Britt
8 years ago
Nei I would be so stressed out to choose my own name. Brittney is not a name I would've chosen for myself, but given the opportunity to change it, I have no idea what I'd name myself, lol. |
Brookie
8 years ago
^ i actually am changing it to Brooke for my first name. Im keeping my last name so its going to be Brooke Nichole (Last name) I actually didnt choose it. It was to difficult to choose so |
Britt
8 years ago
The beautiful thing is God doesn't expect perfection, just that we try. He knows. |
Larry Chamberlin
8 years ago
Let's just settle on Brooke. |
Brookie
8 years ago
Ohh yeah, my mom made a complete 180. She started to defend me completely and told the rest of my family that if they didnt accept me and they stopped talking to me that she too would leave and stop being in contact with them too. She made the 180 when she really started looking up and researching. I have access to a lot of transgender articles and studies that are being done currently (benefits of having a friend who works underneath some of the top researchers for lgbt groups. They do alot of research for and against) |
Ben Pickard
8 years ago
Two things. The first is that I agree with Hellon entirely - your answers and explanations have been truly brave and honest. They are a breath of fresh air in an all too often stagnant world. |
Bob Shank
8 years ago
Most of this "bathroom" stuff is a double edge sword, damn if you do, damn if you don't sort of thing....scenario, you go to a public pool that has a shower facility where you must shower before entering the pool (yes they still have those), you were born male, but your identity is female and you still have the male equipment.......well you get the picture. It sets one up for ridicule, harassment .....I can't stand bullying or making fun of people because of who they are or what they choose to be. Same thing for a woman using a male shower room.....now I have no problems with any of this if said person gets the gender operation, or if all the bathrooms get rid of urinals and open showers, if they are equipped with private stalls. I think the transition would be a lot better and less attention brought to the individual..... |
Brookie
8 years ago
Bob ^ That right there is why i dont know where to honestly stand on the issue. I honestly believe that closed restroom spaces / shower facilities should be one debate and open should be a completely different. |
silvershoes
8 years ago
It is so nice to read your POV, Brooke. And what a beautiful name. |
Brookie
8 years ago
I originally had it in an edit but jane replied before i got the chance to submit it. |
Britt
8 years ago
I can't help but think how confusing it'd be, and embarrassing for -everyone- in this scenario (and I'm going to use person rather than specific gender to help make sense when I type it out) |
Brookie
8 years ago
^^ i do that. Everytime.. I can promise you i will never undress in an open facility. Ever. Its just to weird. Period. |
Hellon
8 years ago
Thanks for answering the age question Brooke. The reason I asked was because I read an article regarding a child in American being refused restroom entrance at school because of transgender issues. The child was only 6 and I thought at the time that this child was far too young to have made this choice on their own and perhaps the parents were pushing for the child to dress and act in a certain way because they wished the child had been born in the opposite sex to what they were. I can't remember whether it was boy to girl or the other way around. Anyway, I tried to find the case and was unsuccessful. What I did find was this information and just wondered what your thought on this would be? |
Brookie
8 years ago
Side Post before i start. After research the article about the person in a womens restroom happened three years ago.. WHich is a little strange that now they are using it as if its a brand new thing. Either way, im sure we get your point. |
Bob Shank
8 years ago
^let me ask you an honest question, I don't know how old you are, so I don't know if you're even able to make the comparison.....do you think that some people in the LGBT world are going overboard with the seeking attention and sympathy?....It's like soldiers of today and don't get me wrong, they deserve our utmost respect , but I've been noticing a change in humanity of late, everyone thinks the world owes them something, or there seems to be this strong desire for self recognition.....I know growing up, soldiers didn't even talk about war, didn't even want special recognition, they felt they did it for their country and it was their duty period. Same with a lot of the older african americans, they refused to talk or complain about how they were treated, same thing with many older immigrants, but now it seems like everyone wants to be acknowledged. Do you see any of that.......BTW I just had a few people delete me because I copied and pasted what I said about the bathrooms from this forum here.....and I'm good with that, they requested me as a friend, I didn't request them, but one should never ask an opinion in a public forum and then delete them when their opinion differs from yours especially if done respectfully, all that does is create an even bigger division, course not with me, because when you delete someone for a varying opinion it actually is a sign of immaturity. |
Brookie
8 years ago
I agree with you Bob, and im only 26, but i have noticed it. A lot. I dont mind to much personally, but coming from a very conservative family where, like you said nothing is really said (not that thats a connection to that just something i noticed within my family) and every male bodied person in my family serving at least one term, if not more in the military |
Bob Shank
8 years ago
Same time though, when i walk into a men's room and im threatened for obeying a law that was placed that also creates a divide |
Brookie
8 years ago
Im fairly certain anyone over 25 will see it and i can almost say for certain that people older then that view me and my generation as the same. I feel like we are leaning in that direction for some reason more and more. But who knows. |
Hellon
8 years ago
Hi Brooke...thanks again for your answer. I'm not sure what all the abbreviations stand for because I don't live in America but, wouldn't the department who issued this statement have to have done research before going to print. I mean you can't just make a statement like this without being able to back it up with some sort of facts. |
Brookie
8 years ago
I was kicked out for my last response. Whoops. |
Brookie
8 years ago
Ill try to drag this back to HB2 |
Britt
8 years ago
In the last week and a half I have been a part of many different conversations about this.. and I've had to bite my tongue. I've learned to not speak when angry and unable to get my point across genuinely.. it is absolutely APPALLING how people treat this topic, and the bathroom laws etc. It breaks my heart. |
Brookie
8 years ago
^ Yeahh, its an interesting. As of right now though im just upset how people are treating it. The big christain group again it around here are doing something crazy. They are sending groups of men into womens restrooms all around. A few people have been arrested. its... Just weird at this point |
Britt
8 years ago
Do they realize that this law does not mean unisex bathrooms? Or that men can go into the bathroom? Honestly? |
Brookie
8 years ago
Idk. |
Daisy if you do
8 years ago
In all honesty I am very confused by Transgender community for the most part (pronouns) I am a conservative (havent always been) and believe for the most part with what Britt stated earlier. You live by one simple rule, "Love others as you would have them love you" . I am not an active enough church going Christian, however I am strong in my faith and morals. My confusion with transgender doesn't even lie with use of bathrooms etc. (I have used the men's bathroom many times, there were times when I was younger and clubbing that I didn't want to wait the long women's line. It didn't bother me to use the men's restroom, as long as another female kind of guarded the stall. I have also used the men's restroom recently because the women's was trashed and nasty). I have learned to hover lol). Perhaps I should clear up that though I am conservative now, between my husband and I we have four daughter's. Ages 22,21,18 and 16. The 21 and 18 year olds are mine from a previous marriage. The 21 year old has had a lesbian friend since she was 13, (my daughter is straight and has had a boyfriend of 6 years now) There's never been problems with us allowing her to spend night etc. She's just always been accepted. Now my daughter is in her 3rd year of college and has some new friends, one is trans. But with respect I don't know what this person is transferring into. He/she doesn't identify with either sex and wants to be called zhim, zer and zhe. I don't know when to really use which term, and certainly wouldn't want to offend anyone. Zhim/zher will be coming down in about a month for a party we are having.I have an uncanny knack for mis speaking. I certainly hope my questioning does not offend you Brooke, just hoping you could ease my worry and help me. Now as far as the bathroom issue. Use what bathroom you feel you identify with, I am all for that. But I will be attending the bathroom as I have always with my child to a reasonable age , so I can help fight off any pervs who may skip in. No I may not always be there but hope I have taught them to always be aware of their surroundings and go in groups. Just like I have taught them not to sit on the toilet seat, rarely see one I would sit on. I am OCD about hand washing and toilet seats so bad that I carry a small pack of Lysol wipes everywhere, yes even friends toilets get a wipe down. It's just a phobia. Had absolutely nothing to do with this thread though sorry lol. |
Brookie
8 years ago
^ I honestly agree with most of your post. |
Daisy if you do
8 years ago
Where's my like button??? Lol thank you for being so open and honest with us all and taking the time to answer my (our) questions. Hope you enjoy the wedding. Some can be very exhausting, others, a blast. |
Brookie
8 years ago
Anytime! Im always open for questions to what people think. I always like attempting to answer questions to the best of my ability. |
Hellon
8 years ago
I went through Perth (Australia) airport a couple of weeks ago and the departure lounge has now got a unisex toilet as well as male and female. This is a new addition as it wasn't there in January...small step yes, but definately a step in the right direction. Keeps everyone happy I think. |