Playing the violin with a Blade on my Wrist.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    This one's for you Natalie, Nada, Ismail, Dorotea, and whoever else likes to bash.
    Go on.

    -Mort.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    I'm with you hun.
    Though I understand their point of view, I think maybe they crossed the line a bit too far.
    I only recently started reading the things you say, Natalie, Nada and all, and some of the things you say make me want to stop and get "healthy" or whatever you call it, but not because I want to impress you, simply because I want to prove I'm not a freak or wimp.
    Sometimes you help, but sometimes you make it worse.
    I morely made this thread so you could bash me and ...encourage, I guess you could say, me to be better.
    I don't know, I'm pretty stupid eh? Another loser teeny bopper ...

    -Mortie.

    ps. love you more Angel xxx

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    We'll just have to wait till they post then, to find out =). xxxx I love you angel xxxx

    -Mort.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Easily I see your point. And I agree it's stupid to cut, that it's selfish and stuff, but some people take pain differently.
    I've never talked to a child in Africa, but one of my assumptions is most of them feel it's their duty to be strong to help their family and stuff...over here people are more selfish since they already have a lot.
    I forgot what my point was because I am distracted...after another post I'll be back to this =\.

    -Mortalidaga.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Yea...It's morely addiction and it's hard to stop, and it's seriously stupid to ever do it, because it never helps in the end, it's just another addiction and another way to ruin your body and threaten your life.
    I agree it's dumb, and I wish I could stop, but it's hard after so long.
    Maybe if I only knew about your bashing before hand I could have avoided the mess I'm in now eh?....

    -Mort.

  • sHaTtErEdMiStAkE
    19 years ago

    ismall,

    I really understand what you and nada and natalie are trying to do. but trying to make cutters stop with harsh words isn't going to help most of us. It's just gonna make us feel worse and worse and it will provoke it. I don't want to fight with you guys anymore cause i understand what you are trying to do. But yelling at us and calling us stupid isn't gonna help us stop. Do you think that's what therapist and people like that do? no they don't. You can keeping yelling at us and calling us names but i doubt it's gonna help us stop. Remember i'm not here to fight with you guys k..

    Maddy

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    I have just a few things to say to all you 'musicians' in here trying to tell me about myself. Cutters don't say they know that what they do is wrong and NOT a healthy way to deal with life. All I read is it helps relieve the pain and stress of daily life. It makes things better if only for a second. It helps them cope with their problems. The blade is their best friend, the only one really there for them. You people pull some shit right from your ass about cutting. It's idiotic, and you can NEVER convince me other wise.

    Now carry on...

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    I didn't read this whole thread...only bits and pieces. To the post above me if what someone says to you over the internet provokes you to cut yourself then you need to seek professional help like YESTERDAY! (I can't stress that enough)

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    Okay...I have a few things to say.

    First of all, I do not bash cutters simply because they cut. These are the reasons why I do:
    a) They don't take the advice to stop cutting. Instead they ignore it.
    b) Half the people who say they are 'cutters' are not even real cutters, just attention seekers.
    c)A lot of them are rude to you just because you give advice.

    Here's some more reasons, but they have to do with the cutting itself.

    d) They are ruining their own bodies and act like it doesn't matter at all.
    e) They are hurting others around them by hurting themselves.
    f) It is ignorant and selfish because they are causing trouble to others (ex. if they cut a vain, the hospital will have to take care of that).

    Those are facts and you cannot deny that.

    Oh yes, one more thing. I do not dislike cutters in any way, but it does make me mad that they destroy their own bodies (and many for reasons trivial) and in that way also burden others.

    Why not find a healty way to "realise your anger"?

    Dorotea

  • ºCrimsonTearsº
    19 years ago

    Fair point Dorotea. The only point I personally don't agree with is d). I Myself, being a recovering self-harmer, hate the fact that I'm not strong enough to realise to my anger and frustration any other way. But I do realize what I am doing and how much it is hurting other people, It matters to me that my Mum and the rest of my family worry about me, and If and when I feel the urge to cut I think about them. That's why I havn't self-harmed for two months. Yay for me.
    But I agree with everything else you said, spesh those little attention seekers. Oooooh they really piss me off.
    Take care all.
    - Shell.

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    CrimsomTears,

    It's good that you're recovering from it, but something you said still bothers me.

    You said " i hate the fact that I'm not strong enough to realise to my anger and frustration any other way."

    I don't think it has to do with being strong or weak. I don't think 'cutters' are any weaker than those who do not cut, but I think it's attitude that has to do with it. Cutters are depressed, and when they find a popular way to 'realise the depression, anger, pain, etc.' I think that is when they start cutting. If they were more optimistic maybe they'd realize that what they are doing is useless, and that it actually makes things even worse for them.

    Yeah, attention seekers piss me off too!

    Dorotea

  • ºCrimsonTearsº
    19 years ago

    True, I suppose if I sat down and really thought about it .. Cutting and scarring my own body just to realise my anger ... Well, I'd feel a bit stupid! In fact just writing it is making me feel dumb! Good point.

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    CrimsomTears, i like your attitude, you thankfully have a good attitude =) lol

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    She's honest......that's a good quality to have. That's why I'm so great....HAHAHAHA

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    Holding on for my angels: to answer your original question, I myself do not feel that I have a "need to bash" as you put it earlier. Hey, if you want to cut yourself and watch yourself bleed, then go right on ahead. But don't get mad at me or anybody else (Natalie, Nada, Brittney, Dorotea, Ismail...

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    One stupid thing they do hurts several other people. So it's not like getting high one time....or just trying something new....it's a very selfish thing to do. Period. No one is judging anyone. When we talk about cutters it's usually a generalized conversation. All cutters are stupid and extremely selfish. Not lacking in intellingence just stupid for the act.

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    Sorry I did not get to finish my earlier post so I will continue...

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    ...if we express our dislike for it. Especially when we read post titled as eloquently as this one. "Playing the violin with a Blade on my Wrist"...oh how nice. Now if I were naive kid who was going through some problems in my life and I just happened to be looking through some of these posts having no idea about cutting and I read that title I would definitely be curious...wouldn't you? And then I open one up to find that people "relieve stress", "get a high", "feel better", all through cutting their skin. Hey, maybe I should try it.
    I mean really, it gives people (especially young ones) ideas. And then there are those who say they want to get help, yet they don't take any advice from others. It seems to me that the ones who want help should be listening to the people who are telling them how bad and stupid it is rather than the ones who are sugar coating the truth. If you were a crackhead who wanted to quit and you went to rehab, do you think that the people who worked there would allow you a little bit more? Maybe make you feel better about the fact that you are addicted? I don't think so. They would be hard and take it from you cold-turkey.

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    ...Okay. Now I'm finished:)

  • **Just Her**
    19 years ago

    Mortalidaga thank you for posting this topic! i think the ppl ur talking about need to look at it from another point of view... a person who cuts, is no different than a person who doesnt. thats just their way of dealing with pain... i dont think cutting is right, but i know i would encourage someone to stop, instead of criticizing them!

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    You just stated my point....cutters are no different than people who don't cut so why should they be treated any differently? They are NOT dealing with pain.....only creatnig more.

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    A girl told me today that I ACTUALLY helped her, read further please. I encouraged her to continue on her road to happiness. I am not an insensitive bitch, really.

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    The reason I care if you or anyone else cuts is if they come on this site and proclaim it in loudspeakers like "omg I cannot stop cutting, what do i do???" when I know they won't even take my advice. That's when I care enough to go bash them 'cause they're being total idiots.

    If you cut but don't go and proclaim it to the entire world, maybe I'd take a minute to think about your problem and help you.

  • Natalie84
    19 years ago

    FoRsAkEn ChIlD: I didn't even waste my time sorting through that mess....pay attention is English class. Please, for your own good. My 6 year old niece writes 10 times better than you.

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    This is a simple fact: Cutters do not think through what would help to 'release their pain' in a healty way, instead they start cutting because it's the popular way.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Wowweee...I missed a lot. I guess I should stop being afraid of the sad/depression category x.x.

    I read all of this but I hardly remember things. I know someone was saying something about my thread title. Ha, yeah, a basher said that, that is why I named it this, to get the basher's attention. And when I was making the thread, I forgotten about the people (children mostly) who come to the forum and that I would be encouraging them, and I feel tremendously bad for that now that you point it out.

    To be completely honest, Bashing is helping me o.o. I never thought I would say it since I was so against it at first, but like, now I read what they are saying and I do feel better, and I want to get better and have a positive attitude. And I guess I really have to thank you guys, I think I will try again to get better =). I'm sorry for being so rude and calling you aweful names, I guess each of you really are sweet and caring. Thank you sooo much.

    I really do advise everyone to just read what these people have written, because truly they do know what tehy are talking about and they really do care, and bashing does help...I know that now, thanks to the ..musketeers..? (sp?) Thanks guys.

    I think that's all I need to say...I'll look at the post more often so I don't get so far behind again!!

    -Mortalidaga xxxxx

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Thank you Ismail =) xx

    -Mort.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    I know what you mean forsaken, with your boyfriend....my boyfriend gets so upset when he hears I cut again, and I feel so bad, and I realize it hurts all my friends, that's why I've always wanted to stop, but I never had the will power, now I do. Thanks to these guys...

    Natalie, Ismail, Dorotea, Nada, Amanda...all of you...I can't think of everyone, but I know it's mainly you five...this is for you:

    http://www.friendship-poems.com/poems.php?id=376246

    It really sucks, but I tried... xxx Thanks again

    -Mortie.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    =) ^.^

    -Mort

  • Dorotea©
    19 years ago

    lol ismail ;)

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    Broken I loved your poem. You are the sweetest!!!

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Aww thanks guys, I just hope it shows my gratitude. Love yas xx

    -Mortalidaga
    xxTakeCarexx

  • Amanda Bee
    19 years ago

    Yeah Broken....YOU ROCK!:)

  • 6 A M
    19 years ago

    Ok so I think I'm a little late on this, but I want to know why cut yourself? Sure life is hard, but the that hard. Forever you will have those scars on your wrists and forever you will regret. My best friend used to cut himself, until he did it really bad. Now every time he looks at that scar on his wrist, he asks me why he did it, why was he so stupid. But then he thanks me for kicking the shit out of him, I know thats mean but it made him stop.

  • Not Bulletproof
    19 years ago

    Exactly why I'm stopping, I don't want to end up like your friend, or end up dead. And I encourage people to quit! It took me a long time to finally get this urge to quit, I always knew it was stupid, I just never acted on it. I'm glad your friend is okay, and I'm proud that you got him to stop, Nada and the wolf pack verbally "kicked the shit" out of me and made me want to stop. Now I don't think I'll ever go back. Thanks to them, of course. xxx I hope that is a good reply to what you posted.

    -Mortalidaga
    xxTakeCarexx