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  • Bob Shank
    8 years ago

    Https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi42sOpwtbOAhXIKx4KHaM9A3gQtwIIQjAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpiqR5EA2Z9A&usg=AFQjCNEtNoQdy7KKa-ROvND7qQoqAHyvTA

    I love people that talk all the tough tony shit and then turn their backs on women and children because of fear some moron instilled in them. are we as a society really that heartless, or cowardly.
    at one time in our history we were better than that, we stood against crimes of humanity, it wasn't politically motivated, we did the right thing and didn't live in fear. Simple solution, protect the women and children, make the men fight for their country back if you're so afraid of them. It's that fear that perpetuates the hatred throughout the world, that and the vicious idiotic rhetoric from those who could care less about anyone else but themselves and how much money can be made off of it.

  • Hellon
    8 years ago

    Tragic. Are you aware that his older brother, who was playing outside the house, died in this bombing? The media seems to have focused mainly on this little boy but in reality...he's alive and his brother is dead.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/20/syria-boy-brother-aleppo-ali-daqneesh-omran-dies

    I would love for our members who are, unfortunately, closer to this disaster to comment because, we are all still feeding off media reports in the western world....

  • Em
    8 years ago

    This is absolutely heartbreaking.

  • Bob Shank
    8 years ago

    I was driving to a doctors appointment today, and this image popped up in my mind, and tears flooded my eyes, I almost hit a deer and wrecked. I wish I could take this boy and make his life better, I wish I could have saved his brother, but he will forever be scarred and unfortunately I will as well......

  • Hellon
    8 years ago

    I don't mean to sound nasty in any way here Bob but...Can I ask you why the image of this little boy, bloody, confused and so young has affected you so much? He did survive after all...and according to the same media report you linked over 400,000 children have actually died during this awful mess in Syria...you've never mentioned them that I remember....

  • Sunshine
    8 years ago

    I'm not answering for Bob, just sharing my own thoughts.

    Everyday there is crisis going on around the world, in Yemen in Palestine in Africa in India in etc civil wars and terrorist inhuman attacks are not limited to Syria or the middle east, and terrorism is not either limited to or by Extremists. There are countless acts of terror and countless blood-shedding crimes taking place in different shapes. Neither are acceptable or less important or even Okay to witness.

    Yet only little is covered by media, and only few of the countless daily crimes are on the debate table when it comes to public.

    But then, there is this one photo that goes viral, such as this one, and others that have been highlighted recently, that shocks people, in one way or another.

    No it's not limited to this kid, that's true, many awful mess goes unnoticed, true. But for instance, one photo embraces all this pain and all this mess, and all the misery that goes round and around everyday, every minute, hits people really hard.

    This boy, seems to me everything but alive. His siblings perhaps have lost their lives and resting in peace, no it's not fine to die, I'm not saying it IS better, but honestly for me his case is worse; the boy lost his ownself while still breathing.

    I mean, look at his facial expressions, they don't exist, detached from everything around him, in shock, he passed his hand over his head and then looked at his palms and it's all red...blood; but no reaction...zero reaction..no tears. He's a kid, under ruins, he should be crying and terrified.

    I understand many children and innocent people fall victims every second and it's impossible to honor or share their stories, like each one of them. But for the image/clip of this boy who represents literally the silent crazy brutality people are going through to touch any viewer's heart is just more than normal.

    I don't think he survived, I think it's going to take him the rest of his life to survive these moments and these ruins and the fact that everyone around him or the majority, are dead.

  • Sunshine
    8 years ago

    As for members who are closer, I don't think anyone is close enough. Except those who are exactly there.

    On the map my country for example is closer geographically than Australia to Syria, but still, I live in a completely different country.

    As for media, all media channels are linked, divided yes, but linked. So no one will ever leave a satisfying comment.

    The crises are taking place, the blame will fall on different murderers, each media according to its pro-side, but that won't make a difference, all sides are murderers and the aftermath, the result is one; ruins and victims, and a death toll.

  • Bob Shank
    8 years ago

    It's a stupid question, you don't know what affects me, I don't write as much as I used to, but have written about the senseless deaths of children not for years, but for decades and decades, the "brainroom, was about a scientist who experimented on mentally challenged children, while they were alive cutting out their brains doing research during world war two, I've written about Biafra, where children walk around with huge stomachs filled with air because of starvation, I got in touch with this picture, because he's no different then my son, to even suggest that I don't care about children being murdered each and every day because of where they are from or what they believe in makes you an absurd idiot in my book. I'm not some phony ass lowlife who uses a cause to make themselves look good, this shit hits me to the core, ever hear of Connors law in Kentucky, who do you think wrote the judge a thesis in the decision of law.....knowledge is a great thing, unless you lack it.

    "o it's not fine to die, I'm not saying it IS better, but honestly for me his case is worse; the boy lost his ownself while still breathing. "
    ^bingo

  • Hellon
    8 years ago

    I'm sorry you found my question stupid Bob...perhaps I could have worded it a little better. Yes, this little boy's picture is heartbreaking and, it has made the world take notice, something the statistics of the dead children hasn't seemed to do. I was going to compare it to the picture of the little naked girl running from the war in Vietnam but didn't have time to look for the picture. This picture was taken in 1972...more than 40 years ago and still I remember it as if it were yesterday. I'm sure this picture will last just as long. I'm not sure if the number of children killed will do the same.

    http://www.apimages.com/Collection/Landing/Photographer-Nick-Ut-The-Napalm-Girl-/ebfc0a860aa946ba9e77eb786d46207e

  • silvershoes
    8 years ago

    I didn't find your question stupid at all Hellon. Why do certain images stand out to us? One scene - one boy who was in his home when it was bombed - somehow ties in everything we feel about an entire war. It encapsulates everything dark and terrible and wrong. And often we all agree on what this image or scene is, so there must be something specific about it. The image of this boy sitting in the ambulance, blood on his face, covered in dirt, not crying because he's in complete shock - it's the stuff of nightmares and yet it's real and it just happened.
    I understand your connection of this to the little girl running from the war in Vietnam. Both images are so painful.

    Hellon's not the enemy, Bob.

    "ever hear of Connors law in Kentucky, who do you think wrote the judge a thesis in the decision of law.....knowledge is a great thing, unless you lack it."

    ^ Can you please tell us a bit more about this?

  • Hellon
    8 years ago

    Thanks Jane...I'm glad someone understands what I was trying to say and... I'm definitely not the enemy :) I've never considered myself 'an absurd idiot' either mind you!

  • Larry Chamberlin
    8 years ago

    Connor's law:

    http://www.kfvs12.com/story/25021557/mother-of-dead-son-pushes-for-stricter-fatal-child-abuse-punishments

  • Hellon
    8 years ago

    We have a few similar laws that have cropped up here in Australia over the past few years but...I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how Connor's law is connected to the original post ...of the Syrian boy in the ambulance???

  • silvershoes
    8 years ago

    How Bob phrased the sentence makes me think he has some personal connection to Connor's law.

    I was not aware of how "child abuse leading to death" (murder) has been treated in Kentucky.

    I don't want to darken the mood more, but has anyone else been made aware of Victoria Martens' death? I found out about it this morning. Ugh. I have no words.

  • Poet on the Piano
    8 years ago

    Jane, I just got home from work and was trying to catch up on the news. I saw #JusticeforVictoria and my heart broke. Watched some videos of her memorial and neighbors' interview about how she was filled with such joy. That photo that is circulating around the web shows what a light she must have been with that smile.

    I don't know much about crime and law but I did read several comments saying that in New Mexico, "murder of a child" technically doesn't exist? It would be called "child abuse resulting in death". So it does vary state by state? I was unaware that there would be different wording or if that wording would lesson someone's sentence. I believe the investigation is still going on but I can't imagine how the three involved wouldn't have a life sentence or at least close to that?

  • Milly Hayward
    8 years ago

    Death, the loss of life is always a terrible thing (unless the death of a murderer on death row) but in particular a child's death is so much worse because its a loss of innocence and a life yet not lived.

    Children represent the future of our race and they are innocents who depend on us to take care of them. What happens to them makes us all feel pain because we see that innocence and a life with endless possibilities crushed and lost and at some deeper level feel that we have let them down.

    The image of the boy signifies this in different ways to different people. It is a symbol the suffering of all the children that die let down by the adult population.

    It is staggering that in some countries that there is little or no justice for a child killed. Children who rely on adult protection. I believe that the penalty for child death should be higher than for that of an adult.