Sex Offenders?

Quite right Abby, I should have laughed it off, that would have been the evolved thing to do....as it happens I was quite caught up in the moment and the discussion.

But you are right.

If you look at a sex offenders rap sheet it more than likely has several account of sexual battery. It's not something that goes away. They're sick and the deserve to be locked away for life...not released to strike society once more.

"By the way, thank you for letting us see your face. You are quite dishy...haha."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

*Coughs* *Sniggers a bit*

Sorry Abby, but I don't think Kevin's a dish...He is more of an meal or an appetizer...No wait the 7 layered triple choclate cake with Icing on top....

Anyhoo...Bob, I will read the book you listed and I will come back with my critique of it within a day...

Kevin..my apology was not to keep me from getting banned or penalty points..I would've apologized even if you hadn't said that...
Tyanna

Ha, Abby, a dish....hmm, I think not, but thanks...my foreheads too large...I've got eyes that are too big..and freakiskly long arms..and I'm 6'ft4...basically...if I am a dish..I'm an aquired taste...some weird foreign food you either love or hate....but thanks....

I don't have many decent pictures of me...I had to cut this one up and lighten the colours as it was taken in a dark room originally...still...I look kinda wise and empathatic...a good look for a Mod..mwa ha ha...

Lol....no..not at all like a dish!! lol

What are you saying I'm ugly...eh? Do you want to get banned?

: )

Lol....Is saying that you look like a dish a good thing?? If so ya...you look like a dish..

I agree with Bob. There's not much you can do to rehabilitate someone that twisted. Personally, I'd vote on castration. Some people really do deserve cruel fates.

J.R.S.P.

Well Aria I can see from your post, you are saying that our society is faulty on it's own, rather than cry for the blood of the sexual abuser, we should look within our society and see the cause of it...

Am I correct?

Oh well, if it isn't I will just keep on interpreting metaphors and words written to elude one's mind...

Lmao....

I think all too often we think of men when we think of child sex offenders. I was just thinking of this and thought I would share. Women are guilty to though and I think we have a tendency to overlook this all too often, lulling us into a false sense of security. The mentioning of the little girl, Holly Jones, made me think of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy. Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka kidnapped, raped and murdered both girls, along with Homolkas own sister. She is now out of prison 12 years later. Homolka participated in every treatment program recommended by prison authorities, until she was asked to participate in a program that had been designed for male sex offenders. She refused, on the grounds that she was neither male nor a convicted sex offender. She was a sex offender, she participated in the rape and murder of 3 people, so how could the justice system allow her not to participate? She also had a boyfriend and a girlfriend while she was in prison and got her bachelors in psychology from Queen's University while she was in prison. I know parents who work their butts off and still cant afford university for their kids, but here is a convicted killer getting it for free in prison, I think that says a lot about the justice system.

I think the reason behind us referring to sex offenders as men is b/c there are more male child sex offenders than there are women..Do a search of your local area for registered sex offenders...What is the male/female ratio???
I'm not saying that females aren't sex offneders too..I'm just saying there are more males...
I believe that the reason they offer free schooliing in prision is to try to better these peoples lives..Hoping that if they are educated they will be less likely to commit crimes once they are freed..I don't see anything wrong with this..If you can turn a persons life around I think it's worth it..I highly doubt those that plan on getting out of prison to return to their old ways are going to take advantage of getting an education in prision anyways. I could be wrong but that's my opinion...As for child abusers...I still stand on them getting the death penalty..regardless if they were abused as a child...That should've given them more of a reason not to become an abuser..

Huh???

No..that's not right..However..if the judge did not order for her to take part in a program for sex offenders then there is nothing else they can do..
It is really up to the judge..or jurors,, if the person has to participate in a class like this...For the rape and murder of 3 people she should've gotten the death penalty..but I am assuming it wasn't an option in this case...That's sad..Do you know how long she got??

I never said the justice system was right...As I have said before I think murderers and those that commit crimes again children should get the death penalty...I was simply saying why I think they allow those in prison to participate in classes and get degrees...I never once said it was right...

Kevin...you out of this one now???

No Tyanna, I'm still here, but to be honest I'm not sure what else there is for me to say...I've expressed a fair bit in this thread, and nothing anyone has said recently in it has grabbed me enough to respond....but I am watching.

Ps, you didn't have to edit your post like that.

I know I didn't..but I felt really bad for what I said once I seen how much you was offended and I thought it would be best to just delete it....I told you my apology was sincere...And sorry you got negative feedback for your reaction..I didn't think you was "abusing" your rights for what it's worth.. But we have an understanding now...at least I think we do..??..

And ya..I think everyone has said all there is to say about this topic..

"But let me ask you, if she had said it to you, that you sounded like a sex offender? What would you have felt?"

I would have felt nothing. I tend to detach myself from this site emotionally. Too much conflict to get caught up in. Staying calm and partially indifferent, is key.

Peace out.

And you're not too bad looking. I agree with abbs.

You are talking about fellow human beings! sure they made a mistake, but does that mean they should be killed? i'll bet that if you locked a man up for murder for 45 or so years, once let loose, he would almost definately not kill again!if it comes down to it, put them in an asylum.

I don't really know.

What I do know, is as much as people "can" change, there are an equal number of people who can't and will go on to commit yet more crimes.

I don't think I would ever be at all comfortable with someone who had been an "abuser" of some sort in his or her past. I do believe in rehabilitation, but to an extent.

There is a line, where I think if you cross it by abusing someone, or killing someone etc, theres no way back.

xx

I Know im taking a big chance at this, spilling my business and all and ill probably regret it later. but 2 things to say. 1, no not all abusers were abused. my brother was never abused as a kid. and 2 my brother abused me when i was younger and when i finally stopped him after years of it he just switched to my younger brother. no one believed it bout me but they caught him with my lil bro and he went through therapy and all that shit. hes gone and married now but he hasnt changed for a second. Hes so anxious to have a kid and these days he wont even look me in the face anymore cuz he knows and is shamed and knows he lied saying he never did stuff to me, only my bro. i can see it in him and by the way he is, he aint changed....

Abby, I adore your sloth picture. And no, I don't agree. I cannot see wisdom or any other mental characteristic, besides perhaps care for personal hygiene, through a photo.

Um, flattered though I am to still be the focus of duscussion between two charming and intelligent ladies such as yourselves, would it be ok if my mugshot was taken out of the picture [oh ho ho..did you see how I did that...mwa..]

I am getting all shy.

I didnt read all the other posts...but no I dont think they can be rehabilitated... There was a book back in the 70's (?) called "I know my name is Sam". This was about a boy who had been kidnapped when he was young (7-9), and years later he was recovered. After I read the true crime book, I went on the internet and followed the perpetrator (actually the whole story and family). The perpetrator went on to do time, and later got out and committed the same offense, his age at the time was in his 70's or 80's. This was after only seving 4-6 years for the crime. So no, there is no rehabilitation. Cut it off, I say. Or do the same crime to them that was committed against the victim.

And if that sounds harsh.....so the F* *k what. They never should have went there to start with. Think of the poor child who went through untold pain .

[Watch your language please]

I'm very much of the view that if someone is to physically, emotionally and mentally abuse an innocent child. What right do they have to a second chance? let alone a 3rd or 4th. That child will never have a chance to completely escape what was done to them, nor will the family of that child. I say castrate and cut off their hands...that way they will feel the crippling effect of their actions, and the world will see their guilt for the rest of their lives. If they require psychological help, give it...but I think they need to feel the physical pain and social rejection to gain anything close to justice for their victims. short answer to the original question: No.

I don't believe they can be. I think once an offender... always an offender. And what about these children?
Do most of you even have an clue what this does to a child's mind or their life?? IT NEVER GOES AWAY. I was molested for 4 year by an uncle and that was 25 years ago. I have been through couneling and a lot of other stuff to try to get through it and have a "normal" life. But you know what?.. The dreams don't stop and the flashbacks don't stop. I have blocked it out or the most part (not willingly) But as the bits & peices rsurface it is ust like being there again. It scares you to death. I agree with Bob on this one. No child should ver have to go through this. Because IT IS FOR LIFE. So, why should the offender have a normal life while the victim has to suffer? Believe me when I have the dreams/ flashbacks it is like I am 12 years old again...the fear, the anguish it is so real....just like it is happening all over again.
I think they are all very sick people and I don't believe there is any "real" help for them.

I think they have serious problems and deserve to be put back into reality the hard way ...... grrrr