious," then encouraged her to play along). Props. Those of you who thought 5 hours or even 12 hours would be fine... My jaw seriously dropped hahahaha! Did NOT expect that reaction.

  • abracadabra
    10 years ago

    6 months. PM after 3 months.

    I'm not sure about this new mod generation, playing with our sensitive poetic hearts like this.

    Jk, bring it on.

  • Narph
    10 years ago

    Glad it was a joke.

    I was about to call for full on war.

  • Britt
    10 years ago

    The newbies had no part, poor things were asleep. Well, I did, but I'm only half newbie.

  • Sylvia
    10 years ago

    ^^^ brought in on the prank with us, so don't take Nicko, Abby, or Sylvia too seriously here.

    Don't be so quick to dismiss what I commented just because the topic was a "joke" and a bad one I might add. What I wrote is/was how I felt/feel and is indeed serious thought to be considered in the process.

  • CuteThingsGoneWrong
    10 years ago

    Lol. I was shocked at first then it dawned.. Like right after the first post xD ANd then i just kinda went with it because i wanted to see if it was a joke or not xD Haha...
    But at first i was had. Eventually i pmed larry and was like...

    Uhh this has been going on for a little bit?? Is this serious lol.

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    I reread your post just now, Sylvia, and you're right. Your posts were serious and a realistic response to the proposition. Your second post mentioned 1 month or 6 months. I, myself, am for some kind of gradient. 6 months and in 3 months, pm's sent out to all remaining clubs that we will be taking the next step: 3 months. I would argue that any time less than 3 months would be unnecessarily harsh.

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    Nei, we were surprised by how many people caught on. I expected members to freak out - thought it might actually break in the new modlets and get them prepared. Heh. People will want your head when you're a mod. Obviously not everyone and definitely not all the time, but trust me, you can't make the whole site happy (though it is inevitably our ultimate goal).

  • CuteThingsGoneWrong
    10 years ago

    Lmao. I wasnt to worried either way. I figured even if you guys did think that was the course of action a mass pm would be sent out and most of you guys (if not all.. I dont know most of the mods, not close to most of you guys) are pretty level headed from what ive lurked on here. Yall would listen to debate and im sure enough people would push as the talk became more serious.
    So even though i was like HOLY CRAP at first i thought it through and figured it wasn't as big a deal as it was made :3

    Haha and yeah i know what you mean... Ive been a mod of a high volume site before so i know THAT is tough. Granted it was a bit different... Support sites are always a tad different from hobby sites xD

    Anyways. It was funny and made me laugh that the first attempt i made in a few months to be active on the boards led me to that xD

  • abracadabra
    10 years ago

    Really, an inactive club is nobody else's business and doesn't affect anything. Club members can leave anytime. The main incentive to delete clubs is so that club-seekers don't have trawl through a long list of death before finding a good club. Unless new clubs are springing up every week, I don't see why we have to be strict on the time frame. 6 months, not 3.

  • Baby Rainbow
    10 years ago

    What was that Guinae Pig??? You want me to hold a marathon where you have to write as many poems as you can in only 5 hours??

    Reward: I will not delete you ;)

    Hmmm... I haven't held a big challenge in a while, I think I almost killed everyone with the last club battle!! Might have to hold something soon... Bigger than a title toss!

  • Larry Chamberlin
    10 years ago

    ACTUALLY, BR, I do have a contest challenge

    it's so big only Texas and Australia can handle it in its bigness!

    STAY TUNED

    IT'S UP!

    {hit f5}

  • Nicko
    10 years ago

    I agree 6 months as a minimum, its no big deal if they just sit there inactive for that period or even longer... it actually shows a bit of the sites history....

    Its not like it makes the site run slower or takes up space, other than new members, who actually goes there ?? the new clubs are at the top of the list...easy..

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    "Yall would listen to debate and im sure enough people would push as the talk became more serious.
    So even though i was like HOLY CRAP at first i thought it through and figured it wasn't as big a deal as it was made :3"

    Nei, I take that as a huge compliment. Thank you for trusting us. We wouldn't do something so rash without sitewide consent :) Look at me, I'm worried the members are being too rash, not us! Ha!
    And on that note, I agree completely with Abby and Nicko. They're reiterating the point I was trying to make. We shouldn't punish people for inactivity -- rather, create a sensible pathway to activity by eliminating old clubs that new members might be deceived into thinking are still active. Sure, most of us know to read the "last forum post" date, but a new member may not think to look, or consider what it means.
    As I told the rest of the mods, it would be nice to delete inactive clubs because it would force new members to look at more recently active clubs. They would then hopefully create relationships in a personalized environment and become more confident about their presence on the site as a whole... and eventually pop out onto the main boards. It could create a minor chain reaction leading to greater site activity. Our intention was never to punish; only stimulate :)

  • Hellon
    10 years ago

    This joke was nearly as lame as my turkey jokes on the other thread but...hey, I'm laughing on the inside...honest :)

  • silvershoes
    10 years ago

    We sure got a kick out of it. If nothing else, we stimulated a discussion worth discussing and got members posting. I'm content.

    Next prank will be trickier! I'm determined to fool all of you. You have been warned.

  • CuteThingsGoneWrong
    10 years ago

    That makes perfect sense!

  • Hellon
    10 years ago

    Jane...my last post was intended as a joke, just in case you have taken it the wrong way? I have played enough pranks myself over the years to gracefully acknowledge when I have been foiled :)

  • Meena Krish
    10 years ago

    This is way too much reading after this type of discussion even the muse will run away!

    Joke or no joke this is indeed something serious to think about and lots of choices have been voiced out.

    Right again 1 month is too short a notice and it also depends on members' hectic life and schedule...so 3 months perhaps, send out notice and give another 3.