Can you get out of depression on your own?

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Can depression be a phase that passes or is there no way of getting out unless you get help?

  • Juls
    18 years ago

    I tryed to get through it by myself, it didnt work it went on for a few months. My mom caught on to it cause of what i was doing and I started to get help going to 2 therapist and going to guidence counclers at school.

  • Bianca
    18 years ago

    Depends I guess... I couldn't so I wouldn't know... but don't assume you can because others have... theres nothing wrong with therapy... if I had known that sooner.

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    I hate my life enough to commit suicide any day now, my friend is bring me to a schools councilor tomorrow so...its going to be my first time there and I don't want to go but my friend is begging me to and is worried about me if I don't go. What do you guys think?

  • Bianca
    18 years ago

    obviously you should go- make that first step- i had the opportunity but i was so scared of my feelings and thoughts and it got to me- it consumed me- it almost destroyed me

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    I'll go and ill tell you what I think tomorrow :) its good to know someone out there cares :D

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    I wouldn't mind getting help but i want to get threw it on my own. If it was confidencial i would gladly take counselling but they would want to get everybody around me involved, so i dont know what to do

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    I can see that you are scared of what other people would think of you if you tell them all. Why don't you just make an appointment with your councelor just for a day, no one else will have to know. Well that is how is it at my high school.

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    not at mine. They'll tell my parents. Its not like a doctor where there sworn to confidentiality. If there was ever a chance with one on one with someone where nobody else got involved i could talk about my problems openly and it would be fine, but i dont see that happening...

  • Bianca
    18 years ago

    only if your school counselor feels you are a danger to yourself or others- will they contact your parents. they agree to confidentiality also.. however if you admitt to being suicidal or having thoughts of hurting yourself or others are they required by law to tell.... and if you are planning on hurting yourself or someone else they should... but if you just need someone to just sit and talk to and have them listen you should see your school counselor

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    So your telling me you don't have any trust worthy friends you will swore secret to what you tell them? I don't trust adults either and I don't trust my parents, I just feel they will never know what im feeling. I think that is what your feeling too. Oh im a guy by the way :)

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    Well then Bianca I just won't tell them that im feeling suicidal, what they don't know can't hurt them.

  • Bianca
    18 years ago

    I'm not saying to lie but when you tell they will most likely... be honest.. liars aggitate me... and it's not that i don't have friends who are worthy of trust- i choose not to trust people because we are mere mortals and very capable of mistake

  • xxMagioxx
    18 years ago

    I am not sure if I should tell the counilor tomorrow that I feel suicidal most of the time because if I do they will call my parents and then things will get even worst or not to tell them

    What do you think?

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    This will be my third one this morning. Depression at 15? I DOUBT IT VERY SERIOUSLY! How about you go outside and ride a bike...take a walk...watch the sun set...bake a cake...get out of that pool of self pity and do something! For crying out loud you're only 15...you don't have real worries yet. When your electric, water, phone, car, insurance, rent, and all the other bills come in THEN COME TALK TO ME ABOUT STRESS...LMAO

  • Just Sierra
    18 years ago

    Natalie-not ALL stress is financially related. I'm sure it can be stressful, there's not a doubt in my mind, but there are other things that can really be painful too.

    For instance, losing a parent, witnessing a divorce, child abuse, etc.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    Let's not forget I was a teenager once too...and not too long ago at that. I witnessed my mother, sister and brother get beaten by my father. Two divorces, my families financial trouble, death, and many other things...BUT I'M STILL HERE AND I NEVER FAILED TO SMILE! I was stressed, upset, heart broken but never once did I cut myself, or starve myself. My point was that there are far worse things that could happen. I was in no way suggesting that the only real problems are financial...

    but KNOW that when you get that stack of bills you'll feel SOME SERIOUS STRESS HAHAHA

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Natalie if youe just going to come onto this forum and diss everyone get off. Nobody wants to hear it and im getting sick of your posts

  • Jaime
    18 years ago

    I think that you can get through it, as long as you want to. It's mostly just a state of mind. But that's not what I posted to say..

    "Natalie if youe just going to come onto this forum and diss everyone get off. Nobody wants to hear it and im getting sick of your posts"

    ^I don't even know Natalie, but I see her name all over the forums and she gives some of the best damn advice I've ever seen. Sorry, just had to add that.

    But to the original topic again, if you want it bad enough than you will be able to get through depression on your own. It's all about how you handle it, and your attitude towards it.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    Let me start with DisposableTeen: Not everyone is the way I was when I was a kid…I KNOW that…I never said they were nor did I tell anyone how to feel. Let me say that I speak on these forums to share my thoughts not to please you. She asked and she got an answer. If you choose to slice and dice that’s your business but do NOT act like what I say is not important. My having a degree or not having a degree would have no bearing on paying my bills…either way I’d still have bills to pay…either way I’d still have to write those damn checks every month. The bills was just an example…I NEVER once said that bills were the ONLY cause of stress. God, you little twits need to open up your minds. There are millions of things in this world that you could do to relieve stress….to ease the “pain” you say you feel…cutting is completely and utterly unnecessary. GET A FRIGIN LIFE!!!

    Lyla: BITE ME. Just as you are I am FREE to speak my mind any damn place I choose. If you don’t frigin like it, then don’t frigin read it…simple as that, problem solved. There is no sense in bitching about the way I respond to you whinny little cutters that are on here BEGGING for attention.

    Jaime: I really appreciate that as I am NOT here to “bash” these children. I “help” (for lack of a better word) in my own way. I share my experiences and give my “advice” in hopes that someone…even if ONLY ONE PERSON…takes heed to it.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    You're not pissing me off, you're making yourself look foolish. Everyone who has seen me post on this forum KNOWS how I feel. I HATE to hear teens are cutting. I come on here and see all these kids talk about depression and cutting and it pains me to know that some of you are actually being truthful. So YES for someone who doesn't cut I DO have a lot to say. I have a lot to say because I care...because I hate to see people hurting themselves...I hate to see people sad.

  • Darien
    18 years ago

    ^^
    If you think her remarks hurt, maybe you should just cut yourself, maybe that'll take away the emotional pain. Actually, no it wouldn't because even after that, it will still hurt you, in addition, you will be hurting physically.

    She isn't harsh, she is being realistic. In the 'real' world, people have no pity for people who cut. They will walk all over them. To be honest, no one will give a damn, they will be twice as worst. That is why we are giving you advice, so you can stop. So you can grow up to be better people.

    If you notice, the majority of people with the problems here, are teenagers. Because the older people know what the 'real' world is like.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    Disposable: The people who think I'm "harsh" and oh so "mean" are the people who are cutting. The people who hate me are CUTTERS. See a trend here? Hmmmmm...even a blind man could see this. People ask for advice or opinions and I am free to give my own...as everyone else. You can choose to like it or dislike it...to read it or not read it...that's up to you...regardless of your decision I will continue to give. There are a couple people on this site that my advice as "helped" -- or at least given a little comfort. That makes me feel good...that makes my arguing with twinkies like you worth it. It makes these petty little fits with YOU feel like I'm working for gold. If I helped even just for one second a young teen dealing with something painful I'll argue with you all damn day.

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Natalie i see you on the depression section all the time telling people to stop being babies and that their stupid....this forum is suppose to be supportive not negative. I think it says "Need a shoulder to cry on? Share your emotions and you'll feel better." If you dont wanna hear everyones problems and think their stupid DONT COME ON TO THIS SECTION OF THE FORUM!!!

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    If you don't want to read my commentary then DON'T!! PROBLEM SOLVED!! SIMPLE SOLUTION!! Don't tell me I can't come on this section of P&Q because you don't like my feedback. It's NOT negativity...it's REALITY!!

    You're telling me that you CUT your body...am I supposed to say "oh sweetie it's ok, I'm here to listen"? NO!! I would NEVER SAY THAT!!! I'm going to tell you how DUMB it is! How there are ten million other options. I'm going to share with you EXACTLY how I feel...if you don't choose to listen or you don't like it that is YOUR BUSINESS...don't carry on telling me about it...!! If you want to continue being a complete coward then so be it...but do NOT tell me I can't exercise my FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I can share my thoughts with you little whinny, cutting, attention seeking twinkies if I want. :) Do have a nice day and take care ;)

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    u think cutters dont know what? o how nieeve u are. They know exactly how stupid and pathetic it is. they dont need u reminded them. There looking for help out of it

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    I'm naive? LMFAO I think the naive one would be the one who thinks cutting is "helping" a bad situation. Naive is the one who thinks that cutting is a "solution"
    Anyone else? Anyone with HALF A BRAIN WANT TO TAKE HER PLACE...PLEASE...ANYONE?!?!

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Ive been trying to be calm civilized. Your calling people names and bashing on everyone. Be prepared for a warning........

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    A warning? What are you going to do to me Lyla? Call me a bad name? OOHH I'm so scared!! HAHA Instead of worrying about my opinion...you should be focusing on yourself. You should be looking yourself in the mirror and reevaluating your life and the things you're doing. Stop concerning yourself with what I write and focus on YOU!! And as for the warning...there isn't enough of you to put fear in my heart. I'm a big girl...I can handle myself!

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Unjust rudeness and name calling is not welcome on this site. I meant from a MOD

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    I just think you shouldnt be in this section if all your gonna do is bash on everyone thats depressed. I'm speaking on behalf of more people then just myself.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    I'm not going to stop posting and sharing my thougts and opinions so get over it and leave it be.

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    Whats making me mad is that nobody is listening to what im saying! It has nothing to do with cutting or anything shes just basically coming on here and making fun of everyone who is depressed so why does she go on that section anyways!? she says she hates hearing everyone whinning so why does she come on here? Shes not helping anyone with her comments shes just being rude

  • Just Sierra
    18 years ago

    GOOD LORD!

    I feel an explosion coming on!

    -sings you a quick burial song-

    This thread scares me too...

    Disposable Teen-you know Nat's not going to take that hands down, right??

    Uh oooooohh...

    BOMB IN THE HOLE!
    -runs for shelter-

  • Poetic Tragedy08
    18 years ago

    Depression will have to be considered the NUMBER ONE thing hardest to get out by yourself. It's like going into a deep debt. you HAVE to get help otherwise you'll end up nowhere and you'll be gone. now it's HIGHLY difficult to get out of depression on your own but i believe it's slightly possible. but a billion times easier with friends there or family.

  • Darien
    18 years ago

    ^^ It's true..

    but there are people with strong will-power who can get out of depression by themselves. People with low-self esteem usually need help from others. It's not only slightly possible, it's very much possible, and it isn't even that hard actually.
    I don't really need much help when I'm depressed, I can take care of myself.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    Let me tell you two something...Lyla and Disposable...I have been through hell and back in my 21 years. I've seen and been through a lot! In the same breath I must tell you that through everything I've always remembered that someone has it worse than me…no matter what has gone bad I ALWAYS remain with a smile on my face. I’ve broken things, and cussed like a sailor, I’ve argued and punched things to get my anger out but NEVER once have I harmed myself…I KNOW BETTER! I KNOW there is other ways to deal with the pangs of life. And for the record I have had people close to me try to commit suicide. Three to be exact...a boyfriend, a sister, and my BEST friend...so try again sweetie. I told every single one of them THEY WERE IDIOTS!! I talked to all of them...asked them to think of ALL the people they'd be hurting...I asked them to look at what they were doing to me and what they would leaving behind, nothing but heart ache and pain...when you put it into perspective it starts to look silly. REAL SILLY. I called you a Twinkie...I apologize...I shouldn't have and THAT was silly....but I get SO frustrated reading this stuff…and I can’t go away and NOT read it because I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE REALITY OF YOUR ACTIONS. I'm a VERY STRONG MINDED person so I'm going to give it to you raw...if you don't like it, oh well. I'm not going to sit here and type how sorry I am for your misfortune that has caused your "depression" or tell you that it's ok that you cut yourself. I sit here reading these threads and my eyes BURN some times from trying to hold back tears. In all honestly it hurts my stomach to read…it just makes me sick! I CARE!! That is my only problem, I give a damn about other people. EXCUSE ME!! Excuse me for being taught as a child that --I-- was NOT the only person in this world that mattered...maybe you should condemn my mother for that. Should I go to her and tell her what a horrible mother she is for showing me humanity? I don’t think so…she should be praised for what she has instilled in me. And instead of you condemning me for HOW I share my feelings, maybe you should look within my words and search for the REAL message!!

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    The problem is that I DO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY! And just because your a strong spirit and can get through depressive moments doesnt mean everyone can. You oviously are just to concerned with your own thoughts and opinions to see what anyone is typing so ill say it for i think about the third time. I DO NOT CONDONE CUTTING. It doesnt help, it makes things worse. But the things you say wont help anyone. If nothing else it will push them over the edge and no longer want to live cause they always tell themselves they are pathetic and weak and to have people reminding them over and over again kills them inside. Instead of saying. "Your stupid and pathetic deal with your problems some other way and stop being a baby" you can say "cutting is wrong. It makes you feel low and dead inside. It will make you more depressed then you already are. You have to realize there are plenty of other things you can do to help with your pain. Go out with your friends, see a movie, play a spo, write somke porety, draw a picture...Cutting is a dead end road that will get you no where in live if you continue." That doest condone cutting, it doesnt say that your sorry and it helps! and yes i will condem you for sharing your feelings in the way you do because its just plain mean. Your not helping anyone with those comments. Im not asking you to feel sorry for anybody or condone any actions just maybe try some contructive criticism instead of just insulting everyone. You can help people and get the real message across without saying it the way you are. Just common decensy.

  • Natalie84
    18 years ago

    I don't think I was insulting at all in my prior post. I think I tried to portray my opinions in a civilized manner...but I see the problem now. It isn't me, it's you. You can't accept the truth nor can you accept anything that you're not used to. I'm not here to be insulting anyone or to hurt anyone but I'm not here to sugarcoat the truth. I'm not here to baby anyone...or please anyone in anyway. Again, I will share my thoughts and opinions the best way I know how. If that doesn't work for you then don't read it. I didn't suggest that you condone cutting but KNOW that I'm going to speak my mind to the fullest. I'm not going to bite my tongue to spare the feelings of a cutter who doesn't like to hear the HARSH reality of their one street world.

    Lyla I'm not sure how long you've been around here but there was a time where I was what some called "brutal" and down right "mean" -- I was far more than honest to the teens in the forums but I got appreciation poems and thank you notes in my email ALL the time. How is it that some could take it for what it was but you can't accept that this is just ME? It's not me with the problem...I know this now. People within this site that know me know that I am a PEOPLE PERSON! I love people and I care about everyone's well being...and I do what I do in the best way I know how...and I am NOT going to change who I am to better suit you!!

    There is a girl within this site that is VERY SPECIAL to me. A cutter...who shall remain nameless. I keep in touch with her. She too gets the same attitude...and please believe when she needs to hear that she's being completely and utterly silly she'll contact me to hear it! She looked within what I said and found the message I so desperately try to portray.

    I do hope with everything in me that you realize one day...SOON!!!

  • Lyla
    18 years ago

    I am so done with you. i have seen rude posts of yours not only directed at me but other people. I believe there is a line between honesty and rudeness and you crossed it. You are insulting. I just dont see the point on coming on here telling everyone there pathetic for being depressed when they came on here to get help. You dont help anyone with your comments. Whatever i want this thread locked i am so sick of it, you have made me want to leave this site because i cant believe you and other people condone your insulting behaivor. Don't answer back because i will not be looking on this. I hope i never have any contact with you again and i will be very dissapointed if you answer any of my other posts. It will be best if our paths dont cross and you can continue to be insultingly "honest" and i wont be surprised if somebody kills themselves reading your comments. Although i thought about leaving I wont because I love the poetry in this site, even if I dont like all the people.