The Surviving Boston Bomber...

Should he have been given the death penalty? If it goes ahead...how long will it take before it's carried out...days? months? years? and how will he be put to death?

Lethal injection. or old age on death row is how he will die

It will take years. Appeal after appeal after appeal. It's doubtful he will be killed, rather die of old age as Michael stated.

The death sentence is a fair penalty for those who kill by the name of religion.
Such seed of evil must be eradicated from the world before it's too late. We have enough chaos already made by those extremists ~sigh

"Such seed of evil must be eradicated from the world before it's too late. " - by those extremists

Lovely quote.

^Thanks.

The quote is by "me" not by "those extremists" :)

Sorry, you misunderstood my sarcasm.
Your quote follows along with the ideologies of an extremist.
Just pointing out the hyprocrisy

No worries.

I do believe that extremism must be faced by extreme measures.

~enjoy your day.

I'm a little confused about how the death penalty is handed down over there. According to what I'm hearing on the news Massachusetts abolished the death penalty in 1984?

EDIT

BTW...I think lethal injection is quite a humane approach when you consider what other countries see fit...eg...hanging, firing squad etc.

The United States federal government (in comparison to the separate states) applies the death penalty for crimes: treason, terrorism, espionage, federal murder,

So...is that like some sort of safety net for states that say they have 'abolished' capital punishment? To make them look more humane than states who just say...well hello...we don't muck around, found guilty...die.

I had not really thought about it because there have only been two people in the 21st century executed by the federal government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:21st-century_executions_by_the_United_States_federal_government

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Juan Garza

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Timothy McVeigh

I'm still not following...sorry, my bad. Federal Government? is that the FBI? If so do they have powers to oversee state government legislation, when a state abolishes corporal punishment they can overturn it?

In the States we have federal laws State laws county laws and city laws . If a foreigner breaks any of them he answers to the lawmakers that made the law. A State is not likely to want to challenge a federal law , but I don't think there is a due process for such a challenge .. I could be wrong about how long it will take the federal law to carry out the sentence because I can't think of a powerful group that would appeal in this case
The FBI is more associated with the law enforcement than the penal system. The Department of Justice is in the cabinet of the executive branch

BOSTON -- At 21, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is about to become the youngest, most notorious inmate on federal death row.

After convicting the Russian immigrant last month in the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, a jury on Friday voted to sentence him to death for his role in the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil since Sept. 11, 2001.

But the legal battle over his case is certain to drag on for years before any execution is carried out.

For now he remains in the custody of U.S. marshals in Boston. After sentencing, he will be turned over to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons and eventually deposited at the death house in Terre Haute, Ind., on the banks of the Wabash River.

From there, over the next 10 years or more, his defense team will wage the final fight for his life.

His current defense lawyers, led by widely known anti-death penalty advocate Judy Clarke, failed to persuade jurors to spare Tsarnaev from death row. The next legal battle will be with a new team of appellate lawyers who will try to win, at a minimum, a new hearing on whether life with no parole is the more appropriate punishment.

"It will be a very slow, torturous process," said Charles Ewing, a University at Buffalo law professor.

Interviews with several attorneys and experts on capital litigation suggest there is little chance Tsarnaev will see his conviction set aside. In March, on the first day of his trial, Clarke conceded to the jury that Tsarnaev placed one of the two pressure-cooker bombs near the finish line in April 2013 that helped kill three people and injure more than 260 others.

He and his older brother, Tamerlan, later shot to death an MIT police officer.

But experts say Tsarnaev does have a reasonably good chance of getting the death sentence set aside, based largely on his lawyers' repeated requests to move the trial out of Boston. The defense contended for months last year that the Boston community was too deeply scarred and that no local jury could give him a fair and impartial trial. The judge refused to hold a hearing on the matter, and an appellate court declined to intervene.

The Tsarnaev appellate team also may have a shot at vacating the death sentence if they can show the judge did not properly instruct the jurors, specifically in not telling them that if they deadlocked it would not result in a new trial. A deadlock would have meant a life sentence, but some jurors may not have understood that.

"The best would be to get him a new punishment phase," said John Blume, a Cornell University law professor and director of the school's Death Penalty Project

"There have been other cases that sometimes produce a death sentence because some jurors were leaning toward life and the other jurors beat them up (verbally) and said, 'If we don't do this, if we don't do our duty and give him death, another jury will have to listen to this brutal, gory testimony.'"

Tsarnaev's appellate lawyers also could challenge the constitutionality of the death penalty and question whether his trial attorneys performed effectively.

Because this is a federal death penalty case, an appeal is automatic. It begins with an initial request to the judge for a new trial. It ends when the execution date is near, with a plea for commutation from the president.

A sentencing hearing is expected within about two months, and because the judge cannot reduce the sentence, much of that proceeding will be courtroom theater.

Prosecutors said they are reviewing lists of survivors and relatives of the dead to choose which ones will offer victim-impact testimony.

Tsarnaev, who did not testify at his trial and has shown no public remorse, would have one last opportunity to speak.

According to the Death Penalty Information Center, a Washington-based policy group that tracks capital punishment, there were 61 inmates on federal death row as of March 24.

Since the reinstatement of the federal death penalty in 1988, 74 defendants have been sentenced to death, and three have been executed. Through legal appeals, another 10 have been transferred off death row.

Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was convicted in 1997 and executed in 2001. He had a short time on death row because he dropped all appeals and asked to be put to death.

The last federal execution was in 2003, when decorated 1991 Gulf War veteran Louis Jones Jr. was executed for killing a young female recruit.

Three inmates -- members of a violent Richmond, Va., street gang -- have been on death row since 1993, another sign of the slow process from the courtroom to the death chamber. The process is filled with legal appeals, psychological examinations, DNA testing, the search for new evidence and other twists as defense lawyers try anything to keep their clients from that final trip to the chamber.

Sorry about the over posts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

He's not a foreigner...he's a USA citizen....

Http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/tsarnaev-could-stay-on-death-row-for-years/ar-BBjTsJ7

The above article is interesting and if the link does not work look above in one of my overposts

Yes....well I was able to read the link now...here's one for you...

http://www.vocativ.com/usa/nat-sec/boston-marathon-bomber-dzohokar-tsnarnaev-mother/

remember...her two sons were American citizens...

Shocking

She's just a mother Michael...a mother who's already lost one son...

please listen to this.the sound isn't the best but...it's a mother who lost her son by execution also...In this case...by firing squad...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-09/funeral-for-bali-nine-myuran-sukumaran-in-sydney/6457238

Yeah it sickens me that this country hasn't gotten rid of capital punishment yet. Not only does it go against my morals (which, I understand are not everyones) but it's overall going to be more expensive than if he was sent to prison for life.
The appeals process alone will last for a very long time, and constantly bring him back up in the news. Not to mention, the process is expensive, so now the government will be paying for it. For the victims, this means there is no finality now that he's been sentenced. He will continue to exist in their lives on the media, they can continue to monitor his case.... it's a mess.
The parents of the 8 year old boy who died specifically asked that he not be given the death sentence for these exact reasons.

Excellent presentation, Michael.

The Federal government rarely steps into what would have been a state murder case, but in this instance it is a terrorist situation covered by Federal Law.

Although I cannot justify it legally or even socially, yet I've felt murderers, even mass murderers, should be forced to replace those they have killed to the extent possible. Even under lock and key, they should make reparation for the rest of their lives.

I grew up believing the fifth commandment was thou shalt not kill ,not aware that others believe it is the sixth and worded thou shalt not murder
https://youtu.be/t9Da3Q-QT00

According to the things that I've read, he didn't show any signs of remorse. And there's just no use giving him the chance of life when he so blatantly showed disregard for it, in my opinion.

I watched several trials on YT, but I never questioned the FBI on this one

http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-bombing-feds-admit-no-evidence-tsarnaev-brothers-involved-in-the-slayings/5419197

This alleged statistic is interesting though it does not make terrorism any less terrible
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/08/youre-nine-times-likely-killed-police-officer-terrorist.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/youre-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-toddler-than-a-terrorist.html

Law Enforcement and terrorist do exactly what they are trained to do

https://youtu.be/ikNwLERoI5A

According to the Boone County Sheriff's Department, Deputy Greg Tanner was on patrol with Enzo around 5:15 p.m. and he went to a Tire Discounters to get his cruiser tire serviced.

The deputy removed the dog from the cruiser on a 4-foot lead, officials said, and when Felicia Broach, 28, walked within proximity of the leash, the dog bit her.

Broach suffered an injury to her ear and was taken to UC Medical Center for treatment, Boone County Sheriff Tom Scheben said.

A decision was made to put down Enzo.

On Wednesday, the Boone County Sheriff's Office posted this statement:

We are saddened to announce the fact we had to put one of our canines, Enzo, down on Tuesday, November 25, 2014. Working canines and their handlers form inseparable partner relationships not only on-duty but while at home as well. We wanted to give Deputy Greg Tanner and his family time to grieve the loss before making it public but are now forced to since someone contacted WLWT and they felt the need to run with it.

The decision to put Greg's partner down was not an easy one made hastily or without much consideration. We deliberated all possible scenarios before coming to our difficult decision. All we ask is that you keep Greg and his family in your thoughts as they face this holiday season without their loved one.

Http://nodisinfo.com/absolute-proof-boston-bombing-was-a-staged-hoax/

Sorry....someone sent me this link and I just wanted to post it here to see what you thought of it....didn't have time to add a comment but,now I have. Surely this can't be true?

I am biased in favor of it would be impossible to stage a fake bombing at an annual sporting event and select the spectators . The repeating of the no blood was presumptive that the speculator knew how much of the rapidly expanding hot gases from the pressure cooker bomb could have cauterized the large arteries in a fraction of a second on a very low resolution still shot that had been photo shopped to meet standards for the general public. The public that can't bear the thought that terrible things happen to people that are not relieved by death immediately.

https://youtu.be/zo5Sp5jNPzo

I'm not saying I believe this Michael...just being objective and interested in others thoughts.

I am biased in favor of it would be impossible to stage a fake bombing at an annual sporting event and select the spectators
^^^

As you say it was "an Annual Event" so, much easier to 'prepare' a fake bombing IMO.

I'm not sure of how much gas a pressure cooker would omit on explosion but...there was no sign of it (the cooker) in the picture so...wouldn't he have to have been sitting right on top of it for it to cauterize anything? I don't really think there would have been enough gas to have cauterized such a large injury anyway.

Another link I've read suggests that the man who appears to have lost his legs here bares a striking resemblance to a war victim from the Afghan war...

I understand that you are just being opened minded . :)
The cauterization was just one of the possibilities why he found a photo of legs missing without seeing blood . We are assuming that the guy was not drug from the site where his legs were blown off like the many soldiers that return home missing several limbs. Imagine the training it takes to stop bleeding within two minutes in the other known cases.

The cooker is ripped to pieces within a fraction of a second after detonation

Imagine being a fan of the annual Boston Marathon and returning home after witnessing an unremarkable event and seeing the news, saying to your self where in the hell was I while all this was happening.

Sorry...not buying the pressure cooker theory...:)
I don't know if you watched the whole video clip from my link but, they stretchered a woman with obvious minor injuries compared to his while he is very visible still lying on the ground...a pool of blood surrounding him eventually!

It's just my reaction to exhaust all possibilities . You were not around when I took the heat for repeating the conspiracy theories about why the pentagon had a drill proposing the scenario of a terrorist hijacking a plane and crashing it there the day it happened on 9/11/01

http://911proof.com/9.html

I am approaching this with the thought that things are not always easily explained even when I recall a traumatic event I witnessed people in panic are not always ready to believe what is happening and often do irrational things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_cooker_bomb

https://youtu.be/sbR6vHXD1j0

I think...in general..people are disbelieving that such things can happen in their community and instantly look for someone to blame...(not necessarily the right person). The conspiracy theory has been tacked on to too many disasters on American soil for the world to ignore....IMO

I was about 7 when the first Kennedy JFK was killed and the word patsy is burned into my brain

https://youtu.be/sbR6vHXD1j0

https://youtu.be/HYgkJ0BATi8

Well.that was the first 'conspiracy' theory that emerged in my lifetime that I'm aware of and...I believe to be true to some extent..so...if the president can look to have been assassinated in 1963 but wasn't really what can we do with today's technology?

I used to argue with my brother -in law about the way CNN had to sneak around( to the point he got angry )about that we only get information we are fed. Even things that the politics are not so obvious. I kept waiting to find out if the seven astronauts that (I saw seven hearses on CNN carry to Dover or wherever) I kept saying that they were alive when they splashed down . Years latter I heard that an engineer wanted to design an ejecting cabin in the event a malfunction occurred while the shuttle was still in the earths atmosphere and NASA refused to spend the money and take the time .

Larry....regarding this comment from you..

yet I've felt murderers, even mass murderers, should be forced to replace those they have killed to the extent possible. Even under lock and key, they should make reparation for the rest of their lives.

I'm not sure if the families of the victims of any type of murder would agree with you here but...let's look at the two Australians who were executed (by firing squad) in Indonesia recently for drug trafficking (not smuggling drugs into Indonesia...trying to get them out) they had spent 10 years making reparations ...one became a pastor the other an artist. Both were involved in programs to aid other prisoners...both had very definitely reformed in that 10 year period...both had definitely 'made reparations' and yet they were both shot dead as is the way of execution in Indonesia. So...in your country...if the Boston Bomber (who actually killed people 'apparently" ) reparations within the period it will take for a final decision to be made...should his life be spared?

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=x-5_2fZLilQ

One of the most powerful images of an execution I recall is Martin Sheen portraying Eddie Slovik praying the Hail Mary at he hour of his death

"Edward Donald "Eddie" Slovik (February 18, 1920 - January 31, 1945) was a United States Army soldier during World War II and the only American soldier to be court-martialled and executed for desertion since the American Civil War.
Slovik was charged with desertion to avoid hazardous duty and tried by court martial on 11 November 1944. Slovik had to be tried by a court martial composed of staff officers from other U.S. Army divisions, because all combat officers from the 28th Infantry Division were fighting on the front lines.[2] The prosecutor, Captain John Green, presented witnesses to whom Slovik had stated his intention to "run away". The defense counsel, Captain Edward Woods, announced that Slovik had elected not to testify. At the end of the day, the nine officers of the court found Slovik guilty and sentenced him to death."

"An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind"

Mohandas Gandhi? Louis Fischer? Henry Powell Spring? Martin Luther King?

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=142840

Few care about death sentences http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=142840
The legal limit for minors in Kentucky is .02 , A decision was made in less than 30 seconds to take a life

https://youtu.be/dFaNQZWwojQ