Is Abortion Wrong If You Have Been Raped??

it doesn't much matter now that our president is in office again. They are already to ban birth control pills. Don't beilve me heres an article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=676&e=2...

we won't even have the chance to have a choice in the matter. The day after pill will be a what after pill? At least before we had a choice and could debate on the choice, now we don't have the choice whats there to debate over?

So little of all babies are adopted? Are you crazy?So little of bigs don't get adopted, that's true. But there is like a 2 or 3 year waiting list for people who are waiting for a new born.

There is nothing wrong with birth contol pills. I have nothing against that, but I still think that it is wrong to kill the baby.

If you are being religious here is something interesting:
According to the Old Testament, a person is not a until more than 50% of its body is outside of the mother's body. It also values life over an unborn child. If having the baby jeopordizes the mother's life (e.g. losing too much blood) or jepeordizes the mother's or the child's QUALITY of life, it is okay to terminate the abortion.
Just a note,
Zoe

****terminate the PREGNANCY**** sorry.

It is just a foetus.

zoe... you're wonderful.

to the pro-life people:
let me get this straight.

1. animals dont have "souls"; ok to die
2. group of cells (embryo) has a soul; not ok to die

how can it die if it hasnt lived? its not killing it!!! omfg!!!

Abortion is always ok!! Whether you were raped, or didnt use contraception, or just arent ready for a baby yet, it is always the womens choice, and her right to have one if she feels she must, and noone should make her feel bad about having one, as it is her body, and her life we're talking about.
And how can you call abortion murder? As Inna said, it isnt even a baby yet, it is a group of cells, it is totally dependant on the mother, it isnt living, it doesnt even have physical human features yet. It is about half the size of a thumb nail if its done properly.
Also, contraception is just as bad then because it is stopping the sperm from meeting the ovum and killing a potential baby. The only difference with abortion is that the sperm has already met the ovum, but that doesnt mean its a baby yet.
Anyway, thats just my opinion, but I fully believe it is the womans choice to decide not to have the baby, just as much as it is to decide to have the baby.

As you can see from my above posts, I completely agree with you, *tanya*.
Another thing, thanks Inna...*Blushes*

You people have no clue...it is murder. When they do abortions...(my sister had one I've seen it) they suck the baby out. It IS a living thing!! By the time most people find out they are pregnant it has arms and legs, a finger print.... It is murder...If you aren't ready for baby don't have sex and if you do BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!! There are pills and condoms!!! It is NOT RIGHT. And now the partial birth abortion where the scramble the babies brains right before the head comes out....at 8 months old....oh that should be ok too though huh? Because the baby doesn't have rigths until its head comes out...that's what they say. It should just be ok. You people are frigin crazy.

It is killing your own baby, and it is not just a feutus it is a living being because at three months is already has ten fingers and ten toes! Abortion is always wrong no matter what, I'm not tyring to bring religion into this, but even if I was religious I think I would still think that it was wrong. I agrre with Natalie, if your going to have sex be careful, or just dont have it at all, and if you were raped, still dont have abortion because that could be yoru best friend

Natalie, I don't believe that you watched your sister have an abortion. I don't think any woman would want to let someone watch them as pro-life as you are. Another thing, they don't "suck the baby out". You take a sort of pill and then the baby sort of comes out. And the thing about the fingerprint? Fingerprints are one of the last things to develop, if I'm not mistaken.
Bob, I can't remember the exact part of the old testament where it says so, but I took part in a debate and that was said.
HOW can it be murder? CAn you please explain to me how it can?
I am also wondering what all you pro-life people think about capital punishment. According to you, abortion is murder, then is the penalty?

You DO NOT take a pill and then the baby comes out, it's not that easy. They suck it out!!!! The pill you are talking about is the "day after pill" it's a pill you take the day after you have sex to stop a prenancy. Abortion is a doctor going inside of you with a vacuum like thing and SUCKING the baby out of a woman...it has a clear tube on it and you can see everything come out....you watch the doctor kill your baby.....I KNOW MY SISTER HAD ONE!! She was so depressed for a long time because like you she didn't know what was going to happen....she thought it would just be so simple.....she had no clue she's was going to have to watch her baby be sucked through a vacuum...And I am very pro-life and my sister knew it. I hated her for months....But she was 14 and didn't know what to do and as wrong as I think it may be it was her decision. I agree it is a woman's right now by law to have an abortion but that doesn't make it right. The death penalty is legal in some places but does that make it right. When you get on a debate it would be good if you knew what you were talking about. Abortion is murder! Either way you look at it. The baby is made, GOD already has a plan for it, when you have an abortion you're killing it....which is MURDER.

What's murder for you, Natalie?

Murder like I have already stated....Is killing a LIVING thing.

Murder like I have already stated....Is killing a LIVING thing.

but the fetus is NOT LIVING!!! therefore, its not murder. HOW CAN YOU DIE BEFORE YOU'RE BORN??? answer that

If you left a baby in the middle of a forest...it wouldn;t survive. I'm not saying that it's ok to kill a baby, just trying to debate what you're saying.
Natalie, you didn't answer my question...are you for or against capital punishment???

I have always been a firm believer that abortion is wrong under any circumstances. Then the question came up with a dear friend of mine, suddenly I realized that it would be better for her to abort. Basically what I am trying to say is that everyone is against abortion, until it gets personal. Although I do believe it should be done in the first few weeks. Sorry if I offended anyone, and if you do hold the same views after a personal issue arises, I commend you for doing what is "right"

I totally agree with Natalie, a fetus is living, it is a living being inside you, you are to protect and take care of it not kill it, so it never gets to see its mothers face. That baby might be your best friend, even if you were raped, I know being raped is an awful thing, and no woman should have to go through the pain of being raped, but then no baby should have to go through the pain of dying, no one knows for sure if the baby feels pain or not. ~Charity~

Jason, I completely agree with you.
Charity---what about the pain of giving birth?? And another thing, if you have an abortion at the legal time, your embryo hasn't yet developped pain sensors.

If you were raped this is extremely stressful and worrying as i can only imagine. I do not agree with abortion but similarly i cannot say that in extreme cases it could be considered necessary, again i can only imagine.

Birth will be painful and it will seem unfair to have to go through with that for a child you are not planning to keep that you din't even consider having anyway.

With this type of problem you need to rest it on your own morals. Do what you think is right you know. I mean the rapist is not going to be part of the babys life is he, (or she), shouldn't assume.

But some people just couldn't cope alone could they? Adoption would be a gd solution but the child will want to know where he/she came from and if he found out he was a son/daughter of a rapist it would not only be causing you stress, embarrassment and possibly even shame but the child will have it too. it is up to the potential mother to decide.

I do not agree with it.. but in a case of a family member... the child usually comes out with a problem... but I could not kill na innocent child so no give it to someone who can love it

Zoe, no I do not agree with capital punishment as I have stated before. Murder is not right in ANY case.
Like Bob said at conception it's a living thing. The pain of giving birth is not a thing an expecting mother thinks about if she wants to keep her child. You are a 13 year old girl, you would not understand that. Having an abortion is MURDER whether it's the first week or months after you got pregnant. No one had anything to say about the partial birth abortion. Zoe, would you think it was right for a woman to kill her baby right before its head came out after carrying it for 7 or 8 months. Would that be fine because she wouldn't want to have to deal with having a baby she wasn't ready for or didn't plan for? Would that be ok? Because after carrying a baby for 7/8 months it is a FULLY developed person. Someone asked how you could kill a baby that hasn't even been born yet, well my question is for you, would that be murder? I mean almost every one on here who is trying to argue whether it's murder or if it's ok is like 13 or 14. How could a 13 year old girl argue with a woman about such a topic. Some one who has seen the pain and suffering an abortion can cause in a person and their family. What a woman will say 10 years after their abortion--Do you know Zoe? She ask herself every day why she did it. She laid down and spread her legs for someone but couldn't deal with what come from it. What would the baby have been, what would it have looked like, would it have been like her other children. My sister told me about a year ago crying to me, that her baby would be 9 years old if she had kept it. Now 9 years later and it stills kills her! It's not something you do and just forget about. I have a friend who also had an abortion, it took her 6 months to tell me in fear that I would never talk to her again. When she told me she sat in her car and cried like I have never seen anyone cry, she kept telling me it was a mistake and she wished she could take it back, she was so scared of what her boyfriend would say. I told her she needed to tell him and she finally did, he was so mad, he told her he never would have left her, and now he hated her because she killed his first baby. Now she lives with that every day. I can't talk about abortion in front of because it tears her up so bad. I have seen what it does. It is a woman's choice, and probably a really hard one if you have been raped, which I have never had to deal with fortunately, BUT I do NOT think it's right.

OK, I didn' want to have to say this but my mom had an abortion a couple fo years ago. We've talked about and everything and she says that it was one of the best things ever. She has been helping me with most of my posts. I am not just saying what I have to say from the mind of a 13 year old girl but from the mind of a 40 something woman who has experienced abortion,

Yea, ok I'm sure.....So a 40 something year old woman told you that an abortion was you just taking a pill and "the baby just sort of came out" Did she tell you that....Is that how she killed her baby? Don't mean to be hateful, but that's what this about. If you have experienced it and you are talking about it you should say so, we don't know your mother. Why should it matter, why should you hold it back? We can't judge her if we don't know her. You can't argue the fact that having an abortion is not murder. It's NEVER the best thing you can do....So what if your mother had an abortion with you ZOE...Think about that...Would that have been the best thing too? You wouldn't be here to argue with me.....If you have sex you have to deal with what could possibly come of it....The ONLY two cases where I could see abortion even being considered is if the woman could be in physical harm from carrying or if she was raped. Just having an abortion because you aren't ready for a kid or you just don't want it is NOT good enough for me. There are SO MANY people who are waiting to adopt infants because they can't birth one themselves.

No, she did not say that the baby just came out. We did not talk in detail about that part but talked about how she had no regrets and how she is so happy that she didn't have to have an illegal unsafe abortion.

Yeah, but Zoe, alot of people are not as lucky as your mom, alot of women who have abortion, feeel really guilty afterwards, and the become depressed, it is like they are not did they kill their child, but they are killing themselves inside, emmotionally. They hurt, inside, I'm glad your mom isn't depressed, but I still think it is totally wrong.

lets just agree to disagree and call it a day :)

Well said, Adrienne. It's true, me saying that I believe abortions are okay, doesn't mean that charity is going to start think like that as well...right, charity?

Put yourself in that childs position at the age of 18...when he/she asks you " Who is my father" and you tell him/her the truth which is "I didn't want you, I had to have because I was raped by a dirty man who belongs in hell and everyone though of abortion as murder, but are you happy with yourself darling?"
The joy I have with my son is being able to truthfully and honesty tell him that he was created in love and with love, not a digusting act of indecency we call rape...
Thats my perspective but in general I am prochoice whether that be to abort or to carry full term - I support individual women making lifechanging decisions based on their own personal situations...

You good some great arguments and valid points Zoe - I couldn't agree with you more!

Just out of curiosity how many of you people who responded are actually parents?

ok, we've had enough of this.

I think every single angle was hit upon by someone. We all have our opinions and no matter how strongly we believe our own opinion is the correct one, we should not expect anyone to change their mind on our say so.

Going to lock the thread now.