When is enough finall ENOUGH

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    What is the point learning to type, buying a computer, and signing up for a poetry website, if only to type illiterate, grammatically incorrect, nonsense for us to try and decipher?

    But... I will kindly answer your question with a question.

    Why do you let them?

    (God, I am moody tonight)

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    You're going to have to ellaborate. I'm not Dr. Phil after all.

    I need a little more information when pulling shit out of my ass.

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    Actually that last retort was not directed at you, but at Dr. Phil.

    I do not care for the man.

    Before taking offense one must first find the cause of offense.

  • lost and incomplete
    17 years ago

    i get put through hell i kinda dont understand the question are u gettin put thru hell or sum one else if you then i say that enough is when u feel that your mum dad sister/brother friends and no one at all shows the slightest bit of love anyway thats when i said it was enough and i tried but i didnt die cause i realized ppl do love even though they dnt show it

  • Tainted Beauty
    17 years ago

    ^^ What?

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    And I ask again.

    Why do you let them?

  • waiting 4 some1
    17 years ago

    NOBODY this is rude, if you want to help her go ahead if not then don't bother hurt her feelings by writing this rubbish. i mean this is a section for those who seek a shoulder to cry on and not to let them suffer more

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    I don't believe I have said anything to insult anyone besides the grammar remarks and Dr. Phil.

    My last question was serious.

    Why would anyone ever let themselves be beaten repeatedly?

    So to the poster above myself, don't take offense when I excuse your opinion without giving a damn.

    Abuse is not a matter of politeness.

  • my name is Llama
    17 years ago

    Nobody that is the most ignorant thing i have heard someone say in a while. "why would someone ever let themselves be beaten repeatedly". obviously you do not understand the psychology behind abuse. ppl are often too scared to stop the person. or they may believe they deserve wot is happening to them. they also may be relli young and believe that wot the person is doing to them is the "norm" as they are niave and knoe no better. they think 'i can't stand up to that person there an adult'. they might also believe that if they try and stop them something worse than getting beaten might happen to them. or they might simply just have been so damaged by the event that they don't have the confidence, courage, strength or self esteem to stand up to the person. there are MANY reasons.
    i was quite offended by ur comment. you were indicating that it is easy just to say "NO" when it is anything but that.

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    Obviously this young lady is not niave, as she posted asking why this is done to her.

    Seeing as it is her brother who is abusing her, your reference to adult figures is irrelevant.

    Ignorance is quite a game of spin the bottle, friend. Yes, you may play to your hearts content, but every so often the bottle lands on you.

    I agree that this young lady may have trouble with confidence, courage, strength and self esteem. But that is in no way an excuse (yes EXCUSE) to let yourself be abused.

    It is not my responsibility to counsel this young lady, nor is it yours, seeing as that is an impossible task over the internet. I am merely giving her the most useful advice an abused individual may ever receive.

    Do something about it.

    If you want it to stop. Do something.

  • my name is Llama
    17 years ago

    Just because it is her brother does not mean he is not an adult. where i live if they are 18 or in other countries if they are 21 they are considered adults. i have friends who have older brothers and sisters who are in their late 20's some even in there 30's. are you still suugesting that because they have a younger sibling they are not an adult.

    i especially likes your spin the bottle analogy. quite the salesman you are. have you every considered a job in that field.

    Having low confidence etc is never an excuse for being abused it is simply a reason. but if we were to suppose that it was an exuse. an excuse refers to the removal of blame. are you saying that it is not an excuse and that there is blame and that it is her fault. because i can assure you that it is never the victims fault. if you were to start up a post saying "abuse is always the victims fault not the attackers" you would immediantly have the longest post ever as people would deffinetly have alot to say about that. and i'd be appalled it it weren't deleted. i still believe that there isn't an excuse tho but a reason which still removes blame from the victim tho.

    i do however believe that the advice of 'do something about it" is extreamly wise. but i bet that if you were to hyperthetically ask everyone that has been abused atleast 90% of them would say that it is never that easy and sometimes can't be done at the time. and saying that question would indeed be confronting to some people as it would lead them to think that it is easy to do something about it and they are weak to have not done so already.

    but to the original poster of this topic i say to you that if you have the strength than do something about it. because it is never acceptable and it is your right to be safe and free of harm. goodluck if you decided to take that step and remember it is never your fault.

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    "Just because it is her brother does not mean he is not an adult. where i live if they are 18 or in other countries if they are 21 they are considered adults. i have friends who have older brothers and sisters who are in their late 20's some even in there 30's. are you still suugesting that because they have a younger sibling they are not an adult."

    No, I am suggesting that she lives in an environment where her brother is capable of abusing her daily, which would most likely be because they both still live with their parents.

    "i especially likes your spin the bottle analogy. quite the salesman you are. have you every considered a job in that field."

    What do spin the bottle analogies have to do with being a salesman? Good attempt at being clever.

    She is not to be blamed for being abused... the first time. But every time thereafter she has a responsibilty, yes a responsibilty, to herself, to her friends, to everyone who loves her, and yes.. even her brother, to put a stop to this. She has a responsibilty to every abused victim there has been, or will be to do something about it.

    "but to the original poster of this topic i say to you that if you have the strength than do something about it. because it is never acceptable and it is your right to be safe and free of harm. goodluck if you decided to take that step and remember it is never your fault."

    IF she has the strength?

    IF she decides to take that step? "

    My god. IF we waited for all the "IFS" to even out nothing would ever be accomplished. She would be abused for the rest of her life.

    To the OP - Tell someone. Anyone. Who can give you the strength to do this?

    No one but yourself.

  • silvershoes
    17 years ago

    I say ask Dr. Phil. He knows all the answers...

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    ^ As long as you put food in your mouth, shit will keep coming out.

    (Reference to Dr. Phil. Do not be offended, unless of course you like Dr. Phil.)

  • silvershoes
    17 years ago

    Nobody, I'm not sure if you understood that I was making a joke. So let me clarify: I was making a joke. And Dr. Phil is dead sexy ;)

    Bloodytears, you need to stand up for yourself. People can only beat you down if you let them. Be strong and do something about it. Never give up.

  • Pianist
    17 years ago

    Daenyres - I was perfectly aware you were making a joke. I was also being sarcastic. Which is why I said don't be offended because the retort was directed at Dr. Phil.

    Above poster - Oh no, oh no indeed. If we waited until we were absolutely sure we could do something nothing would be accomplished.

    I realize the psychological impact of abuse, believe me I do, but honestly, nothing will change until you do something.

  • my name is Llama
    17 years ago

    to *bloody tears* i noticed on ur profile you live in australia. as do i. i suggest you call a service called kidshelpline. the number is 1800 55 1800 it's free and doesn't show up in ur phone bill so ur parents wont find out if u don't want them to. by the way it's only free on a home phone or mob if u have optus. but yeh i have heard nothing but good about it and have had friends who have used it and it has helped them trememdously. you relli need someone qualified to talk to and to counsell you over the internet (like Nobody said) is impossible. but yeh if u want give it a go.

  • DarkJem
    17 years ago

    because they have no feelings for others and have no idea what they put us through. they caused my depression and low self esteem.

  • Avrii Monrielle
    17 years ago

    they're either insensitive, shallow, or think it's a joke.

  • my name is Llama
    17 years ago

    sorri...who is?