For All The Anti-SI'ers/Anti-Suicidals/Anti-Depressed People..et

Just don't let anyone anger you or rile you, that's the trick. Remain calm and pretend like none of it has effected you, and keep your mouth shut. Just don't give them the time of day. Hope I've helped.

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well said i agree with you totally i don't really have anything to say that wouldn't just repeat you.

I agree....This is a forum you go to, when you need a shoulder to cry on or when you want to help other poeple....We don't come here so that people can look down on us!!!

I think that people have a choice to come to the sadness nad depression post, yes. And I think people know that other people in here are sad or depressed and thats why they come here to talk to someone about it, if they need a shoulder to cry on, or just to know they aren't alone. But when people come on these posts to criticize cutters, peole that migh kill themselves, or anorexia people they make it worse. Saying that they should go ahead and kill themselves now or they should just die or they are stupid or they are idiotic what ever it may be that is just making it worse. People have opinions and want to state them but they don't have to do it in such a rude way to piss everyone off that they are criticizing or what ever people call it what they're doing.
I am sorry if anyone doens't agree with me about some of this but I have a stong opinion about people saying shit about people who cut or want to kill themselves or are depressed .. ect.

~ShAtTeReD*HeArT~

and also I agree with you ness.

I first came here to express my opinion and offer help... now I just don't bother anymore, it's not worth the backlash from kids who are happy wallowing in their depression. The people I know want help talk to me in private... everyone else can do what they like; cut, burn, kill themselves... whatever it's not my problem.

thank you Angie. Brett I do think people want help but don't know how to get it or don't want it from people who don't understand or criticize them about what they are going through.

Either that, or they can't apply it to reality or something.

Every situation is unique, no one knows exaclty what anyone else is going through. But the older ones here have given up because 99% of the kids in this forum do not understand the benefit of life experience and the wisdom of hindsight.

Sure, we're not from the same generation, we haven't gone through the teenage culture shock you have, but we know how you feel. You don't understand what we've gone through or how we correlate it to your experiences and you (generalization) lost out because of it.

Also the older ones of us are not critizing you, we're being honest and telling you what you NEED to hear. When you recoil and take it the wrong way or take offense it still isn't critizism, it's advice you should take.

Don't blame us for not taking the help and advice when it was offered. It isn't being offered again, not from me at any rate.

I think that people who are older or what ever might know something about how they feel but life and what is going on in their lives has changed alot sense their time I guess you can say. I do agree that they are telling them what the need to hear but they could do it in a nicer manner.

Well, they need it blunt and in a way that will make them think about. Pussy footing about the issue only ever reinforces it.

Even you disagree that we understand totally, which illustrates my point perfectly.

I would say Im "anti-depressed" because I dont like seeing oher people unhappy (unless I really dont like them of course!) but I dont critise them for it (unless again I really dont like them)

....float on.....

Well I know people can't "pussy foot" around their problems but people don't have to be so damn rude about it.

Well I know people can't "pussy foot" around their problems but people don't have to be so damn rude about it.

UNtil you can accept the bare faced truth you won't confront and overcome. simple as that.

People have to learn what they're doing is detrimental before they can over come SI/SH.

I understand where you're coming from, Bret, as we've discussed this manyer time before. Whilst people DO need to confront reality, I understand/believe that myself, I still maintain there's a difference between being blunt and being rude.

When people are happy, rude things that people say can be taken as 'water off a ducks back' but suppose It's a normality for people to say that they're wrong and pathetic and weak, It doesn't become so easy to not believe it.

Being compassionate and phrasing your argument constructively, so not to offend people, doesn't mean you're 'Pussy-Footing' around a situation. It's merely preventing yourself from reinforcing what they're believing already.

Wallowing in depression is a safety blanket. Until people are ready to break free and be strong, we have to support them and give them motivation to do so. Telling them they're being selfish and pathetic is only going to make a bad situation worse.

In my opinion, anyway.

-Laura.

Nicely said Laura.

I agree with a bit of both sides really...it does get frustrating when you're offering advice and people just either ignore it/throw it back but in the end they are the ones that need to realise in themselves that they dont want to be like this (depressed etc). Until they actually want help and want to break free, we can only support.

BUT they should be kept in touch with reality to some degree etc or else, if we all say here that self harm is normal, ok etc etc, then they're gonna get a real shock when they break free into the real world...and at some point they're gonna have to face their demons, confront things.