Marriage is about love not gender!!

  • Tainted Beauty
    18 years ago

    I dont have a problem with gays/bis/lesbians, i think that if they want to be together, that's great. I don't mind if they get married either, but i do not agree with them getting married in churchs, especially if it is against the religion.

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    NEWS FLASH ...this just in the pilgrims came from england to escape RELIGOUS persectuion. not to get away from the monarchy...hmmm i guess thats why the constition is founded on chrsitian morals...hmm ya i'm pretty sure thats right.

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    I'm kinda going back on myself here but just because the constitution was built on christian morals, doesn't it state in there that we are "free"? And free doesn't mean "You can do this but you can't do it to a certain extent." does it? I'm sorry I'm not making any sense am I.....lets see here.

    If you guys want to get married then just wait. If your patient and you love one another enough. I'm mean here's what love is to me.
    Love is "patient" Love is kind. It does not envy it does not boast. It is not proud it is not rude. It is not self seeking. It is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrong. Love does not delite in evil but rejoices in the truth. that's what love is to me and......oh wait. That's what the "BIBLE" says love is. But you don't believe in the bible do you? Your not religious.

    As I was saying if your patient enough then I'm sure gay marriage will be legal in about oh maybe 5-10 years. To me that's not very long if your patient like love is to me...but then again that's what the bible says love is also and some of you obviously loath everything to do with the bible and us "bible huggers"

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    i like us bible huggars.... no i dont htink gay marriage will become legall...uh o... move to canada...

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    I dont' think they want to do that. I'm gonna move there this summer and they'll have to hear my bible hugging words again. lol. God forbid

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    lol. hear hear.. lol

  • ABrookeD
    18 years ago

    I have nothing against those who are gay or bi personally, but in my opinion it's good to be with oppisite sex like God intended. I think people have the right to choose, but i still think it's good to follow the bible.

  • GoodMorning
    18 years ago

    hey Kilman, just because some people aren't religous, doesn't mean they have the TOTAL opposite belief of everything in the Bible.

    And hey, ya know what? *I* go to a Christian school and am somewhat religous. But I do NOT discriminate against gays/lesbians/bis. I actually challenge my Bible teacher quite often. I don't think everyone who is 'religous' should jump right on the band wagon...I know it's wrong and it's a sin and blah blah BLAH. But I actually question the Bible a hell of a lot...I have a LOT of questions and there are things I'm against that ARE clearly stated in the Bible. Yoiu may say I'm not a true religous/Christian person because of that. And, admittedly, I've denied my Christianity for the past few years. But, I believe in God and all that grand stuff...I just don't agree with some ((ok, a lot)) of things in the Bible.

    Discrimination against gays being one of them. You know, the Christians always claim to be open-minded and accept ALL people. That's not even close to true. Half the Christian schools around here kick you out if you're not 'straight' or if you've been sexually active and are pregnant. I think that's a bit hypocritical.

    BUT, I'm getting off topic so i'll stop with my religous rambling. =)

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    So u pick and choose what u want to believe in the bible...hmmm sounds pretty hypocritical to me. but whatever.

  • GoodMorning
    18 years ago

    how's that hypocritical? i don't go around saying i believe everything in it...i don't go around telling people one thing, and turn around, and do the complete opposite. not when it comes to religoun, anyways.

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    I'd have to say it is. It's like saying "hey I'm an american but I don't think you have to follow the rules that the american government has set down for me." If your a christian it doesn't mean you have to agree with what's being said. You just need to follow.

    Look I told you I have nothing against gays. Some of my best friends are homosexual, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with there beliefs. I go with mine and they go with theres. I believe that gay marriage isn't right in my eyes and gods eyes and beyond what any of you think I believe in what god thinks. But you don't have to believe what I believe. That's why we live in a free country. So we can talk like this and not be discriminated.

    So keep on fighting and I'll probably see when ya'll do break through and make gay marriage legal. Just don't expect me to join the band wagon of everyone being gay and accepting gay actions.

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    oh and love is not about gender your right about that. I love my dad, my dog, and my little brothers, but marriage isn't all about love either. You don't have to love someone to marry them do you? If you did only about 25% of the couples married would still be together. Marriage isn't all about love.

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    You know what I find funny...Those who say

    "I am not a homophobe. Some of my friends are homosexual"

    If you were not a homophobe you would not have included your friends in it. It will only show that you have friends for their differences and their sexuality and their diversity.

    Frankly I found that people are rather scared of homosexual men and women, because they know that they might be attracted to them. Which in their minds will send them on a one way course to hell.

    But you are right Kristen, that school system should be abolished, for making people feel ashamed for who they are.

    Pathetic!

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    This is one of those never ending debates...we could go back and forth...our opinions will never change. I think in order for one to change their beliefs on such a subject they must have a special experience...such as the one I had. I felt for a long time like many of you do however, I am now in a sense prochoice...on THIS subject. To each his own...

  • Kevin
    18 years ago

    all i want is to be able to go to prom with a man

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    I said before I wouldn't want my child learning to be homosexual at school because it's the cool fad...however, it's one of those things we wish could have an exception. You shouldn't have barriers and rules on who your date can be to the prom. Though I respect the reasons it's not allowed in school. A rule is a rule and if you make exceptions for one you must make exceptions for all.

  • authum darkness
    18 years ago

    How many people think its wrong that they band same sex Marriages??

    You dont have to be homosexual to support, you can be straight!!!

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    At school we have a vote on cutest couples and they wont let us vote on same sex couples they wont even let you go to dances and prom with another girl unless yall both wear a dress and act like best friends. This is wrong there are so many lesbian girls who dont like dresses. Guys cant even go together. This is really sad that the world has come to this. My friend Brittany is starting up a petition. If they dont let us go to prom and dances with other same sex people not acting like best friends than we arnt going. There are so many people in our school who are Bisexual, Lesbian, or just Gay. If they decide to go agaisnt us almost more than half of the school wont show up for the dances.

    Thanks for listening! I would like to hear what you have to think about this!!

    Dont Discriminate!!!

    Thank you!!!!! Finally someone who thinks like me! :) I agree w/ you hun! Why are they tyring to ignore the fact that there are bi, gays, lesbians in this world. They can't change the way you feel about someone. You should hear all the nasty comments people have about a club at my school. It's called the Rainbow Connection and there are always people bashing the club and that is rude and wrong. Okay, if you have a problem w/ it, keep it to yourself, don't shout it across the whole classroom! :)

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    Kristen...it is hypocritical to nit and pick at certain things in the bible that u believe... its like saying i believe That jesus died on the cross but i dont belive in God... the bible is not a pizza. u cannot pick off what u do not want.

    And Natilie is right. its a never ending debate.

    The government did not want to ban the Pledge of Alliance FYI it was very stiupid un proud american libreals who dont care about our freedom. And if u think America is bad Go to a 3rd world country...then marrying ur lover would b the leaste of ur worries. We do have freedom. we have alot more then most ppl in this world do . So shut up and try yes i said try to put in a good name for The GREAT country u live in..b proud Americans and not stupid ones. i know its hard but try.

    i'm done with this debate. lol. My last words are

    Its not constititional...and it wont become constitional so go to Canada.

  • ABrookeD
    18 years ago

    Why argue about something like this? Everyone has there own beliefs and that will never change. There are always gonna be people who disagree with same sex marriages, but that doesn't mean you have to fight. I think it's wrong and so do other people. Just stick to your own beliefs. Does it really matter? Ok i'm done...

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    I'll sit here and argue with you about this for the rest of the year if you want to cause I like debating but I would rather stop this one cause like everyone else is realizing we can keep this up for alooooooooong time. It's already been going on for years so yeah. I'll be here if you wanna continue though

  • Alexis
    18 years ago

    I'll answer ur question

    Why cant we just let ppl b happy?

    hmm lets see it makes a rapist happy to rape ppl...we should just leave him alone and let him b happy.. ..

    hmmm....

    i'm done with this topic.

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    Lol...

    Angelina, stop playing with the boy, he left and that's it...Lol.

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    actually I'm still here and you ask why can't we just let people be happy.

    I told you I'm not against people being happy. I'm just following the law, and what I believe is wrong or right. You don't have to listen to me cause I don't have anything against you. lay and peace out

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    So Kilman the law says that homosexuals should not date and should not marry.... Is that it.

    Last time I checked, people can marry even those of the same sex. So I don't think you follow the law, you just are a homophobe who still thinks people of the same sex being together is wrong.

    My advice: Grow up...

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    actually it is against the law here in the us. I don't know where your from but it's an actual law here in america.

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    kk nevermind. Your from the UK where they do allow gays to marry. But in the us it isn't legal

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    God you are dumb...

    Massachusetts is set to become the first US state to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

    And it's still going to spread in other states. As for britian, they are allowed to marry.

    But ofcourse you don't know that, you never come equipped in a debate.

    That's why you are a fool.

  • Dawn Manna
    18 years ago

    i am not for or against gay people. if they want to get married, then that should be their choice. although i am straight and think that a man and a woman should marry each other, i am not against people being happy. let them be and dont lose sleep over it at night

  • ABrookeD
    18 years ago

    The U.S. really is against gay marriage and it really isn't legal here. Making people happy sn't always a good thing. What is with you people? Who cares if some of us don't support gay marriage? Homosexuality is wrong to some people. I think it's wrong. It's just not what God intended and because of that people are gonna think it's wrong. Are you gonna start a debate with me because of how i feel about it? If not, then why bother others who don't agree with it?

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    Look I have nothing against homosexuals. It's there style of life. If it's legal then they can do whatever they want to.

    I'll also agree with the person above me when they say"What is with you people? Who cares if some of us don't support gay marriage? Homosexuality is wrong to some people. I think it's wrong. It's just not what God intended and because of that people are gonna think it's wrong."

    remember that. We don't all have the same religion or history so were all bound to think differently

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    "What is with you people? Who cares if some of us don't support gay marriage? Homosexuality is wrong to some people. I think it's wrong. It's just not what God intended and because of that people are gonna think it's wrong."

    Punk:And tell me what has God intended. Did he intended for people to have feelings for the same gender, since God is omnipotent, and since he can do everything, and since he banned homosexuality, don't you think he could change it?

    Since he can't change it, and since he banned it, that means he does not exist. Correct! That is what you are basically saying.

    Homosexuality is not a dieases, it is love for one gender, and you being someone who is suppose to love thy neighbour isn't helping. Good bye Punk, you have proven to us that your God does not exist.

    Kilman: You are a fool, so I don't need to waste my typing space...

    Sayonara...

  • master of shadow
    18 years ago

    the part in the bible most commonly used for the ridicule of homosexuals also says the women how go near the church during of their menstural cycle should be stoned to death!!!!

    so why accept the opinion of homosexuality being a sin but not the stoneing to death of women?

    i dont mind people having an opinion and i'm not saying that to have an opinion is worng, just pointing out that there are aspects of religion whch are not wiodly accepted in the moden world (even by the most religious of people) so it cannot really be used as a solid argument for such things.

    personally i haver no problem with homosexual weddings, though i do know that many people are very strongly oposed to them and inm some ways can understand why.

  • ABrookeD
    18 years ago

    Well Ismail i don't think it says anywhere in the bible that the first people God created were two men or two women. Obviously you aren't comprehending what i mean. I'm trying to say that God intended for men and women to be together. How do people produce babies? Well men and women make love together. I think God made it that way for a reason. If he had wanted there to be homosexuals he would have made it possible for those type of couples to produce? All i'm saying is that in my opinion, homosexuality is wrong. I have nothing against homosexuals personally, but the whole idea of same sex couples bothers me. If you have different thoughts...well that's just you. Your smart ass remarks aren't going to change my mind.

  • You-Destroyed-Me
    18 years ago

    I think that its kinda of stupid that God won't allow gay marriages..I'm straight but I still don't think its right..and I'm catholic but I still don't think its right that he won't let people love who they wanna love

    so I agree that banning gay marriages is wrong!

  • David Paul
    18 years ago

    sign a patition... I'm tired of this crap. You want it legal, do something about it instead of trying to change the minds of people who don't want to.

  • ABrookeD
    18 years ago

    Yes we all are Gods children, but that doesn't mean we're all going to heaven. Those who don't ask God for forgivness and trust in him won't get into heaven. If you sin and never ask God for forgivness good luck to you. God did not create gay men. People decided to become homosexuals themselves. It doesn't say anywhere in the bible that God created homosexuals. Give me a break. This is pathetic. Nobody understands what i'm trying to explain because they don't want to understand. I'm done. This is bull.

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    What you are explaining Punk, is that you follow your religion to a tee. And that in your mind, you think you are perfect, and that people who have normal lives and who have experianced love for one gender are people who are going to hell. How ironic your name and what you say are completely oppisite...Lol

    Basically people like you make me laugh, because when you die, you will never know which god you are serving under. Hope and pray to your god that you are right. Because all you have is faith, and hatred for people different than you.

    Pathetic!

    Kilman: It is already being done, in britian alone, elton john and his boyfriend, are already husband and husband. And many people in salem mattsetuttes (hope I spelled it right) are getting married...So I think the world is finally see sense in all this...But don't worry ypu will always be a fool.. That will never change,

    Lol...

  • Emily parsons
    18 years ago

    One thing that i do find patronising is when people say "you wont understand because your too young"
    I believe love can happen to anyone at any time
    Gay or straight relationships can happen any place or any time
    I have known i was gay for a few years...
    Im nearly seventeen and have been with my girlfriend for nearly 10 months now
    And am madly in love with her
    Most people are supportive and it does puzzle me when people cant be just happy for two people in love no matter what their gender.
    I understand everyone has different opinions on this...but comment such as
    "gays are sick"
    Its immature and pathetic...
    I dont agree with alot of things but would never offend someone by making stupid childish comments
    Im glad this has been brought up
    Its something i feel very strongly about

  • Timeless Hopeful
    18 years ago

    Emily:

    People like Punk and Kilman, will always hate or be jealous of people happier than they are. They will use God as a way of venting their hatred toward someone.

    It's pathetic...

    People will always be stupid, but there are some who are less stupid than the rest....Lol.