Issues - Kate and Alex

I dont fight with him or seek him out in any way.

I only defend myself.

He is carrying this on and I dont know why.

Just drop it Alex, I wont bug you for personal shit.

He's got nothing better to do and he thinks it's manly.

Seriously it's like trying to watch an evening footy game with one 40 watt bulb to light the pitch sometimes.

lol. He is following me around!!!

I have not addressed him without him addressing me first. If he stops, trust me, I would be happy to never have a personal issue with him again.

Why am I the one to solve this???

I wont stop posting, that's not the answer.

Alex can get over his personal issues, because I dont have any with him. I will always retort comment, but I will not personally attack a post he makes just because its by him.

I think it Alex has a crush on K and is manifesting it through rebellion.

All he needs to do is read me and drop it.

He is singling ME out, not the other way around. I dont need to stop anything, because I'm not starting anything.

And you implied that I stop posting becuase you said my posting caused the trouble. Its not my fault he feels like staulking me at the moment.

Grudges arent my thing. I dont hold it against people I have disputes with.

Sounds like you've been down the Aigburth Arms for a little while too long.

I know you werent lashing out at me. I would have lashed out if I felt that way, because I do defend myself.

The reason Alex doesnt like me is because I am American, but also because we have differing views (judgements) about sexuality, especially in younger girls.

And considering neither of you KNOW ME, it is ignorant to say that it is fair to dislike me or take up personal issue because I am American. What my country does and WHO I AM are two very different thins.

And Aimz is his girlfriend.

I dont think I'm all knowing. I'll say that right now, so you can say that but the point is unarguable, because I admit I dont.

And its not ME that has the problem with you people. I have told you before, you dont like my posts, dont read them. Thats my advice for you. And if you think that I will take shit and not clear up my position because someone is ignorant or has personal issue, you should try it yourself. Its not as easy to suck up ignorance or even stupidity as it seems. And he isnt pissing me off, if he were pissing me off I would be swearing at him and not laughing. He is getting angry. I just think its ridiculous.

I have never called him childish, not that I dont think he may be sometimes, but hey, we all have our moments.

I dont have personal issue, and I wont single him out, but I will defend myself.

And if you're not angry you can knock off the incessant cursing.

You'd think people could tell when Im joking or not.. ho hum.

And I dont deserve the brunt of every person angry at America. I could be the citizen of any country and still be ME, and anyone can be American. Its so irrelevant.

And Alex, you just like the attention this thread is giving you.

Everyone knows where I stand, I'm not going to participate in this bull much longer because it really has no purpose. Ganging up on me isnt going to solve anything here. If you guys want this fight to stop throughout the boards, Alex needs to stop following me around and disputing every post I make strictly because I made it and I am American. Thats the only way this thing will end; because like I said, I will defend myself, but this petty shit should just end.

It's times like these that make me wish I was American.

Shit is casual. Fuck is not.

I'm not getting angry, but this is, in fact, petty bull shit.

If I said, "THIS IS FUCKING PETTY BULL SHIT YOU FUCKING BITCH," that would be angry.

But I'm not saying that :)

And discrimination isnt allowed in the boards, so targeting and harassing Americans is not only shallow, but breaking the forum rules.

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I dont swear very much.

If a mod sees fit to delete it, that would be their right. However your boyfriend seems to be the one with the dirtier mouth:

"well u r opinionated
fuckin bitch"

Heaven forbid I have an opinion. Everyone else does.

I am just as entitled to mine as he is. This is shallow and ridiculous, he's just doing it for attention.

I didnt say anything nasty about him. I said the truth. He is singling me out.

And I always defend myself. I dont crave negative attention, I get enough positive attention as it is. Enough people know me and like me on the boards that the last thing I NEED or WANT is to participate in personal fights. Thats not why I post here.

When compared to base ignorance of my countrymen, yes being American would be preferable over anything compared to a senseless bigot.

The worst thing I have ever called Alex is a dipshit, and I was showing him how to get creative, because "fucking bitch" was getting worn out.

You said this:

"He did not start this post and he did not join it until you started to make nasty comments about him. Therefore you seem to be the shallow one."

I did not insult him ON THIS THREAD. I insulted him back on other threads, and I admit to that. I never denied insulting him EVER. Therefor, I am not a hypocrit because I never denied that. Getting bored of trying to get me caught in inconsistancies?

I didnt lie. I never said I have NEVER insulted him. I have. I respond when provoked, I admit to that. But he did NOT join in THIS thread because I insulted him. He, on the contrary, does what you accused me of, seeking attention by provocation

I have never personally singled him out for the sake of doing so because he posted something that is irrelavent to the topic at hand.

Let your boyfriend speak for himself, he doesnt need a mouth piece, although your loyalty is admirable.

This isnt a debate, this is an attention seeking game of provocation and judgement.

Debates have intellectual standing and logic. This has none.

If he wants to staulk me, thats his modus operandi. I am not out to make anyones forum experiance uncomftorable.

The two people I have done rounds with that have not come down to a misunderstanding are Alex and All Done, those are the only two people that have PERSONAL issues with me. Whats funny is that we dont know each other, so this topic is a waste of energy for all of us.

I dont have personal issues with people. I dont know any of you with an exception of a few who I have talked with outside the boards.

Great, hope you get bored of stalking/ harassing me too.

Hope that this came to some sort of conclusion.

Thank you. Spelling is an issue for me (thats not to say its my only one ;) ).

sooo... r we done? lol

Hopefully

Amen.

alex, what was the point of that?

bret i thought you were cool and yr sayin you want to b an american you disappoint me

Actually I was implying that you, as a Brit, disappoint me. I guess that flew right over the roof tops too sunshine. I think you're disrespectful, conceited, rude, arrogant, bigotted and generally not nice to be around. But please, feel free to prove me wrong.

Everyone is more than entitled to their opinion.

But how did this involve you at all? Stay out of it. You dont know the background, so your comment offers no validity. YOU dont know ME. I dont know YOU. Dont pass personal judgements on something you know NOTHING about. That would make you the ignorant one, not me. I dont act like I know any of you people or that you are bad or good. That judgement is not mine to make.

I could just as easily refute your argument with the fact you are ignorant for not doing your homework and say that you make all Americans look like idiots, but I wont say that because I am sure you are a nice and smart girl. I dont know enough about you to say that.

So why did PERSONALLY attacking me make you feel better and why was it called for when you know nothing about me?

The ONLY thing I ever accused him of is SINGLING ME OUT, and I said that I responded when provoked. I have never singled him out except for when this issue manifested, but you would not know that because you werent there from the beginning.

And not that it matters too terribly much, but when people address you, its nice for them to spell your name right, Abbey.

And Alex and I came to some sort of a conclusion, not that the boy doesnt hold a grudge, he said he may continue the personal vandetta, but at least we got somewhere. You dont need to come in and stir the pot.

That was the point- gold star for you!!!

A little devils advocate anyone?

Anyway, Alex's and my personal business is no one elses. We settled it, so why doesnt everyone let this thread die. It is pointless.

If people keep insulting me without reason I will come back. I'll admit that I'm not THAT big a person. I will defend myself when provoked. Its ridiculous to expect me not to.

This isnt your business, keep out of it :)

I know, which was slightly irritating, but this is a public board.

The only reason that I copped an attitude is because I have never seen you before, you dont know the whole story, so your personal comments were not only insulting but unwarranted and ignorant. I am sure you are a nice girl, and you are a good poet by the way, but it just helps if people stay out of personal issues, because this one had no reason to arise in the first place. I'm not trying to continue any grudges. I have no problem with Alex. I dont know him.

I live on the West coast, Portland OR. What about you?

Sorry :(

I dont. My connection gets wacky on me when I do IM.

How do you like it there? One of my friends just moved from there to OR. He said that it was awesome there, and that it rains too much here, lol.

But we have had record highs here lately, it was pretty hot today. That depresses me, because I am more of a rain person. Kinda cooky, I know...

He moved from Iowa to here. He said it was really flat there, lol.

Anyway, I love OR because its got the best of the best, everything is within 2 hours, beach, mountain, desert, and then its nice and green in Portland.

I would love to chat more, but my sis is here to pick me up. Hope to catch up with you sometime.

Loves

I have to post my opinion here, this seems like it's become more racial than anything.
I myself am American, I don't agree with our government or all of our foreign policies. But, I can't do anything about it...YET. don't blame all Americans for some people's actions. You have a right to an opinion Alex and Aimz as does Kaitlin. Though racism makes you seem ignorant, and people only call names when they have nothing better to say...

I'm not trying to start anything, I just had to say this... Listen and absorb, or forget what I said, your choice. Remember, ignorance is a choice.
Y'all be good now ya here!! lol :)
*~*Soldier Lover*~*

LOL... omg.. you people... wait wait.. still laughing.. lol.... ohhh boy... ok ok I think i'm good... No wait.. lol lol.... Are you serious... lol Omg... You people make me laugh... When did it become a crime to voice your opinion... lol ... lol First.. If anything it's between Alex and Kate.. Not the whole freaking world and his girlfriend... O.o i'm sure your Boy friend can defend himself... It's cute and all you want to defend him but please.. Do you ever know Kate.. and you're making it an issue.. lol This is too funny... Kate makes the post more interesting to read... She actually puts thought into what she has to say... lol... sorry i'm still giggle about this... Ahhh kids today... So funny so entertaining... Serious tho.. Just calm down people... jeez... Conflict comes in life.. O.O that's a shocker isn't it... (feel the sarcsasm)

SL: The discrimination is the only thing that I disagreed with about the whole thing. Singling out Americans is ignorant. Singling out specific opinions is a right that everyone has, including Alex.

Abbey: You didnt cause me anger, I just have been on my toes all day from being bashed and defensive, I didnt give it enough thought before I posted and I jumped the gun.

AS: I like to put thought into my posts, at least someone might learn something. Even if it's only grammar ;).

And glad we could make you laugh too :)

Jenni- Discrimination is ignorance. Especially based upon something as superficial as the country of origination or race. That is like saying that every Arab wants to fly into a building and torchers people, based upon their leader and one act of terrorism from a select few people. Generalizations cannot be based upon discrimination, because that is not logical basis.

Anyone can become a citizen of the USA and anyone can become a citizen of the UK.

*But damn, all these ignorant comments from people from the UK is starting to make me believe they are ALL like that.*

See how stupid that is? Because, for instance, knowing Bret, I know that he is not ignorant, so for me to write him off like that because he is from the UK before I even gave him a chance would have been a choice to MY detriment, not his. He is an awesome guy, I would hate to have never given him a chance because other people from where he comes from have shown their ignorance and stupidity.

And ANYONE who thinks discrimination of any kind (especially superficial generalizations) is alright is a dipshit.

I could be from anywhere and still be ME. American is such a small part of who I am in the big scheme of things, and you dont know if I am in support of my countries actions or not, so who are you to judge ME or any other American? No one.

She's away for the weekend.