TO THE WOLF PACK - PLEASE READ.

Just the whole bashing bit.

Fair enough if you want to bash the attention seekers that start posts like ''Oh, what do you cut with''. Cause that's pathetic.

But why bash the kids that do genuinly (sp?) ask for help. Or someone like Scared who was just trying to help people by giving them a shoulder to cry on ??

Scary insulted my 9 month old nephew. That was/IS my problem with her. I don't think ANYONE can fault me for that.

You don't like me, fine. Talk about me, but don't stoop that low and talk of a CHILD.

lol Britt. I'm still a rat....LMAO

Ok, but what about the people that just want help?

How can you tell the difference?

Yeah true. Damn, I hate it when I'm wrong :(

lol

Sorry babe, but the story i told you about my friend - Sarah, its true. U just dont want to believe it is. Ur sick. Maybe you dont remember every girl that you tell to "go into a corner and slice and dice" or "just go and kill yourself" but Sarah was one of the unlucky ones who actually listened to you.
:'''''( How could u be so cold hearted? :(

Well how do we know that? Honestly, the amount of people that say ''Oh, I'm in hospital, I've tried to kill myself'' ... You could be lying about your friend for all we know. Don't be horrible just cause we don't trust you.

And I personally am never cold-hearted. I am always willing to help someone in need.

I don't agree with you Nada. Maybe it's better to have no emotions if you're a sniper or something...but the moment you try and help someone deal with emotional problems...you gotta have emotions of your own or else you'll never understand.

Think about it, you can't understand light without some dark, sounds cheesy..but emotions must be met with other emotions.

True ...

well said kevin. i completely agree. The wolf pack r just sick they really are, they say they arent cold hearted? lol biggest shit ive ever heard.

Georgi...I think you're an idiot....does that mean you actually ARE? How could I tell? You say we're cold hearted...does that mean we actually ARE. How can you tell? Because of what we say over the internet? Please, that's just dumb. It's the frigin internet for God's sake. You need your heads checked if you really are hurt by what one says through a damn screen.

Natalie u CANT go around telling people that they are pathetic! unless u wanna labelled cold hearted! which many people have labelled u.

Im sorry, but i dont kno how many other people there are like Sarah, who is coming out of hospital today thank God. And it was people like YOU making harsh comments that put her there. so she was silly to listen to you, so she "needs her head checked" because she shouldnt be effected by what some1 says thru a screen? Well yeh, all of thats true, but she listened to you, and she went to hospital, THAT is the point.

So wat if some1 SHOULDNT be effected, some will be, whether u like it not, and one day YOU could be responsible for someones suicide.

Did Natalie call people pathetic ?...

are you sure she wasn't calling SELF-HARM pathetic ?

Ok Georgi....If I stood in front of her and said go cut yourself and she DID....is that MY fault? Don't think so. If she picked up a knife and did it, she WANTED to. I can NOT MAKE someone hurt themselves. It's a choice she made, a stupid one but in deed HER choice. And like I said before if someone lets what another says on the internet ANYTHING could have set them off. ANYTHING. So if it wasn't someone on the internet telling them they were stupid it would have been their sibling. People who harm themselves WANT to it's not because of what other people do or say. It's NOT my fault people are weak minded in that way.

I don't call PEOPLE pathetic I call what they DO pathetic. Cuttting or any other form of self harm is PATHETIC.

People who harm themselves WANT to it's not because of what other people do or say. It's NOT my fault people are weak minded in that way.

HAHAHAHHAHA thts the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. They do not harm themselves because they WANT to, idiot! And yeah what u said was true BUT its people like YOU who can trigger it.

If they DON'T self harm because they WANT to then why do they do it Georgi? Because they HAVE to? LMFAO please do not even say that....They do it because they WANT to.

Yeah georgi, she is right, people self harm cause they like to feel in control, cause they want to be in control. In other words they want to self-harm.

dont be stupid. they do not WANT to, they need to. dont u dare call me stupid for saying that cause what the fuck would you know?!

Its an addiction, no matter HOW MUCH u want to stop, you can't. Its not easy. It CAN be done, but it is certainly not easy. A person who self harms needs to feel in control yes, but that doesnt mean they WANT to feel in control, that control they need to feel comes from her/his addiction. and its the addiction which causes people to cut. They do not want to, maybe some do, but the majority of them certainly do not.

Ok....Why would you grab a knife and cut yourself? Do you start because you HAVE to? Whether you feel "obligated" or not you do it because you WANT to not because you HAVE to. This is the most ridiculus conversation I've ever had.

Err, what the fuck would I know Georgi?

Well how about the fact that I have self-harmed for a year and a half and I am studying mental health at University.

Don't be a cocky bitch.

Georgi....I can't even believe you just said they NEED to. People kill people...to some it's an addition. The snipers killed people for fun. Because they WANTED to. Drug addicts do drugs because they WANT to not because they NEED to. You cut yourself becaue you WANT to. I smoke...it's an addiction....I do it because I WANT to. I don't NEED to smoke.

Ok holding....the first time I smoked it was a one time thing. I have a friend who owns a citgo store...he was smoking a black and mild and I tried it. Since then I have smoked. You do it AGAIN because you WANT NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO.

I smoked weed for the first with a very close friend of mine....then with another....and then with another. I did it AGAIN because I wanted to. You NEED to eat and you NEED to sleep...you do NOT NEED to self harm.

Or maybe it could be both...depends on how your mind processes it...maybe some poople believe they have to...maybe some just want to...

I agree with you Natalie....but in my opinion, some people may see it differently...some may process it as a need...just the way they think it, I suppose.

I agree with Natalie to some extent on this one.

People who cut may say that they 'need' to cut etc but it is all about will power. If someone felt strongly about stopping and not wanting to cut, then they would seek the help and find ways of stopping.

So as I said I agree that cutters WANT to cut.

Nici

But you said it Mort ....they BELIEVE.....But they do it because they WANT. Everything you do is a choice. You have the choice to bathe or not. You have the choice to change your clothes....You have a CHOICE to do everything.

excuse me, but how can u take the piss out of "self harmers" when u do something silly yourself! smoking!

do some research on cutting natalie, stop bashing cause its getting old, infact your getting old, start acting your age and learn a bit about the subject you wish to spend your life doing.

If you want to stop and you cut again you wanted to. I could quit smoking if I TRULY wanted to...but I don't.

I know what you mean Kristen, you say it well....and Nici, I also agree...but sometimes people lose hope in themselves, not believing they're strong...thus why they believe they need cutting...but we all know they don't...that's why we're here...is it not? ....To point out that there are other ways...?

It's all choice. And there being a couple CUTTERS in here agreeing with me furthers that opinion.

Georgi....See I KNOW smoking is bad. I KNOW I shouldn't but I WANT to. I can admit it and move on. I'm not ripping my skin open and trying justify my actions. This is NOT about smoking it's about self harming. I don't have to be a god damn professional to have an opinion.

I'm with Natalie Georgi, everything is a choice...if she wanted to quit she could...but obviously she doesn't want to....I've started smoking and quit 3 times, and started again. If I want to quit, I can. I don't need to smoke....and I don't need to cut...that's why I'm able to quit right now...because it's a choice...and I choose not to do it. I choose not to hurt myself anymore. Not with cutting at least.

Smoking is NOT as bad as cutting. I can NOT accidentally smoke the wrong way and just die.

What I meant was it can kill you too.

I take it back then...sorry.