Take your hand off the knife, and get a grip on life

  • August
    18 years ago

    This warms a special place in my heart. I used to frequent this website like crazy a year or two ago. Originaly, this forum wasn't so friendly to people like me. I tried to help cutters, harmers, and suicidals. I wrote insane amounts of posts but the premature response to my words were (mispelled) rants about "the god-given right to cut". In my first visit back to this website in quite a while I can thank people to followed on my legacy with success and a little reason.

  • Kaylee
    18 years ago

    Perfect words. Listen to the song, "Live like you were dying." You'd appreciate life.

  • ღ*KiM*ღ
    18 years ago

    Well said Sluvious. People need to open their eyes.

  • Once an Angel
    18 years ago

    Very true indeed. There is so much to life and there are so many people who loose their life to war, disease, murder, etc, who still want to life. So if nothing else live because you can, life for the billions who didn't get that chance that you have. Kaylee, yes that is a brilliant song, and one of my fav, good comment.

    -Tainted

  • LadyPearl
    18 years ago

    Excellent opinion...or fact. People should count their blessings, they have more than they think.

  • Jessica
    18 years ago

    I don't think that people realize just how important life is. In the Bible, it says that your body is a temple. People should take care of themselves, and instead of harm, they should be trying to help other people in the same situations. Also, in the Bible, it says that we should'nt worry. God says that by worrying, that we are pretty much telling him that we don't trust him. We have to pray, and just trust that God will lead us in the right direction. So...everyone stop cutting and killing, and just pray for help, and trust that it will come.

  • clevername
    18 years ago

    i completely agree life is beautiful and so needed to have... its impossible to jsut tell someone stop it! don't feel this way! but its easier to show them... sometimes its not so great to just sit and complain about how bad ur life is but its better to just go out and enjoy life and see its not so bad... and do those things that u said above... because life is amazing and even if u feel like u shouldnt be here u no u are... and there must be a reason for that then.. i believe theres a reason for everything so theres a reason for life then.... And once i realized that i became the biggest dreamer and the happiest person in the world (except for miner occasions)... good luk to the rest of u or anyone going thro any problems similar that i went thro or different... But u have to realize life is beautiful even wen it gets tuff stay strong

  • Avrii Monrielle
    18 years ago

    more:

    have you ever swum in the beach with sand in your hair, all alone and laughing? have you ever just held hands with someone, never wanting to leave? have you ever made a huge goal and were able to reach it? have you ever seen the look of a newborn baby who depends on someone for their very life? Have you ever eaten ice cream/chinese food at 3 am in the morning at a party? have you ever fallen asleep under the stars? I'm telling you, the world's great...

    thnx 4 the inspiration... i luv nature...

  • LadyPearl
    18 years ago

    me too, open your eyes and see past your own pain

  • kassey
    18 years ago

    well all this stuff is easier said then done... i agree with the very first post but the person that wrote it oviously doesn't understand what people go through and why they choose too cut becoz if u knew or even understood the slightest bit you wouldn't tell someone to stop cutting just becoz they haven't done all those things you haven't thought all of that through becoz maybe for some there life means there own hell...

  • Ashley
    18 years ago

    I have been a cutter for a long time, and I have done a lot of the things that people say cutters should do, But nobody can truely talk about cutters if they haven't been one, I speak for my self when I say: Life sometimes is fanatastic but a lot of people also know that life can suck, for me cutting was a way to get through difficult times, it was never because I hated the world, or thought I had no reason to live and wanted to die.. My advice is: Think about what you are doing when you cut, realise you have hit rockbottom and step up and better your life, It may not be easy and it may take you a long time but once you realise cutting is a temporarily solution and not for a long time you have to seek for the long time solution.. Things CAN get better, try to be who you want to be.. Much love BB

  • Abbey aka the goth girl
    18 years ago

    i agree w/kassey most of the people who say you should never cut never tryed to stop. you people don't under stand why we do it. a lot of you never had to go through a lot of stuf us had to go threw.some thimes cutting it's the only way to realize that life goes on, to you all that think cutting is bad prentend that you are depressed and hit rockbottem what would you do? may you would try to comit suside or cut what do you think is better cutting or suside? what would you have us do?

    im not trying to insault any of you but fair is fair you say ehat you want to and i say whant to!

  • Natalie
    18 years ago

    well all this stuff is easier said then done... i agree with the very first post but the person that wrote it oviously doesn't understand what people go through and why they choose too cut becoz if u knew or even understood the slightest bit you wouldn't tell someone to stop cutting just becoz they haven't done all those things you haven't thought all of that through becoz maybe for some there life means there own hell...

    ^^^I disagree! I used to cut, And I've stopped now. I know exactly how that all feels. But I don't go telling everyone that it's okay to cut. Cause it's not! And for anyone who thinks it's good to cut, you all need to wake up to yourselves!

  • Samantha Hollywood
    18 years ago

    I think thats a lovely opinion.. but you know what..
    some people rely on self harm and MAYBE that`s just a little offending
    (cough, cough, me.)

    why does everyone think this guy is a hero..?

    *samantha

  • Natalie
    18 years ago

    I think thats a lovely opinion.. but you know what..
    some people rely on self harm and MAYBE that`s just a little offending
    (cough, cough, me.)

    ^^^ I used to self harm. And I don't find it one bit offending. What's with the 'cough cough me' Sounds like you're proud to self harm? Cutting yourself is NOTHING to be proud about.

    `Taleee

  • Samantha Hollywood
    18 years ago

    Yeah, I know its nothing to be 'proud' of, and
    I`m not proud of it.
    But that doesn`t exactly mean that I like to be offended by it..
    and gurl.. why are you going around coping other people`s posts into your own??

    *samantha

  • Sean Allen
    18 years ago

    Senor Shank is great, hopefully more people will pick up on that in time.

  • Samantha Hollywood
    18 years ago

    ooh, annelyse, i get it.
    i just never really realized that there are in fact "positive" people.
    i guess i`m losing it.

    **samantha.

  • Samantha Hollywood
    18 years ago

    Alright, Alright..
    i GET it
    I`m new to P&Q and i just don`t KNOW everything that you must do
    and no, i`m not offending by "pretty much anything"

    **samantha

  • Samantha Hollywood
    18 years ago

    Well,
    i just read a couple of sluvious`s poems..
    and you`re right
    he`s really good

    so, sluvious,
    I`m sorry.

  • Phantasmagoria
    18 years ago

    depends....is it a pretty coffin? people tell me the same thing about smoking, but im just a quitter and a sinner...

  • amandaa
    18 years ago

    "well all this stuff is easier said then done... i agree with the very first post but the person that wrote it oviously doesn't understand what people go through and why they choose too cut becoz if u knew or even understood the slightest bit you wouldn't tell someone to stop cutting just becoz they haven't done all those things you haven't thought all of that through becoz maybe for some there life means there own hell..."

    Well that's what us cutters tell ourselves, which causes us to dig deeper into our holes.
    We ask for help and advice, and we don't like it, because it means we now have a good reason to quit, and we don't wanna do that b.c it's an addiction, that makes us feel better.
    You don't have to bunjee jump to feel alive. How bout you sit outside for a little bit and watch the clouds. actually watch them rotate and change their position completely. Look at the flowers, help someone, listen to some music that doesn't make you even more depressed then you were when you started out.
    People don't have to understand something to tell you it's wrong.
    My best friend didn't know what it was like to cut herself. Couldn't understand that thrill and makeshift joy of watching the blood trickle down my wrist, taking away all life's problems.
    but does that mean she couldn't love me? Does it mean she wasn't allowed to tell me it's bad for me and that I should stop?
    Of course it doesn't.

    It's a good thing that/if she doesn't understand, because people aren't supposed to feel that much pain.
    Lately in life, it seems to be the new fashion that sadness is cool, and happiness is not.

    Every time you we cut ourselves, we make our living hell (s) that much worse. We feel bad, so we cut, which makes us feel worse, so we cut to take away that feeling, and then we feel bad because we cut, which makes us cut again.

    And it won't end until you make it.

    Correction: until you LET IT.
    If we convince ourselves that no-one understands, there's no hope for us.

    I don't care who you are or how bad your school/home/both life is, there ARE (I repeat: ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE) people who love you in this world, and as hard as it is to quit, the bitter and sad truth is that we're being really selfish and hurting them, everytime we do it.
    So here you have it, someone who does understand.Does that make me allowed to tell you to stop inflicting pain upon yourself, or do you like being covered in scarrs?

    ...I'm sorry, I know it's not that easy. It took me a year to quit.

    hard, but possible.

    Sluviouse,you're brilliant and totally right, and I respect you muchly.

    *Butterfly

    (*fears everyone's reaction...*)

  • LadyPearl
    18 years ago

    "why does everyone think this guy is a hero"

    Even though I haven't read much of Sluvious's poems, I've read his posts. You're very inspirational and I'm glad that there's somebody out there that will stand up to what's right.

    Everybody has made a mistake before, the important thing is to learn from them and to keep open-minded and willing to change.

    "I don't care who you are or how bad your school/home/both life is, there ARE (I repeat: ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE) people who love you in this world,"

    ^I completely agree

  • Darien
    18 years ago

    ^^

    ohhh I thought it was because you were trying to save lives they were calling you a hero..

    but i guess we'll leave the heroics up to superman.

  • Darien
    18 years ago

    and of course the beautiful women of CC&P

  • Sean Allen
    18 years ago

    "Im just the average man who has learned from "my own" mistakes in life,"

    That's probably one of the things being a hero can mean.
    ~~~
    "the heroes of the world are the children who can rise above all the madness in this world while still maintaining a sense of sanity"

    That sounds sort of like an aspect of your own life, I think you qualify
    ~~~
    "to teach through experience...Nothing more, nothing less"

    There is nothing more and nothing less heroic and meaningful than a lesson learned and a lesson taught.

    This isn't really a thread about Bob Shank, but maybe someone should make another Bob Shank -- Sluvy appreciation thread, heh.

  • .x.StOnEd bUtTeRfLy.x.
    18 years ago

    Hi,
    well i hate to bring this up again when it was so early in the discussion, but Samantha was a bit rude..Im a cutter and i didnt find it offensive. i found it Insperational. I am not proud of cutting and i am forever looking for other ways to express my pain.Poetry is one. So, i thank you Sluvy, for giving me a postive outlook on life.
    Riz xox

  • amandaa
    18 years ago

    "i agree w/kassey most of the people who say you should never cut never tryed to stop. you people don't under stand why we do it. a lot of you never had to go through a lot of stuf us had to go threw.some thimes cutting it's the only way to realize that life goes on, to you all that think cutting is bad prentend that you are depressed and hit rockbottem what would you do? may you would try to comit suside or cut what do you think is better cutting or suside? what would you have us do?"

    Prepare for offense, Im sorry everyone:

    We'd have you get some balls and talk to someone. We'd have you get some help, because it's what you say you want. Cutting is an artificial happiness that makes you feel the closest thing to happiness besides joy itself. Cutting doesn't make you realize that life goes on. It takes away shit that happens and, sometimes, reminds you that you still exists. No matter how good cutting makes you feel, it's hurting you more than you realize, it's not right, and it should stop.
    But nothing anyone on poems and quotes can say is going to stop, because It's like telling a stoner to stop doing drugs. Addiction. It doesn't stop with words.
    But then again,life doesn't get better with words either, hey?
    It takes hard work and alot of support. And it takes time, and it always gets worse before it gets better. But maybe we just have to suck it up and learn from it (much easier said than done, I agree.) it's like...okay. So. Your chocolate bar seems to lose taste, but you're still a bit hungry. So you nibble at it until there's nothing left, but it tastes like sh!t and you wish you hadn't of done that.
    You could've, however, waited out the hunger until you could get a new one. that way, your hunger is completely satisfied and you get to start all over again.
    Get my drift?

    Sorry.

    *Butterfly

  • .x.StOnEd bUtTeRfLy.x.
    18 years ago

    lol i like you too Taylor