From his image

By the way in class today the teacher was talking about " synthetic a priori perception" that I had no clue, I feel I have been humiliated, should I report this to the board of education?? What do you think??

Now back to Albert Einstein Or his new Identity Deepack chopra

joking is good Kevin I like jokes

Really Larry ?? All these for a "you have no clue" :

"a put down that assumes you have superior knowledge that must be accepted, and says nothing directly about his statement, only your assumption about it" My assumption"?? "Character attacks" (you must be joking. )

[You have the wherewithal to understand my explanations if you choose. I can only bring the horse to water. BTW, I never used the term character attacks, I merely applied the rule.]

You nitpicking me like this after The guy comes and say I suckle the breast of Deepack Chopra and that is not insult and do not make me feel inferior; The use of repugnant language and the fact that he is implying that I have no originality and whatever I say is only suckle on someone's breast, has no bearing on the issue.

[The same as your poker analogy, the suckling on DC's breast was more hyperbole than insult. Unlike your post he merely said "someone" which could have been equally applied to any one of the participants. Also, it's such a common expression that I am surprised you think he came up with it on his on.]

( did silver shoe put you up to this?)

[No, nor did I put her or anyone else up to what ever they may do or say. We are all free agents.]

What about MY feelings Larry?

[Your feelings are not the issue, nor are Kevin's. The issue is the violation of the rules. You asked me to explain them and you do not like my explanations.]

Only because I am not one of the site elites, a member of the site's mafia, have no feelings?

[Please explain with specificity who you believe to be the site elites and site mafia. To my knowledge none such exist. There are people charged with maintaining the policies set by the site owner. That's the mods. We do our best to avoid intervention. There are those whose popularity wax and wane. There are no elites.]

Then when I try to say I am not the guy who has no originality but it is he who does not have even a clue as we were talking about Albert Einstein and Newton and for crying out lowed what that has to do with Deepak Chopra,

[I have no problem with your defense of your own originality. In fact in my analysis I pointed out that your direct challenge to explain his statement was fine. I do have a problem with your violation of the rule cited.]

I am hurting his feeling so bad that you have no chose but to interfere?? Only a lousy no clue?

[Again, his feelings are not the issue. If you have been listening it is your four clear violations of the rule by direct insults within a single the post that I had a problem with.]

Now the rest of them are going to appeared watch: How dare you, to say to Kevin, you have no clue??"

[I will not be silent where my duties require it simply because others may or may not respond.]

You guys are making me laugh.. Where this sentiment suddenly come from?

[Tolerance has its limits.]

As I said we see everything, in the backward mirror my friend you are so blindsided that do not even see his rough attitude.

[Now you accuse me of being "blindsided" which has no bearing on the issue and is a resort to argumentum ad hominem.]

People here lots of times mocked me teased me for my handicap ( dyslexia) called me mental job... and that did not even once trigger any sympathy from you. You never analysed their posts. and show an iota of concern about my feelings of inferiority and insecurity. Where is justice in that? !!!!!

[All of you were involved in a free for all that you each largely created by your own respective comments. If you cannot accept other's rejoinders don't insult them to begin with. My response to that thread was that all of you could keep this type of interaction, because I am not interested.]

You yourself even were malicious about my dyslexia once, and took advantage of it to humiliated me and put me down What about that?

[If I did so I apologize but for the life of me I cannot remember doing so. Please remind me of the specific time that happened.]

Why all the sudden you are so concern about Kevin ( the aggressor) feelings?

[I am not concerned with Kevin or his feelings, you are deflecting the issue of your insults onto him rather than dealing with your own actions. "He did it too" is not a good argument.]

He who called me stupid every time we had conversation, and few times in front of you few years back without me even saying anything.

[I have not seen him call you stupid once. If it happened in your previous membership then Jane is right, you need to let it go. If you came back just to play out old resentments, we don't need that type of interaction. Especially when, with your talent, you have so much positive to offer.]

I do not expect from silver shoe to understand justice in this case because when it come to her team, she has no concern for justice, but what about you? at least think about your conscience.

[The only conscience that bothers me is that I give you so much slack because I feel guilt about how I handled the Nicko-Ddavidd flame war about Charlie Chaplin. Guilt is a part of my nature. I recognize when it affects me but do not often allow it to go against my better judgment. My conscience is clear in this present matter. You have been given more leniency than anyone else on this site. You need to rein in the warfare and stick to constructive dialogue and poetry. All your poems are so heartfelt that you must have much poignancy to express. Even your playful threads, such as how this one started, are fun. If someone seems to insult you, it says more about them than you. However, when you respond with massive retaliation, people do not want to deal with you on an adult-adult level.]

Re: synthetic a priori perception: Kant was a product of his time. Are you moving into Schopenhauer next?

Some hard core conservatives may find the thought of suckling at a breast other than a traditional mother offensive . This is why I say I would make a lousy mod because of Romulus and Remus . Of course under the Roman Catholic rule we would be roasting someone by now . Is satire even allowed in this forum?
http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=82809

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I think Arthur Schopenhauer is germane to the discussion at hand ,but you're still my bro

Different time, different site, different Michael, different others.

Still funny satire.

"different Michael" My name has no meaning without a question Mark . Time is irrelevant to some scripture lol

My Aunt Agnes lead me to John Milton when she told me about asking her students to draw a picture of Michael driving Lucifer out of heaven
and one kid drew Lucifer sitting in a limo with Michael as his chauffer lmao

You see it massive because you are bias and one-sided. You do not see the absurdity of which they attack me and trying to wash their guilt by exaggerating on my side of argument:

But not everyone is like Jane . They, are going to see your nitpicking and 'make a fuss' of a lousy " you have no clue" and giving all the leeway to Kevin, you know!

Why not addressing the real issue?: you escalated again and now are in the same position that you were before the subject of your apology. Now your real Dorian gray face is coming out:

"I am not concerned with Kevin or his feelings, you are deflecting the issue of your insults onto him rather than dealing with your own actions. "He did it too" is not a good argument."
Insult?? you are way out of line my friend!!

Could you enlighten me in what court of law this argument of yours is merit?: You say I have no right to defend myself against the aggressor and if I did it (soooo HURSHLY by saying that YOU HAVE NO CLUE ~~gush look at my cruelty~~) Then in the court of LARRY'S law , I have no argument to defend myself based on the fact that I was not the aggressor and I was defending myself??? And all I am allowed to, is only to address MY side of issue that the court one sided-ly addressed, and leave the aggressor part that you so cleverly swept under the rug, alone?? Larry sorry but this is not law , This is coarseness that I do not think they practiced even in Kangaskhan times.

"I am not talking about if God does exist or does not. I am saying that everything we image, is upside down, because images reflect conversely in the mirrors of our minds."

If evolution exists it reflects the only constant is change
As far as rules of the survival of the fittest ,the link I shared in this thread demonstrate not the members who have not been suspended , most of the mods who have participated on the site of a different time have been suspended . I have been suspend and Noir was one of the most insulting person in the old regime besides Kevin . In the mind control of the members message forum I find it hard to keep up with evolution of man made law, but the laws of nature that evolved life, seem to be in line with" always was and always will be" . The old Kevin was anti Catechism, but denies being against spirituality as long as he approves of the angle it is viewed from . Not unlike the absurdity of conflicting philosophies in search of unity
Re: synthetic a priori perception

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/life/poems.php?id=1246768

See at least one man has an eye on the truth.
Kevin fight is against God not me. And all those who can not resist their inclination all the sudden to swing at me they are corrupted by that appetite . They can not see it because their is nothing to see. They have soled their souls sometimes in the past and they even don't know it. like the obese people they do not know why are all those inclinations to eat all the times, they can not see it is because there are bacteria in their intestine and... that produce chemical in their body.
People always have inclination towards crucifying their own God. They worship him when he is not around , they worship his myth, but if he come again they crucify him again. They crucify him everyday and they do not even know it.

Wait, I "swung" at you because I'm corrupted by appetite and now I'm crucifying God? This is too much. If anyone's swinging, it's not me.

Look at your first post here

Gadfly, ddavid, dear - whatever your name is. Can I just ask why you think it is that you seem to be the only member universally criticized on this site at the moment? Do you really - deep down - believe it to be some childish idea of conspiracy on a Government type level? Like alien cover up and men not landing on the moon, perhaps?
This is a poetry site. Not a forum for lies and deceit practised by the "mafia" mods - a reference that - in spite of myself - made me laugh.
As Silvershoes alluded to - and you did not/could not answer - if this site brings you so much misery and a feeling of such inherent bias, WHY DO YOU keep coming back? Just answer that question before going any further.
All you seem to do is make yourself and others miserable and frustrated, so ask yourself - in that intelligent and philosophical mind of yours that is so prone to analysing the details - is your input here constructive in anyway? I would have thought within that musing mind of yours, you would , by now, have come to the obvious answer: no.
Larry says the moderators have been lenient on you. This is very far from how you interpret their actions. I think they have been overly lenient with you. You need reigning in, you need to learn manners, you need to learn accountability and you need to understand that respect by others is earned and that - so far - you have done nothing to earn yours.
If you like the site, join in, contribute, write POETRY, read and comment, all of which you are more than capable of doing.
If you don't like the site and cannot contribute anything other than hostility, childish ideas of conspiracy or any other negative feedback - leave.
I think your retun to Silvershoes' comment was that you would not reply to it. (An utter lack of respect again) so I will show you the same bad manners and not reply to your return post; not least because I know it will be the ravings of someone who I believe, may just very well be a wind up merchant. I hope that's the case, because the alternative........
All the very best, Dear,
Ben
ps if the above comment is moderated/deleted I accept responsibility - I am ACCOUNTABLE for my own actions and understand that the moderators have rules to apply. I have never, and will not in the future, criticize said mods of a bias or mass conspiracy against me and a vendetta that I simply have no hope of coming up against and prevailing.

Why are you doing that? from the new members you are the only one who seem overly concern about these arguments. But I give you an advise because you are a sweet person. You absolutely do not understand what is really going on under the currents and who is who, and who is connected to whom. And that is not because the lack of intelligent , I believe you have enough of that , I am a good judge of character. I read you before you even know me.
The reason is you haven't develop the eye yet in this site. Everything said in this thread has at least 5 , 6 years bondage attached to it. And you do not see how irrelevant your getting in the middle of this looks like. Have no clue.
It is my advise: Let it be; they work themselves out usually. I say it out of the goodness of my heart, otherwise I do not mind you at all. Feel free to do so These tings started in the beginning because me and Hellon wanted to inject some excitement to the dead forum. Tough it got out of hand. Now all the zombies awaken want to sue me for the death of their grand grand parents. Soon I am going to let them go back to sleep again. I have had it.
I did not mean to seem rued to any of you new guys and if my action seemed like that I apologize it was not the aim. Specially I have some kind of soft spot for these new wave of British talents coming to this site.
My best friend Paul Eachus who was from London passed away recently and that opened a big gap in my heart because he was THE best man I have ever known. and He recites so many of my poems. He was also a professor in Oxford and other places. Here is one of his reciting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWSEi6XV1Vc

This one his wife put in his ceremony and shocked all his family to here his voice and was originally written for the death of my father.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Gjem3BQWU

Some more links if interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLDqZctwWOo

I really was only joking with DDavid. I wanted to see if he could laugh at himself, which I take as a sign of a healthy mind.

Poetry on!

Kevin, I hope no one perceives this as an insult ,but you have always been good at making me laugh

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/deepak_chopra.html

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=78327

Deepak Chopra should not be on a website called "Brainyquote". :)

Spirit quote would be a cool site for spiritualist :)

I'm more of a science geek these days. :)

I still have not mastered humility, nor intelligent design :)

I think the rest of us realize you were being playful, Kev.

Hence, "if someone says something you do not understand, they're an enemy."

It's a shame really. Laughing at oneself is such fun and an attractive quality too. If you don't do it, everyone else will.

Ben, you're spot on with your last post, and Ddavidd, you responded exactly how I expected. So cheers to that I guess.

Michael, the clever jester. Love your posts. Come to think of it, I doubt I've ever heard you say a mean word. Our very own Ferdinand the bull :)

There is a certain attraction in predictability. On the other hand I agree with Jimmy Buffet:

"I travel on the song lines
That only dreamers see
Not known for predictability"

We must learn to see the world anew. - Albert Einstein

It is our job :)

https://youtu.be/EfxXfdgPZSY

Will the phoenix arise once more from the ashes that was ddavidd? I hope so....things will be rather dull if he disappears forever. Stop sulking dd...the entertainment committee needs you :)

Https://youtu.be/xZzEzDkeHzI

I was teasing DD as I welcomed him back with a line from the series theme of Welcome Back Kotter

You're dreams were your ticket out . DD said he had his hand on his ticket as if to say I am not going to be intimidated by any one offended by a comment as cliché as "you have not got a clue" .

The problem with always holding a ticket out is that it is like a hair trigger on a gun: far too easy to use instead of working through the issues, then, when it is used nothing more can be done.

No one asked him to leave, no one told him to close his accounts, he was not penalized, at worst he was chastized by me. I'd like him to come back. I would also like him to keep a single disclosed account, play by the rules and be less defensive.

Yes, of course I know he's reading this post, you did not think it was for anyone here, did you?

I got over the feeling of being over moderated a long time ago
"Someone has been suckling from the breast of Deepak Chopra just a tad too much. :)"
Would likely have been deemed off topic by Kevin when he was a moderator. I am not criticizing the moderation here just making observations based on the thread as if it was unedited . To be honest I don't know enough about Deepak Chopra's "image of God" , but I was always fascinated by how Thomas Merton and the Dali Lama had an understanding of a contemplative meditation. david may have been
a bit passionate about having quoted the guru assuming Kevin intent was not to open old wounds of being misunderstood . Anyway it seems to be acceptable to be anonymous here if you open another account ddavidd . Message forum interest may give you away (Kotter) :)

Michael, you may wish to learn a bit more about Deepak Chopra before you suggest the way I mentioned him in this thread was off topic. Point in case, he regularly debates people on the subjects of religion, philosophy and fringe science and does so in a manner which reminds me acutely of Ddavid.

Watch this video and tell me Ddavid doesn't speak about things in a very similar way to Deepak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UmufmfSLc

ps, you won't know because you were never a Mod but I actually used to argue for less moderation on the boards at a time when other Moderators wanted to throw the book at members with a zeal we've not seen since the dark ages of this website...so, again you may wish to check your facts old boy.

pip pip.

:)

I somehow got the idea that you have worked with people who are much farther into the autism spectrum than anyone with a degree has ever said that I am . I watched your youtube but feel many people could write a book on what I don't know about Deepak so I will follow your advice and refrain from praise or condemnation of his opinions :)

Not sure why you are mentioning your autism bro, it has nothing to do with what I said.

Well, thank you Dr. Murray I will try not to blame ASS Asperger Syndrome Symptoms for my natural ability to ignore scientific Bots programed to convince everyone that they need professional help when mostly what they need is an attitude adjustment . I don't think the world has the resources to program everyone so I still like basic spiritual indoctrinations :)
"Call it a stylistic comparison. :)"

Each justice or judge of the United States shall take the following oath or affirmation before performing the duties of his office: "I, ___ ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as ___ under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God."

I also had the idea you have more in common with Chris Hitchens than any guru lol

It almost does feel like a different site than ten years ago . I feel mentally fit for having held on to my original account while pushing the limits lmao
http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=16889

author: Larry Chamberlin the Godfather
status: moderator
date: 2015.11.05 00:21

[ post answer ]

"Different time, different site, different Michael, different others.

Still funny satire."

Can I ask why you keep posting links to 10 year old discusisons? Really, be as specific and honest as you can.

I am not trying to think for anybody . I thought it would be plain to you that I was showing how the archives are incomplete because of deleted accounts . I have not had my coffee yet so I may edit in more after I run a few errands

ah coffee

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=78327

The first thread I posted as in your phrase "keep posting " was where you invited me to start a new thread , it was not unusual for me to feel like a duck in a chicken coop ,because I was going through a renewal of indoctrination . I chalked up to my Aspergers Symptoms that I could not tell from the post whether mods were teasing or genuinely showing human emotion on a poetry site .... imagine that

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=82809

I am confessing I felt picked on, But I brought the wrath of the members and the mods down on me in the Ten commandments thread, because I could not respond under pressure lol

author: Kevin Murray
status: member
date: 2007.05.26 13:24

[ post answer ]

"Rather than waste my time explaining the easy rules, which almost everyone understands without explanation, why don't you post the ones you are having trouble with Micheal.'

I will explain them for you.

Ps, I'm not your friend Micheal because I do not trust you."

We were in the same club since you joked about our trust issue so I feel comfortable having this discussion with a trained therapist for the education of anyone who thinks they are not mentally perfect .

so what was the question ? lmao

PS If you want to pretend you have never spent anytime building these towers of babble I will play that game too . :)

I'm sorry Michael, we just don't understand each other and I don't think that is ever going to change. From my point of view what you tend to do is post links to 10 year old threads, wiki articles and youtube videos that just don't make any sense to me. I very much doubt this is an aspergers thing as I know lots of people with that condition and they if anything are more logical and straight forward that most of my other friends.

If I'm being honest, I think you just have a massive grudge against me and you cannot let it go. This is why you insist on regurgitating old threads that are not relevant to anyone but you. I'm not going to defend or explain or even comment on things I said in a silly discussion back when I was a student. It just dilutes being in the present moment and moving forward.

I really only come to this website now to check in on my club. I thought maybe I'd get a bit more involved in the regular forums but honestly, if you are going to persist in this kind of behaviour I think I'll pass.

I just don't have any time or energy for this kind of pointless bickering. I'd request the mods lock this thread but regardless I won't be posting in it anymore.

Peace.

"Can I ask why you keep posting links to 10 year old discusisons? Really, be as specific and honest as you can." I am sorry too Kevin I did not think Noir had it right in the Ten Commandment thread

" I think you just have a massive grudge against me and you cannot let it go."

I'm just having a joke with you bro, why so serious?
Maybe you have been trying to save me from God and I have some kind of Michael the arch Angel complex . I can't keep up with the rules on this site and may try for a platinum comment award when I participate at all . I thought you were tougher than that or had thicker skin but if I make you feel uncomfortable I'll spend more time at the allpoetry pub

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=95657