thanks for the help i didnt get

I think you're misunderstanding what it means to be selfish, and I think you're misunderstanding the reason why you're posting in this forum.

If you wanted advice, then that is what you recieved. Help you can only get from people in real life. I can't electronically send you help, you're going to have to get up and go get some, preferably from a professional therapist.

"when i posted to die or not to die i really wasnt going to follow what anybody said, i just wanted to hear opinions,"

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If that is the case, then be prepared to hear opinions you don't like.

The important thing is that people unanimously agreed that you shouldn't die, but should instead seek help. So instead of feeling even worse, you should try to go ahead and get that help from a person trained to help you.

Well, your welcome?

"but when some one calls me selfish that only brings me down another level making me want to hurt myself more"

^^ Wow, I didn't know our words had so much power over your life. I wonder if we said something like, "You can be a better person, you can do something with your life", I wonder if you'll intake that or spew it out? I'm guessing you like to let the negative things effect you, like a little game, see how low I can bring myself down.

Well, it's too bad you let that happen. You really should ignore the negative comments and intake the positive. If you don't think you get positive. Well, I think you're better than that. I think you can stop cutting, and if that doesn't help you, then maybe you should re-think your life. It is worth living, you don't me and I don't know you, but what I do know is life is precious. Make the best of yours. Only you can do that.

*Eirisa starts playing the violins*

LMAO

If you committ suicide you ARE selfish! It's not only YOU involved when you die, it's A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE...family and friends are left to deal with the fact that you're gone...not to mention there will be some (such as your parents) who will blame themselves for not seeing the problems you were dealing with...could you follow through with what you're talking while knowing your parents may live the rest of their lives with that guilt? If you did then that my sweets, means you are definitely SELFISH. It may be "harsh" but it is absolutely TRUE.

"words have power, even from strangers. sticks and stones can break my bones but the wounds of those will heal, but the deep gashes left by words are the scars that will never yield"

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The deep gashes by words!? what the heck!? Since when can words leave gashes? Oh yeah, when you let them effect you. People say things, that's up to you to believe them or not. You believe what you want to believe. If you think you are worthless, then you are. If you think you're better than that, then you are. Don't blame others for what you have done to yourself.

Amen to Natalie and Darien!

"who said i blamed others"

^^^
"thanks for the help i didnt get"

Well now, I thought you weren't blaming us? So why post a forum saying thank for no help. So really, you are blaming us.

"i hate myself"

^^ Then it's settled. How can you get help when you don't want help? Do you even know what you want?..

"i shouldnt listen to what you say,"

^^ You are telling yourself, that you hate yourself. Wow, that finalizes everything.

"all i want is to see the people around me happy"

^^ How can you make other people happy when you aren't happy yourself?.. Tell me that.

No Megan, you are not making anything better with your attitude. Your out look in life is everyone hates you, so you hate yourself.

Hating yourself is the first thing you need to change. You don't need other people telling you otherwise, you have to do this for you. No one here can help you. They can give you all the advice in the world, and only you can take from it and do something about it. So don't blame people for your problems, don't blame people for helping you. You need to fix your own problems. All we can do is give you advice.

My advice is, fix your attitude. Stop hating yourself, you don't need to follow the crowd. When you gain respect for yourself, other people will follow.

Darien, I'd just take it easy. It is apparent that Megan desires neither help nor advice.

This depression forum is a joke. Its not meant to help anyone. If need help your gonna have to look somewhere else because this place will only bring you down. Its just that alot of people have depression and alot of epople have similar sounding problems...these people are just getting bored of hearing the same thing over and over again. Its a very big deal in your own life but to them your just like everybody else. But if your smart you know your not the only one with these types of problems, thats its alot of people. They just wish we would all shut up. Maybe theyve never had a time in their life when they needed support, who knows. Maybe the people come on this site for support because they cant get it from people around them....but the truth is you wont be able to get it here either. Everybody needs support at one time in their life or another and if you do your gonna have to search for it, because nobody here will want to here it since theyve heard it all before.

my my lyla, that's a bit cynical.

more importantly, if you want support, then say so:

"My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem My problem, all I really want is some support during this hard time. Thanks"

Then maybe people won't think that what you want is advice, and they won't bother.

I dont think thats cynical at all. With your guys' comments I find that to be the truth. People try to find help on here all the time and they get insulting, nasty comments in return. Well not all and im not thinking of anyone in particular......

Some comments are biting and nasty, but a majority of them are just honest. And most of the time I see original posts that end like this:

"What should I do?"
"What do you think?"
or they don't end in any sort of statement that clarifies what sort of feedback they want.

If you don't think you can handle honest feedback, then say so, and you don't get it.

Megan - Stop feeling sorry for yourself! I open threads, and are all started by you, feeling sorry for yourself. You really want help? Get a grip on the real world because it's only going to get worse as you get older and have -real- problems.

I'd just stop posting in the thread if you're planning on being honest, and if your honesty includes any of the reality that it should.

"you people are heartless and feel bad about yourselves so you feel the need to bring others down with you. and i feel sorry for all of you."

You feel sorry for yourself Megan. Yes we may be heartless, but it is not because we feel bad about ourselves and want to drag others down with us. We want to show "depressive" kids the real world.

It amazes me you can say these things about people yet you don't know us. You are 16. Your profile is about your ex i'm guessing, and I guess that is one of the reasons you are "depressed".
There are people out there with no family, eople starving and dying, people without a roof over their heads. The are children living on the sides of dusty streets, skin and bone with their young siblings trying to keep them alive. Yet you are depressed because of a trivial, teenage thing? And you have a grip on the real world? You have no idea how selfish you sound.

Self pity will get you nowhere Megan.

Kim,

In any case, I think that Megan has made it clear that these types of posts aren't helping her, so I think that you should let it go.

I'm sure your original intent in posting was to help Megan, even if the truth was harsh. Now that she has stated that isn't the type of help she wants, we should stop giving it.

Ok that's fine. I believe this is the true method to helping somebody. I'm not going to sugarcoat my words with lies and exaggerations to make the truth seem less harsh. So i'll leave it.