Moldy and moldy members reunion part deux

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    "that's why I'm so glad I got the opportunity to meet some of the members...and to have a long standing friendship with others who I talk with on the phone.
    "

    Amen to that sweet C!!!! Love ya..

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    "I think I recall another mod claim to notify the authorities and alleged a child predator was caught . I believe skepticism from the average member is because we never seen the due process required to overturn the presumption of innocence . Having said that I recall a mod that defended his screen name with vigor. The banning and suspensions on this site are best not speculated on because of a wide range left to the discretion of any appointed moderator"

    ^^^^^^^what the hell are you talking about?!?!?!? As far as I know all of the ~child molesters~ were turned in!!! Am I wrong? Help me out peeps!!!

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    Child molesting is a serious charge , I know you are joking about the presumption that all accused get convicted . Is there a presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a "court of law" in most of the counties you have been in ?

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    Im not joking!!! Well if you need me to be accurate we had ~predators~ here, not molesters. And let me assure you, the police was involved!!!

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    I trust your word dear poet . I don't want to argue with you about exactly what we are supposed to infer from "police involvement" ...that is a whole other topic ;)

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    Holy mother of god!!! There was a Mod involved with an under aged!!! Wasn't it? I think he even managed to lock out all the Mods at one point.. Back than I was just a humble poet wanna be. hahhahaha

  • Larry Chamberlin
    9 years ago

    I'm going to try an answer here with no assurance it will send, as twice it has failed. I may have to wait until I'm stateside again.

    I agree with all Britt has said.

    1
    There is no head mod. Or perhaps I should say whoever is logged into the mod account is the de facto head mod until they log out, simply because it has additional features most other mod accounts don't have. Our goal is consensus & so far it seems to have worked. There was a period in which I assumed too much and may have overwhelmed some other mods; I regret this behavior and have told them as much.

    2
    I'm not aware of any archive available to any mod, including the mod account, to reveal voting histories. However, I am absolutely certain Bob is correct: Janis has access to it. I say this for two reasons. First, when we had an ersatz vote one week while he was here on his latest visit I asked him if he could tell us where it came from: he could & did (it was me! That's when we realized the risk of scrolling the contest page on a cell phone).
    Second, the recording of votes must be kept in the system or the site could not otherwise "know" if you've already voted for or nominated a poem.
    Unfortunately the identity of unsporting down voters will have to wait for Janis' next visit. The question has already been asked of him, so it's only a matter of time.

    3
    To my knowledge, the only police-related predator dealt with since mid-2011, was about 4 years ago when we got a PM complaint. The PM was so bizarre that I followed up on it to discover a 26~ year-old felon on parole had seduced a 16-year old member and had coerced & bullied her into a highly abusive relationship. After discussing it with Sherry we tracked the police at both locations (his & hers) and he was arrested, with her parents pressing charges. We don't know what happened to him after that & her parents closed the girl's account.

    4
    Lebanese Phoenix is an active member under his own name and has not appeared in this thread.

    5
    If this thread is indicative of "the good old days" of PnQ, then IMHO you're welcome to them.

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    5
    If this thread is indicative of "the good old days" of PnQ, then IMHO you're welcome to them

    I agree Larry the Members Message forum seemed to reflect a buzzing site , but there were many times I did not feel welcome

    I want to let the sleeping dogs lie , without cherry picking memories ,modly or moldy lol

    Holy mother of god!!! There was a Mod involved with an under aged!!! Wasn't it? I think he even managed to lock out all the Mods at one point.. Back than I was just a humble poet wanna be. hahhahaha

    I did not think it through saying a former mod, that is much more narrow in numbers than former member . I was not referring to anyone that anyone remembers well lol

    http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=52965

    http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=52717

  • abracadabra
    9 years ago

    Hello, you guys! A for Effort, but I'm with Larry. This bickering is pretty dull, especially for newbies. Let's get a fresh juicy topic and see what happens. Excited to see you all again.

    The best part of the current mod team is that it doesn't actually feel like a regime. Almost everything is transparent, members are respected, mods are fair and playful, apologies and decisions are made together. Much more progressive and fearless than the old days.

    And there were plenty of quiet periods under the old regime, trust me. I remember practically a whole year when there was nothing on this board but a series of Happy Birthday threads. Until someone from The Club came up and got their thread instantly locked, it was often dead.

  • Anna Stephens
    9 years ago

    5

    "If this thread is indicative of "the good old days" of PnQ, then IMHO you're welcome to them"

    Well Larry, at least for one afternoon this site didn't feel like a morgue.

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    Ken, right? It was him....
    Michael, you can pull up these old threads pretty fast eh!?!?! hahaha

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    "Well Larry, at least for one afternoon this site didn't feel like a morgue."

    Wot?!??!?! hahahaha You go girl!!!

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    Ken, right? It was him....

    Michael, you can pull up these old threads pretty fast eh!?!?! hahaha

    Yes my point was that Ken is just a screen name and any sane predator would have gladly taken a ban rather than push the mods to contact law enforcement in my humble opinion

    "Members were sharply divided on how it got into the so called court of PQ opinion ."

    "Michael, you can pull up these old threads pretty fast eh!?!?! hahaha"
    Asperger Syndrome symptoms

    ''The Whole Story''

    http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=52965

  • Bob Shank
    9 years ago

    Hello, you guys! A for Effort, but I'm with Larry. This bickering is pretty dull, especially for newbies. Let's get a fresh juicy topic and see what happens. Excited to see you all again.

    ^um to whom are you addressing this to, from my stand point I only saw one bickering and maybe others trying to fuel the fire, but until it got ignorant with the false accusations and name calling, the thread was harmless...(funny what some deem going too far and what others deem harmless banter isn't it) .so yeah, to whom is this directed at....a question was asked, and we tried to answer it honestly , and to be honest just by the responses, the theme regime hasn't changed all that much , just the names. People don't realize the work involved until they've been there and have had to deal with the crisis after crisis, they have it made now of course, because for the most part the board activity is pretty mute......now you can attribute that to more club involvement, or attribute it to just plain old lack of participation...I also like how it was brought up that "the club " was treated unfairly on the boards.....wow, we are still stuck in the past aren't we.....anyhow, glad those days are over and this is a new "regime".....i don't have the time or the energy to participate as much as I use to, and that's probably a good thing .

  • Anna Stephens
    9 years ago

    No it isn't a "good thing,Bob". I know you wish it could be
    but it just isn't. The fact of the matter is that you were and still are the GLUE and I know that you don't want to wear that mantle anymore and for very good reasons. But the fact also is that you can't shed that mantle so DEAL WITH IT

    respectfully,
    coot

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    Crazy Glue!!! ~laughs~

  • Hellon
    9 years ago

    Who told you that? lol There is not one thing you can do on this server or any other one that is not recorded...

    ^^^^

    You did Illumi.

    After all you are the queen of shit-stirring!!!

    ^^^

    Well, someone has to bare the title now...pass me my crown :)

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    "Who told you that? lol There is not one thing you can do on this server or any other one that is not recorded...

    ^^^^

    You did Illumi."

    Really, back than I wasnt into IT as much, Im sorry for my ignorance. Maybe what I was trying to say is that we, Mods cant see that..?

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    "There is not one thing you can do on this server or any other one that is not recorded..."

    Finding it is a whole other story lol

  • Michael D Nalley
    9 years ago

    I found a button on facebook that lets you see your own edit history lol

  • Hellon
    9 years ago

    So next time before your little fingers type, put on a kangaroo barbecue and think!

    ^^^

    Maybe you need to take a dose of you own advice!

    Bro or should I say DD, you need to see a Psychiatrist

    ^^^^

    That comment was just downright rude, totally uncalled for and way below the belt.

  • Koan
    9 years ago

    ~laughs~ I think my job is done here for you have just prove my original point

  • Hellon
    9 years ago

    What was your original point again? Oh...was it how you and Bob (as mods) deliberately picked on members to provoke a fight?

    Saying someone, who has already admitted they are dyslexic, needs to see a psychiatrist is just down right rude and..I called you out on that..nothing to do with deliberately provoking you...just calling you out on your rudeness.

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    Thought there is no Britt to warn him. But after Ann tells me: "and you're still bitching "
    then by responding: ...but at least I am not one!" I get warning
    Even though I only projected HER WORD indirectly without the use of that word, back.

    Her being Diplomatic material is accurate. Why didn't I see it myself?: She doesn't need to join the gangs who all together are taking bites at a single person, straight forward; she only stands aside and interjects her bias, by legitimizing them in greeting the aggressors, while they are aggressing, and then by warning the victim defending himself.

    What is more diplomatic then this?

  • Britt
    9 years ago

    Hey now, I haven't even read this thread since that awful comment was posted. I'm not on all day. And let's be honest, there are some members posts that I completely skip over for fear my eyes will bleed.

    Luckily I'm not the only mod here. I just told you to be nice. I could have deleted what you said or your comment as a whole but I didn't. So pffft to you :p how's that for diplomatic?

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    Hehe o yes it was so awful, it was a crime to humanity.
    the army of one eye solders! These are how the truths reflects in the bias eyes. You had to push on their scale, like they were not preponderating enough.
    It is like to see five people are biting on a guy in an alley and the officer arrived, giving the guy ticket for making too much noise. That would tell you something about the integrity of that officer, wouldn't that?
    Everything is mafia around here.
    You know, in the end of the day it is you who have to live with your conscience, I am just a passenger, a tiny speck in the spectacle of your life. Take bob's extreme example as your internal advisor: In one stage, there would be no Psalms in the world, that on your P&Q's profile going to help.

    And if I were you I wouldn't pffft too much in front of that dog of yours.

  • Hellon
    9 years ago

    Dd...do you have a ponytail or is that a shadow on your avatar??

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    I always do, except right now. That pic is four years old a priori to my father's departure. I am more silver now as the result. I do not have Photoshop on my unbroken laptop to minimise a recent ones.

    Bytheway who is this dd guy??
    he must be a ccoooooll fellow. Do I ever get to meet him??

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    By the way Illu I am always nice with you, why should you go say such thing? I am asking, knowing you needed it. I always defended you in front of those who said that you did(need to see a psychiatrist). But I let it go, what friends are for!
    Well as I said: you needed it, because you had nothing else to say.
    This brings me to what Abby once said to you, some thing to this affect: How did a person like you ever get to be a mod in this site?!
    Well.. hmm, if bob did, or that guy who locked all the mods out..., why not you??
    Honestly I liked you when you were. Don't ask me why though nowadays!
    Okay one reason: even you were wobbling, but you were not mean like bob. You never sold your heart totally.
    So if I were you, I wouldn't attach my name too much to Bob's, regardless I know, psychologically, you need your Alpha man, to stand on your feet.

  • Hellon
    9 years ago

    By the way Illu I am always nice with you, why should you go say such thing? I am asking, knowing you needed it. I always defended you in front of those who said that you did. But I let it go, what friends are for

    ^^

    He said you needed to see a psychiatrist...I called him out on that and yet you stand by him? Well you know what...going back to the original theory...you are one and the same person.....

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    Thanks Hellon , evidently you are the only friend left for me in this site.

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    By the way Ben, I heard you, and sorry for shaking the calm in this place. There are always some pus to come out in order to heal. If not they would stay there no matter how long passed. There is no expiring date on rising to the oppressors or the abusers.
    See the Bill Cosby case: they are coming out after 30 years, and even though one might say they were in different nature, but abuse is abuse, and the mechanism to deal with them, is always the same ( haha watch the Dr. Phil)

    You might ask why only me. the answer is Fist, I got it the worst, because I fought the most. Also most of the rest, are all gone. They are those who where populating this site exceeding 130 people whenever we logged in . And the few still left, they have suppressed the pain so much, they even do not know they are depressed because of it. These are those who practiced Ingrid's' let bygone be bygone's' motto, by suppressing their pains, fearing expressing them would wind and sand their cosy oases away. But this mechanism is wrong! You cannot sweep everything under the carpet and pretending they are gone. You always have to take responsibility dealing with these issues in either sides.
    Also the forums are for addressing these contention, and practising to be civiler tempesting though them, not just for repeating the cliches of thank you-s and how do do-s, without even meaning them, like phantoms all the times: Where, there is no practice there is no learning, no exercise, no development. We should get rid of our cosy couch addictions already.
    Do not get me wrong, I am very courteous and all about respect and calm. But I am also "A Man for All Seasons": There are times for storms too, otherwise we are mummified in only one gamut .

  • Britt
    9 years ago

    The awful comment I was referring to was his psychiatrist comment, not yours...

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    Okay one point for you. and my hat for your maturity.

  • Bob Shank
    9 years ago

    You know, I'm reading this garbage and I'm trying my best to just not even respond, but this pity party has gone far enough, your slinging my name around like I was the only mod, hell I wasn't even the head mod, the blatant disrespect to me, and other older members on this site is uncalled for , and you want your blatant disrespect to be forgiven because you have a condition, since when does that give any one the right to act ignorant?...there are people on here who suffer from anxiety , depression, bi-polar, among other handicaps, they aren't being disrespectful, with name calling and spewing constant false allegations.....so put it to an end now, or you'll get what you're looking for....You have a problem with me, deal with me through pm, email or telephone, and if you're going to keep lodging these false allegations then show us some facts, not just he said , she said, or what you think, give proof...........so far , all you've done is complain about what has been done to you, but nothing about what you have done , however if one reads what you've written they'd see for themselves, that the same thing you say was done to you, you are doing to others...so by that, it seems like you were treated fairly if that's how you represented yourself.

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    "I'm trying my best to just not even respond"
    not trying good enough. You know you cannot hid your ghoul and I know it and whoever knows, can easily take advantage of it, since you cannot hide behind your mod status and suspend people.
    The rest of what you saying "blatant disrespect to me, and other older members" is just as you saw it rightfully, in the mirror of you self reflect is garbage. I said I was dyslexic only to tell to the guy why those spelling problem, I never expected any consideration for it, on the contrary I've always provoked otherwise. You just telling nonsense as usual.
    Though I am surprised you started the attack before your mafia sign in. Did you call them already?

  • Cindy
    9 years ago

    Good afternoon Britt and Bob. I know quite a few people that are sick or disabled in one way or another but aren't using it as an excuse for special treatment.

    Am I mafia??? Or is that just Kay, Anna, and Alfred??

  • Bob Shank
    9 years ago

    Lmao......

  • Gadfly
    9 years ago

    Here we go, how orchestrated!!

  • Cindy
    9 years ago

    Actually Gadfly I have been signed in for a long time....I was working in my club....so Bob did not orchestrate anything....as long as we got that straight.

    Oh I forgot to say good afternoon to you...sorry