To all Self Harmers...

Seeing as Sadness and Depression has become nothing more than a pile of putrid joke. I will help you on your self harming. I can understand why you are doing it, seeing as it is a coping mechanism, but I will refer you to a site, that can indeed help you. But I ask that you don’t tell your problems to a bunch of poets and writers.

The website I am going to give you is a one of the biggest and best Self Harm Communities on the Internet. They strongly believe in a free and open atmosphere and our non-judgmental approach to all things. This Self Harm community has been a help to thousands of people already.

Once you join you can:

“Explore the site, communicate with other members via the moderated Forums, Live Chat and E-mail Support - or via the one-to-one Live Assistance and realize you are far from alone. Whether you want help in reducing or stopping your Self Harm, or you just aren't ready yet, everyone is welcome here.”

But like all things they have rules which are:

“There are few rules and few taboos, but we will not condone the encouragement of Self Harm or Suicide in any way at any time.”

P&Q may not help, in fact, far from it. They wouldn’t help you even if they lump their heads together. But at the website I am to give you, there you can talk to people who actually went through what you went through.

The website you should go to is http://www.recoveryourlife.com/ or just www.recoveryourlife.com.

I gave you a great tool. Will you sit in P&Q and be seen as nothing more than a pathetic excuse of a human being. Or will you go to the website, and actually speak to people just like you and actually help you get some guidance in your life. The choice is always yours!

Sayonara…

That's the problem...the love the attention they get. Nice idea Ismail...

Thank you very much for the website. You guys really are something else ya know.......

Boy, if I ever get the power to make threads stickies... This is one of the first I'm sticky-ing

O yes its so much fun feelings the pain i do and wallowing in my self-pity....its a blast feeling lower then shi+. Oh and I love the attention to. You know having to wear all those long sleeved shirts in June and getting ridiculed if ever anyone did find out....just a blast i tell you

Lyla...why must you start a little pity party fight in every thread. Take this advice for what it is. If never again or in any of the other threads...THIS ONE! Just ONCE accept the offer.

Great advice Ismail, a very good idea to post this. I have said it to individual people but didn't think of making a thread on it. (I totally agree it should be stickied. lol)

I found the site a while ago, in the days I too was a cutter. It is a great site and I fully advise anyone wanting help with self-harm or depression to go there. One thing though, don't hide back. You have to get 100% involved to fully benefit from it. There are some really helpful people on there, some have problems of their own, and others have got through it and are now fully comitted to helping others do the same. So yeh anyone who is about to tell us your life story of cutting..bla bla bla..... please go there first, hehe!
- Polly x

I just don't want people to humiliate themselves by telling a bunch of stranger, no less a bunch of poets.

I found this website, and thought. It would be a great tool for many cutters and self harmers to use. Rather than talking to a bunch of people who wouldn't know how cut a tomato much less break their skin with a sharp object. They could speak to someone who has the same experience as they do...

It might in the long run, help them.....I do not want random bashing and bullying to ensue here...

You were always the helper Ismail.. great help to the selfharmers... great job and this shows you truly care.

Well said Ismail...I could not agree with you more, no need to elaborate as you've pretty much covered it all.

Humm. Ismail, that was a nice idea. But, most people are stubborn. They dont think they have a problem. They think its not hurting them, when they cut themselves. You have to first, learn you do have a problem.. then you can go to that site.

-Jennifer.

Well I think one of the big points was that people who post about cutting themselves on THIS site should go post about it on THAT site instead.

Obviously... But its not that easy.

It IS that easy...but they won't...or maybe they will...Now they have TWO places to brag about it... :)

Well. thats there problem. But no one knows what goes through other peoples minds. So.. its not easy. Maybe for you. But not others.

-Jennifer.

I'm sure you meant "their"

Yes. I did. THEIR-- thank you.

If people are willing to post about their cutting here, there shouldn't be an issue on them posting about it on as site that will listen in a more accepting tone.

The problem lies with those who don't talk about it, and don't care to. But that problem lies with them, not us. I think having this link available is a good thing.

I think it's awesome. I just wish more of these kids were open to it.

Ismail that was many the nicest thing that you have ever said on this site. It is nice that deep down you do care about others, lol. No, I am sure the same ond topics get really boring, I get bored and annoyed just reading them myself. I will concider you tool, thank you.

-Tainted Mikochan

I don't talk about it...

and most likely I won't

I think that giving everyone that website was a great idea, and very helpful for a lot of people. I'm going to take a closer look later on.

But just to throw out there...yes...this is a place for poets...but look at how many poets post about their "sadness and depression"...just because you are a poet...doesn't mean that you can't talk about your problems....that is the point of a "sadness and depression" forum, also for a "love and relationships".

That's the point of the message board...to talk to people with similar problems, questions, ideas, all that. So what is the difference if people are sharing and asking for help with self harm? Or if people are sitting there and sharing and asking for help on ...I don't know....what to do about a cheating boyfriend? If you think about what you said...none of these threads should of been started under any of the topics.

The help is great. Again....that was really nice....but even if this is a place for poems and quotes....there is a message board....what else would a message board be good for other then help and just for making friends?

Satin:

Understand that this might be a Sadness/depression, but it still does not give us any right to give half hearted advice given to another member. We are poets, not counselors, not therapists and not psychologists.

Many of the threads here are rife with attention seeking suicide/cutting inducing threads. The funny thing is that many people in here want people to say “No, don’t do it”. But frankly no one actually cares…

Many people in here find it more fun, to bash people rather than help these attention seekers or self harmers. I can understand your feelings, but it is not our place to act what we are not. And fact is many of us, here are only amateur word-smiths and poets.

Have a nice day Satin…And thanks for your post

Yet how can you seperate the attention seekers from the people who actually need help? You cant. Therefore assuming that someone is an attention seeker when in reality they may have no where else to turn may be pushing them down even further. Yet helping someone who is an attention seeker just encourages them. You just can't win. I dont understand why we even have this section in the forum. It doesnt do what its suppose to.

We have this section to DISCUSS about issues in Sadness and Depression. Not help the boys and girls knee deep in their ills. I gave this website for one thing, to help those who need help. That is all.

Attention seekers may be encourage by whatever postive thing we say to them. But it will only last so long.

The reason this section exists is so that there is a place for these depressing threads to go. Prior to the existence of this forum, they'd go into other categories. This forum was made to hold them, not to create them.

I don't think what she said was truth Megan, it is more along the lines of questioning the purpose of the Forum. That's all.

o and ismail im checking out the site because i think that was really sweet of u.. i agree this site really isnt for people going thro that ____...

joy to the fishes~

where'd it go...

haha.. honestly, Lyla, i self harm and its not a blast..
not very many people know about mine, ( well , people i know personally ) and i absolutely HATE the attention i get from them.

**samantha

True, there are people who do it for attention. I had a friend who started it and let it be on show, it was stupid of her.

Then again, I stratch my wrists and I don't tell anyone when I do it. People knoi've done it, but they think i've stopped. I'm not doing it to, go, "Hey look at me!! I'm so depressed, give me some attention"

To me, its a way of release. I get so angry, stratching helps me release that, yes it hurts, but i have no other way.

But Lyla, in actual fact, it`s quite simple to tell the attention`seekers from the people who do require help. Some ways to tell if they`re just seeking attention is if they`re making their self`harm issue public. People who don`t want people to know and don`t want attention will keep themselves covered up until they`re actually discovered. You can also tell if they just want the attention by if they "heard about it" from a friend. I honestly think that if they have to "hear about it" and then start, they don`t really have the need to do it anyway.
But then, someone who truly does need help, won`t speak at all of it. But I think that if it "hurts" them when they do it, then they can`t really use this form of relief.
So, Lyla, there are in fact ways to define those who really need the help.

**samantha.

I think both of them need help: the attention seekers and the... non... attention seekers... yeah.

Cutting is cutting. I could hardly care less WHY it happens, that's an issue for a doctor. I still recommend the site that is linked somewhere above.

why would anyone cut themselves? someone must be mentally a little off to do such a thing. my life is pretty messed up but i would never think of making it worse by cutting myself.

i think it is disgusting to put comments up like that. people have reasons to selfharm. i was once a self harmer myself, and i like to think i can help people on this site who would need to talk. but, selfish unconsiderate people, who know nothing about, self harm write something like that. you are calling them attention seekers, right i bet you at least one off your friends has cut themselves, and has not told you about it.they are not all attention seekers.
i lost my best friend to cutting,it makes me so angry to see stuff like this on P&Qs. my best friend had a number off mental illnesses. depression which is the main cause of self harm, is like a diease.

do not judge people by there actions until you get the full story!

We're not judging people for the last Time!! We're trying to help, trying to get them to realize what they need to do to solve their problems.

Also, one my friend cuts and drives me insane cause I know the reason why he cuts. He's a girl-crazy guy and cuts himself when he has breakups. His latest GF is in 7th grade for crying out loud. And I know he has a bunch of other crushes in line.

By the way, this is Noni