To everyone who claims their depressed or sad.

well i dont care wat they (above) all say i think your totally right
For one relationships in high school dont last and always end in tears so ppl do ur self a favour and just dont date
And all the complaning life is to short and too precious to waste. Get ova it and get out there and have fun, you never no wats gonna happen round the corner so make the most of wat you have now

Okay, well, everything that you said; was your own opinion. But let me ask you this...have you ever been severely depressed? Have you ever known anyone to attempt suicide? Or actually go through with suicide? And making someone feel the pain that they put onto you isn't the greatest idea, it comes back to haunt a person afterwards. Like, for example, if someone really annoys someone else and causes them pain so they decide to beat them up; you don't think in return the other person will have people going after them? And it will take awhile to end that feud.

If depressed people bother you so much, then ignore them! Don't answer their posts. And by the way, depression is reality for many; it is part of the real world!

-Jenna.

I agree with all of that. Well said. *applauds*

Ok. Right, got that. Of course, you could have been kinder... I mean, geez, manners don't cost a thing, and I know that you wanted to get your point across, but you also managed to be insulting.
Also, depression cannot simply be "contained." The last thing I heard, depression was a sickness, not just a state of mind.
I whine here because there are good people on this site who care, they answer my questions no matter what tone I write them in.
I know that love hurts, but I still want to experience it, carefully, though, and fully aware that it could end in pain.

So, perhaps my answer should really be "Thank you very, very much for your kind, rough advice, and yet at the same time, Thank you, but no."

//T.L.//

Okay, so you attempted suicide and realize how stupid it was...but telling others how stupid it is won't help them. Many have to make their own mistakes to learn, they can not learn from others mistakes.

And, people cry and whine on websites because for some it is easier to talk about their problems to people that they don't know. It is easier not to face embarrasment and all of that the next day after. And these are forums for a reason.

-Jenna.

if u people really want to know if ur depressed go to a doctor. thats what i did. it's not a reason to be depressed if ur boy/girlfriend dumps u. get over it, move on. find some1 else but not a rebound. thats plain mean. if want to be depressed come and live with me or many of te other real depressed people out there. then ur hurt feeling would be like a dream and you would wish to go back to it.

Christians...I couldnt agree with you more you know you stated some very valid home truths people should acknowledge. We can only control the actions, feelings and thoughts of ourselves...not others...so take some control back and start dealing with your issues, build a bridge and get on with your life when it comes to the issues you can't control. Let yourself be happy, the only person you hold back is yourself!

i agree and disagree with CHRISTIANS... it is something stupid to do if you try to kill urself. i mean they dumped you, THEY NEVER WANT YOU BACK...wen u cry they won't care...he/she is NOT WORTH IT! but even if i agree i do these things. i have no clue why. i guess because of the BREAK UP but i just like doing it. but i WILL spit on him if i could! and make him feel the things i felt wen he DIDN'T CARE!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let people learn from their mistakes . You`ve been through it, so yu know how it feels, but not everyone does . Some people aren`t strong enough to just "Stand up and dont take that sh!t." I know that ele. to high schoo` relationships don`t last, but that doesn`t mean that people kan`t go and experience it all. Getting hurt -- It`s life . Depression is a reality for some people . Yu may be sick of seeing "He dumped me so i cut," but you know, we have our reasons for doing it . We know that it`s life, and we know we have to get over it -- But if it was THAT EASY, it would`ve been done by now, don`t yo uthink ?
Not everyone wants to face reality or the real world . I know it`s pathetic, but hey, not everyone`s like you . Getting dumped by someone that you 'love' it hurts . And since you`ve attempted, then yu shuld know . Yu`ve been through it, yu know how to get thru it . I agree with yu on some things, but hey, like i seyd, we`re not all you .
It iS dumb to kill yher`self over something like getting dumped . I can understand crying, but the whole killing yher`self ... It just looks .. so cowardly to me now . But before, I thought it was an easy escape .
&&xo[SUICIDE]23[SEPTEMBER]ox, not tryin` to make yu mad or anything, but some people ... They don`t care whether the person that dumped them care if they cry or not -- If they gotta cry, they cry . Sometimes they just can`t handle it . And people have different reasons for dumping someone . It doesn`t almost means they never want yu back .
Just my opinion . Don`t gotta agree but it`s just what i think .
..ღ__MiNDYY

Depression is an illness.. Not the 'depression' from breaking up with your gf or bf.. but clinical depression IS an illness

I wouldn't know how many of these people do, but it just riles me when people say it isn't an illness, because I have been through clinical depression, not when I was a child or when things weren't going well in my life, but at a time when everything was going right. I was happily married, had 2 beautiful children and a new born baby.. that's how mine started.. post natal depression and then was diagnosed as clinical when she was a year old. It took me 9years to get over mine, and I lost everything through it too. That's why I feel so strongly when people say it isn't an illness.

It also riles me how lightly the word depression is used too.. I have my fair share of 'feeling down' but never use the word depression to explain a 'bad time', or a 'rough patch'.

Guess I get riled easily when it comes to this subject. Which isn't good... Oh well :]

I have been diagnosed with depression since I was seven, so that is two people that have posted here then...

-Jenna.

I don't love being depressed...

-Jenna.

I'd like to say that talking that way about someone's issues only comes from ignorance. Whether or not you've had depression before, everyone's experience is different. You can't judge someone's justification for their issues because you're not in their head. Feelings are feelings and you don't always have control of which one's you end up with. emotions don't have to be justified. true, however, you can choose to deal with it by taking control and making things better, or you can whine in complain. maybe you have the ability to move on right away... but that doesn't mean that someone else does. some people need to vent about what's going on before they can let it go through their system and let it pass. that's how they are. and even if it seems like they're attention seekers... isn't it better that they at least seek it out instead of keeping it bottled up inside? Personally, I'm not someone who has to vent about my issues on an online forum. But I'm a person who has trouble functioning quite often. I have bipolar disoder, but for me it usually comes as depression. I have a good life compared to a lot of people I know, but that has nothing to do with it. It takes a lot of work to make things better. It takes time to learn how to do that. And I don't enjoy being depressed either. I try very hard and I am successful sometimes. Other times I'm not. I've learned from my mistakes too. I help people by giving them non-judgement advice, instead of making people who already have low self-esteem feel worse. I suggest that you don't judge.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I really liked that.

-Jenna.

For someone who tryed to kill themselves it must be so gratifing to have life and the universe all worked out now. You should write medical journals instead of poems your wasted here. Not only is the "depression" all in my head but my "choice to be gay" that's just another attempt at attention seeking too.

Look at me.... Look at me

look misses u think ur a know it all big headed person u have never been depressed so HOW DARE YOU say that its all attention seeking people are generaly depressed if you cant understand that some people cant help it then i suggest you go and do some reaserch on the subject ..... and quite frankly reading everyones comments here they all sound as if they have learned from experience ........yes i agree some people claim they are for attention but no one here does.

i have been diagnosed and to be honest it scares me when i go in the kitchen just too think that some day the blade will win

its definately is all in my head: the chemicals in my brain---not my thoughts. it's not something I chose, far from it, in fact. i didn't wake up one day thinking to myself "lets become depressed and ruin my life for the fun of it." if i wanted to be this way and it was something i chose, then I wouldn't be working so hard to make things better for myself. having depression is a lot harder than people think--it really is. everyday you have to try not to break, and that's difficult. when you feel like that it's hard to sleep or go to school or even hang out with friends, but you push through anyway. making the best of things isn't easy when your brain's chemistry is working against you. maybe it annoys you when people mope, and i can see why that would be annoying if you don't fully understand how it feels, but you have to look at it from their perspective. i'm trying to look through your eyes right now, and i think i sort of understand what you're saying, but depression isn't that simple. it just isn't. sometimes it bothers me when people are like "this sucks and my life is horrible and i just want to cut myself" and that's because I've tried so hard not to fall into that pit. sure, a lot of times i'm like "why doesn't he just figure it out and stop this crap" but then i realize how hypocrytical it is, since i have trouble too. be objective. im trying to look at your side. now you try to look from our point of view. that's enough to satisfy me--just trying, honestly trying to understand. and maybe you should get some information on depression, that way you come accross as someone who's more informed.

oh you might want to look at this... its a kids/teen website definition and explanation of depression, but it's a pretty good one and it's worth reading.

here's the link:

http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/your_mind/mental_health/depression.html

see now i can respect your opinion. and what you've just said is very true. people do tend to take the easier path, and thank god im not one of those people and i try my best... because that's the only way to get out of it. some people don't like to think, that's also true, but it's hard for me to see why... i'm such a thinker. lol..... you get what you put into your treatment, and if you don't put in any effort, then you're wasting your time.

Arrogance should never be applauded.