#freethenipple ? Your thoughts.

  • Ben Pickard
    9 years ago

    Good God. We all have opinions, don't try to change the subject - you were being rude because I didn't agree with yours. And yes, men and women are to blame for the oversexed image in society right now. Neither one more than the other. We ALL have to take responsibility. Right from the start, your first post was brash, offensive and not in line with adult discussion. Everyone has different opinions, but we do not have to stamp our feet and use childish "lmaos" or "Dead Dead Dead" to get ours across. You resorted to insults which is a weak way to argue any point.
    Bye

  • Ben Pickard
    9 years ago

    And just looking over your first post, how dare you insinuate "western society" views blame the showing of flesh on rape. No decent, normal human being excuses rape because a woman is showing her boobs and very few blame it on that. I've heard that whole "show your boobs and your asking for rape" nonsense but that is NOT the typical western view. That very first commnet is entirely out of line and massively offensive - comments like that do nothing but demean a very important subject (feminism - not free the f-ing nipple)

  • Yakari Gabriel
    9 years ago

    :)

  • Ben Pickard
    9 years ago

    :)

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    Purely Platonic [Collab with Michael D nalley]

    by Yakz

    Purely platonic with no regard for an age
    Having poetic passion for sharing an art
    Though separated by time we are on the same page
    While meter is on our mind, love is in our heart

    Purely platonic Love
    has set us free
    Though we find ourselves
    Locked in the same room
    feeling the freedom within our souls

    Beauty rests peacefully in the beholders eyes
    The truth is a wonder we would never hide
    There is no sin in honesty, only in the lies
    Our purest thoughts are most often, side by side.

    Right there, when I look back
    I hear, I feel the silence That loudly takes place
    Telling me, that there is absolutely nothing wrong, When it's love
    even if it's platonic
    to the heart that's enough

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    Ben I have read a lot more of your poems than I have commented on and I will be free to tell you why very soon.

    I want to share a funny true story

    About seven years ago in the heat of the summer I ran out of hickory for my smoker I used professionally on an air force base where I was employed for about 25 years . I was told by someone I thought had authority there was an area on the base I could get some . Some of the dead wood was too large to hall so I brought my ax to make it easier to transport . I did not think anything about removing my shirt less from a quarter mile from a beach . Soon a security police was asking me why I was half naked. I told him that I felt on the verge of a heat stroke and thought it would be safe thirty feet from the road in the woods. The security police advised me to return to the place I was employed but after I put my shirt back on he allowed me to collect the dead wood lol

    I dared not do my Austin Powers impression

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsnEIjgqW7A

  • Ben Pickard
    9 years ago

    That is a funny story Michael. But as far as this thread is concerned, I want to leave it there. My point's been made, and I don't want animosity with anyone. Thanks all for the discussion.

  • Larry Chamberlin
    9 years ago

    ^"Either way, this is as larry said, an entirely banal subject that has no place in a poetry forum"

    Ben, please do not put your words in my mouth.
    I said the campaign was false to true feminism & got too much publicity, but I certainly never said it had no place on PnQ.

    Point of fact, I cannot think of a topic that has no place in a free & open discussion. While I agree that people should abide by rules of the forum and avoid personal attacks, the mere subject of a forum should not be censored.

    Regarding breastfeeding in public: I have zero tolerance for the hostility met by mothers who do so. It is the most natural act of motherhood and carries no sexual overtones except to the most warped minds. There should be no restrictions on it.

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    I can't resist another anecdote. When I was in my mid life crisis I patronized a bar call the City Limits just to socialize and not drink . There was a bar close by called the Sugar Shack that featured a wet T shirt contest and I sometimes went there to give someone a ride wink wink . One night there were no females willing to enter so the DJ offered a fifty dollar prize to any male that would compete with two other males in a pair of boxer shorts . Guess who tied for first place lol

  • Larry Chamberlin
    9 years ago

    *.*

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    I am still in touch with Emily Litella and asked her to send me a commentary

    "What's all this fuss about free ripple, isn't it cheap enough already ?

    I sent her a text
    Emily! Use your screen magnifier

    she responded "that's very different .....nevermind "

  • Larry Chamberlin
    9 years ago

    Church Lady, SNL

  • Colm
    9 years ago

    Darren must have dove into my mind and stole my thoughts and posted them, because I think his post hits the nail on the head in a number of ways.

    Overall, the free the nipple campaign is essentially stupid for the mentioned reasons, and I'm no expert on feminism but it seems to be a misrepresentation, or a campaign by a few people trying to lump it under the banner of feminism.

    The root of a lot of the issue comes down to two things: nature and economics. Males are wired differently, so it shouldn't come as a surprise if men look at a woman who dresses provocatively, for example. And of course sex sells, there is obviously a market for playboy, attractive actresses help sell movies, etc. so businesses and companies are going to use these things as their aim is to make profit. Some women and some men are to 'blame' for this. Practically everybody on here is talking sense, and it is an interesting issue.

    Then again, I do think that equality has progressed (in many ways) when you compare it to many parts of the world where women really are treated as second class citizens, or worse. Or to how it was in the past. No society is perfect but lets just say I'd prefer to be a woman in western society than in other societies.