girls.....Please

I love this poem!

^^^what???

Well, your closed mind is your closed mind.

Hello peole oops hold up peole is spelt people lol anyway as i was saying i havent been on this bit for a few months now new faces i see good, good so how is everyone? and for those of you that dont know me my name is mel=) takecare mel xxx

Hey well listen
it isnt just the girls fault yes it is partly our fault but if a guy isnt wearing protection then its his fault to yes us girls should be on the pill and telling guys to put a condom on but face it we just arnt that smart well smart enough to say if its not on its not on in we are scared tht guys wil dump us or think we are scared if we say tht and yes if its our first time we are goin to be scared but condoms dont just protect us from pregnancy they also protect us from STIs such as HIV
and why are so many guys afraid of taking care of their children so many single mothers these days *breaths* if they are responsible enough to have sex then they should be responsible enough to take care of some of the consequences not all of us girls believe in abortion(sp) doesnt mean we should have to raise children on our own

ok i think i have made my point

remember if its not on its not on (unless u want to get pregnant)
much love katie
and yes im a virgin=D

In my opinion, a majority of girls are no longer afraid of becoming impregnated.

They see a baby as an accessory.

Something to dress up and buy cute things for so they can show it off to friends who laugh behind their backs.

As for what Bob said, he only meant good towards the girls and the site...for it is not the boys who -could- be pregnant or getting spammed.

Visit your doctor to the sure. That's all he's saying.

'Tis not a personal attack on the opposite gender.

Plus, how often do you see a topic posted by a guy who's dying to know if his girlfriend's pregnant?

Not saying that they don't do it; it's just rare when they do.

Not everything is a personal attack. Remember that.

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His original post wasn't much of an attack, but it became something more. He is blaming sexual mistakes, untimely births, and who knows what else..on women. Bob, it appears you suffer from womb envy :\ Sexism is fear your gender is in jeopardy, mi amigito. What facts do you have that can support your sexist claims? Like I have said, it takes two to make a baby. Suddenly, women are the one's to blame. Wow.

And Miss Tawanda above me, a baby as an accessory? What the heck kind of girls do you know? I think a lot of you guys are pulling this junk out of your anus. From my point of view, AND YES I AM A FEMALE GOD DANGIT, children are major responsibiliy--the greatest test and the greatest gift. Not a piece of jewelry, women or men who think such a stupid thing, should not be having babies, let aone sex.

Pah.

'And Miss Tawanda above me, a baby as an accessory? What the heck kind of girls do you know? I think a lot of you guys are pulling this junk out of your anus. From my point of view, AND YES I AM A FEMALE GOD DANGIT, children are major responsibiliy--the greatest test and the greatest gift. Not a piece of jewelry, women or men who think such a stupid thing, should not be having babies, let aone sex.'

Well said Jane.

"And Miss Tawanda above me, a baby as an accessory? What the heck kind of girls do you know?"

Real girls, ma'am. The ones that cease to exist in your little delusional world.

If you wish to know details, we can just take this conversation to private messaging.

I have no desire to put those girls on the spot.

"I think a lot of you guys are pulling this junk out of your anus."

And vice versa. Vice versa.

"From my point of view, AND YES I AM A FEMALE GOD DANGIT, children are major responsibility--the greatest test and the greatest gift."

I, too, am female and I agree.

I have five younger siblings and I love them dearly.

"Not a piece of jewelry, women or men who think such a stupid thing, should not be having babies, let alone sex."

If only changing what is fact can be as easy as making that statement.

And it's Miss Atomic, if it's your choice to be formal.

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#1-"real" girls are not the ones using babies as accessories, "uneducated, irresponsible, and vapid" girls are the ones doing that sort of thing. But at the same time, I think you were meaning those girls do exist, and they do. Half the girls at my work (I work in San Francisco) are 22 and younger and either a) have kids, 2) are pregnant, or 3) are engaged. It happens, just not in happy little primarily caucasion suburbia. But yes, children are a major responsibility and so few teenage/young mothers realize the significance and weight of having to raise a child, well.

Yes, my last post was irrational. Sorry about that, everyone. Your drawing looks like a Miss Tawanda to me, but hey, Miss Atomic is even better.

You know Bob...what can also be stated is that if men didn't have penises...there would be no children either. So maybe girls should keep their legs clothes and we should chop all the men's penises? Hmm...sounds like a twisted Children of Men storyline to me...

p.s. only understand that its natural for females to get defensive because we're always blamed for everything and to be honest, in pregnancy, we get the short end of the stick already.

I agree with Bob's first post in that this is not the place to go for advice about pregnancy or sex.

If you can't talk to your parents or don't have older siblings, then go to the school nurse or a trusted teacher.

As for who is the responsible party??

YOU ARE (meaning whoever is reading this now)

Girls don't rely on the guy and boys don't rely on the girl to be the responsible one. And if you can't talk to each other about it, then you are not ready to have sex.

So true Ann. You can never depend on someone else to protect you from STD's or becomming pregnant.

If you are not ready for a childl or the risk of contracting a disease then take responsibilty yourself and talk to someone you trust to find out about the different forms of birth controls.

--Sher

"I don't think male hormones should be an excuse. We may be animals, but we can do something most animals can't...MASTURBATE."

Haha, you know what's funny? Men who are more sexually active are much more likely to masturbate than men who aren't. So where's the logic in that?
Plus, do you really think that masturbation works that way? Men think completely differently than women about sex - a simple self stimulated orgasm isn't that great at all.

Plus, if you're going to compare us to animals, keep in mind how hormonally driven we humans are. Everything in our body is controlled by either hormones or neurotransmitters - sometimes we can't supress them. To be honest, we haven't actually come that far in the past 40, 000 years...we can think, but many of us can't think enough to supress instinct.

Just a thought.

(Yeah, I know....that was posted a while ago)

J.R.S.P.

Bob by short end of the stick I mean women often times in unplanned pregnancy can end up taking care of the baby themselves, WE have to go through labor, WE need to deal with nine months of pregnancy. and YOU guys have to PAY to help out with the child YOU created??? Really money is nothing when you compare it to really intense pain??? I don't believe so.

This is bulshi t these days everything in life makes teenagers want to have sex and it duznt help all the pressure from the boys theaz no such thing as a "gentleman" these days theyr all immature and just want sex

The kween i agree

You deserve a medal for saying that :D

Not trying to be mean or anything, teen pregnancy is NOT a bad thing. I am not a teen mother but i know a lot of girls who are. so you can't call it that.

Well i dont no if this is a discussion for teen pregancy.. i think what the person was sayen is that the Love and Romance discussion is not to be used to Discuss Unwanted Teen Pregancies... its that simple...

I agree with a lot of what you said elisabetta, thank you for speaking words I didn't manage to articulate well.

"I merely stated a known FACT...If a girl/women chooses to keep her legs closed there can be no pregnancy, now take that as an attack all you want, but the reality of the statement can not be refuted no matter how you want it to be otherwise......"

Oh, I'm sorry. I just got back from vacation. Let's see...oh yes. This is a completely ridiculous statement to make. Are you claiming, if men were the carriers, they would be fully at blame? Is it really just the carrier's fault? Put a coat on your weener before you decide to shove it in another human being. It takes two to make a baby! It takes two to have sex! It takes two to get an STD. It never comes down to just one person. In any sexual relation, there are at least two parties involved with the situation and whatever outcome. You cannot blame this kind of crap on females. It's equal on both sides. Girls, keep your legs crossed. Boys, pack those floppy things away.

I totally agree with you!! ^^^^^^

This is bulshi t these days everything in life makes teenagers want to have sex and it duznt help all the pressure from the boys theaz no such thing as a "gentleman" these days theyr all immature and just want sex

^ Wrong wrong wrong... not all guys are like that.. .most are.. but not all. So dont say that.. there are gentleman and there are immature people, there is a difference.. and there are some so called gentleman..

^^^ Agreed with Colby on this one.. I like to think that im a gentleman but u no there are too many teens taht are idiots who dont no the first thing about love.. and they just do somethin cuz of lust... but its meaningless sex means nothing... its stupid.. i could go on but it ends in the girl feeling meaningless... any way.... tghats it

Your post was random rhetoric and didn't even attempt to refute the statement....and I think you need to do some research on STD's it does not always take two through intercourse. also as I said before it's not a fault issue but rather preventive medicine, and again I say there can be no intercourse if the girl is unwilling. She and she alone dictates that course of events.

^^^misogynistic and untrue. And frankly, since you're NOT a female, you can't really understand the female's side of the situation.

Surely if the guy doesn't want sex then there can be no intercourse either? If the guy is unwilling (and yes, it does happen), then he can say no too. It's not just the girl's decision on whether or not to have sex.

It's not the girl's fault she's the one that could get pregnant, so that's not really relevant. You're saying that a girl can say no to sex so that she doesn't get pregnant - but equally, a guy can also say no to sex so that the girl doesn't get pregnant. So why is it the girl's fault?

Many guys pressure the girl into sex, and although you can tell them to 'just say no', the amount of control some guys have over their girlfriends is scary. It's not always easy to say no.

Pregnancy is the result of both a male and a female; in most cases, both have to agree before anything happens; so, if she gets pregnant, it's not solely the girl's fault. The exception to this would be in the case of rape, in which case it is clearly not the girl's fault (there's no way you can dispute that, surely?). In this instance, the guy would be to blame, and I really don't understand how you can say that any unwanted pregnancy is just the girl's fault?

Ok, fine, taking the word fault out of it, and in reply to your 'known fact' - it is also a KNOWN FACT that if the guy kept his trousers zipped up there can also be NO PREGNANCY.

That's my point. It's not just the girl who is responsible for the pregnancy.

And I don't think you understand what I'm saying in relation to the control thing. She doesn't always want to have sex, but guys can be manipulative and control girls minds, and pressure her into having sex. Even someone who is strong minded and ready for a relationship can be worn down by abusive partners, and made to feel pressured into having sex.

I have seen it happen time and time again, strong women worn down by constant daily abuse, who think that they have to do what their partner wants them to do because their partner has persuaded them that no one else would want them. These females were all strong before, and always said that they would leave immediately if they were ever in an abusive relationship. That's great in theory, but in practise, it's not always that simple.

The funny thing is... is that why does it matter??

I know we went over this but.. IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE A BABY!!

It can be neither ones sexes fault...

"and I think you need to do some research on STD's it does not always take two through intercourse."

^Haha, nice try Colbs. You think STD's just pop out of nowhere? SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES. Use your brain, little nunchuck. You want me to highlight the words? STD's are sexually transmitted, period. Whether directly or passed down by parents (having sex obviously). I did refute the 'question' which has been repeated REPEATEDLY, haha, but you lot are too stubborn to admit that sex takes two.

With my limited wisdom, I have come to find that minds that do not want changing, do not change. Keep your opinions, I'll keep mine.

Cheerio.

Yes, those are referred to as STD's, but they aren't sexual transmitted. There's an error there. I am talking about diseases that are sexually transmitted, not diseases that are incorrectly labeled.

I'm not really sure why you people would think I'd be talking about tattoo transmitted diseases, when we're clearly talking about sex here. You need everything spelled out for you? I'm talking about untimely births, I repeat--sexually transmitted diseases, and whatever other mistakes that can be passed sexually.

Anyway, I'm going to college orientation. Be back Tuesday.