IN GOD WE TRUST

Why does everyone want to get rid of those words so bad and who is it really hurting. I truly don't understand Americans today, can someone tell me why this is please.

I don't understand the way people think anymore, I think it's all about the mighty dollar in there pocket. But let one of the people that are trying to get rid of IN GOD WE TRUST get sick and the first thing that comes to mind is ,
God please help me. I really don't understand them

I don't see were I'm shoving anything down anyone's throats. That statement isn't and shouldn't be offensive to anyone. This is discussion and it doesn't have a limit on what we discuss in here. I have the right to believe in who and what ever I choose to believe in , that shouldn't offend anyone and if it does then they have the problem not me. If I'm correct this falls under FREEDOM OF SPEECH,A LAW MADE IN THE CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA so if you get mad because I ask that question then you have problem not me, sorry
I won't apologize for asking it.

Tracy is right. He's not offending anyone, and if you didn't like his board then you didn't need to come.

Thank you very much Alex

This is a big topic of discussion for us now adays, same as 'one nation under god'(Pledge) what about religions that do not believe in one god? this should sooo be removed from the pledge, same as getting rid of the getting sworn in at a courthouse whilst placing your hand on teh bible, not everyone is christian! im certainly not! this is so stupid! what differnce does it make for me to put my hand on a random book?

Crosses on grave stones is fine. same as having the star of david, but i think this country has evolved so it shouldnt be where the country is a protestant state as it basicly used to be.

its not right, they say its a free country with separation of church and state.. but its not. it really isnt!

Well it doesn't bother anyone or offend anyone to spend the money with" IN GOD WE TRUST" on it. Why should it offend anyone about this question. This is truly amazing
that someone could get so upset. Because it bothers some of us that still believe, If I can't believe in what I want to believe in then, why in the world are all of the men and women dieing everyday to defend this country.
They all have different religions and they stand side by side and fight for the the same thing everyday ,don't hear them saying that they are offended

Great point Bob I couldn't agree more .

My man theodore roosevelt wanted it taken off our currency. but before you judge him and whoever is taking it off think about this.

with currency saying "in god we trust" people buy pornography, drugs, alcahol, and the pleasant company of fornication.

God isn't gonna smile on a country if we have all this in here but he especially won't smile on the u.s. if we act like we're in god's will with hypocritical currency.

You can't say you're in God's will when you stop by the burlesque house and have a thrill while mamma bear and baby bears are at home. maybe they thought something different but i'm thinking to the best of my ability from god's and a great president's point of view.

in god we trust is not something to be taken lightly. the bible says that our god is a jealous god. he has struck people in the bible down for them just saying they're better.

and i'm sure once or twice in today's world god has struck someone down just for them taking his commandments lightly

Look, you all can judge me, i don't care. but don't play with god

I believe that those word should stay...>FOREVER!<

you really should get God in your life!

I understand your point , but I have no control over what people buy with there money, and if that makes God mad then he will deal with them. What I'm saying here is why should it offend anyone because of what we believe in. You go other countries say something about, they need to change there ways, you might get shot , so why can't everyone else adjust to our way of life. Thats my point, why should change to please everyone else.

Well it offends me. i'm an american, i'm a baptist, and it's like taking god's name in vain. the bible talks against it.

Thank you kisses

I'm baptist to, but I can't help what people do with there money, so stop and thank about all the drug money that has passed through your hands, before you jump on some else for speaking up. And don't say that no drug money has ever passed through your hands ,it does everyday, you thank about that.

It doesn't mean we have to like it. we don't have to tolerate it. i'm not cold for jesus, and i sure ain't lukewarm, and lord strike me down when i get used to using someone's drug money.

what's to stop the united states from being another wicked israel swept into babylonian captivity, or a wicked israel crushed by the romans, or a sodom and gommorah?

no sir, i can never and will never tolerate it or go along with it. my principles are clear

Good doggy.

I raise mine

Good debate. Not sure if it's necessary. It seems to only cause a lot of discord whenever it's mentioned. I don't see a problem with it as is. Most religions believe in some form of 'God' or higher power. Defining it with a specific God or religious figure like Jesus, Yahweh, Buddha, Allah, Ma'at, L. Ron Hubbard would just make the debate more heated. Equality doesn't mean "everybody gets exactly what will satisfy them at all times". What America stands for is "equal opporunity" which has nothing to do with some words in a pledge or on a piece of currency. Unless that's what "your god" stands for.

It has nothing to do with the currencies. It's about what we believe in and what we stand for.And if we just let them take everything we believe in away then what good are we to call our selfs a free country. Thats not being free, it's telling us what they want us to believe and I for one will not stand for it sorry.

HAHA! Idiotic Prime Minister is none other than my cousin.

You know, just because a country lacks a slogan such as "In God we trust" doesn't mean that the country or any of its inhabitants lack the capacity to believe in such a thing.

If you're so offended by them taking away said statement, then why is it wrong for others who don't believe to be offended by you who want it left alone?

Multiculturalism is growing, so why can't you?

I'm growing to believe that everything I stand for and believe is being taking away from me and personally I don't see where anyone that isn't a citizen should be offended.

Well it offends me. i'm an american, i'm a baptist, and it's like taking god's name in vain. the bible talks against it.

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To be honest david that offends me that you believe but you don't stand to defend your God, so really what is your point .

Multiculturalism is a growing force in America’s universities and public life. In brief, multiculturalism is the view that all cultures, from that of a spirits-worshiping tribe to that of an advanced industrial civilization, are equal in value.

Since cultures are obviously not equal in value—not if man’s life is your standard of value—this egalitarian doctrine can have only one purpose: to raze the mountaintops. Multiculturalism seeks to obliterate the value of a free, industrialized civilization (which today exists in the West and elsewhere), by declaring that such a civilization is no better than primitive tribalism. More deeply, it seeks to incapacitate a mind’s ability to distinguish good from evil, to distinguish that which is life promoting from that which is life negating.

We are opposed to this destructive doctrine. We hold that moral judgment is essential to life. The ideas and values that animate a particular culture can and should be judged objectively. A culture that values freedom, progress, reason and science, for instance, is good; one that values oppression, stagnation, mysticism, and ignorance is not.

now jordan the lines speak for them selfs

seeks to incapacitate a mind’s ability to distinguish good from evil, what I believe isn't evil.

"We" stands for everyone that has fought for this country
and what it stands for, and if you don't like what we stand for then it shouldn't affect "you". I'm not whining about anything ,just don't see why "we" should change what we stand for to make everyone else happy. Believe what you want and I'll do the same.Thats my right as long as I have rights. Thank you

So wait....you believe that an industrialized country is a free one?

Take a look around, man. You're not free - Industry controls you.

Industrialization is probably the worst thing that's ever happened to man.

Plus, if it's such a "free" world, then why would you want people who don't follow your beliefs to be subject to them 24/7?

Didn't ask all that asked a simple question , why is everyone making such a big deal out it ,if you don't believe ,then don't read and answer plain and simple

I thought this was an interesting e-mail to get from my stepmother so I decided to post it:

"Just one more example:

When I had to testify at the murder trial of my parents a week ago, I was asked to raise my right hand. The bailiff started out "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?"

I stood there and waited but she said nothing. She said "Do you?"

I was so stunned I blurted out "What happened to "so help me God'?"

She came back with "Do you?" I replied yes, but I was perplexed.

Then the judge said ............... "You can say that if you want to."

I stopped, raised my right hand, and finished with "So help me God!"

I told my son and daughter that when it came time for them to testify, they should do the same.

It's no wonder we have so many problems in this country. If I'd had my wits about me I'd have told them that taking God out of the courtroom is only going to result in more criminals and murderers like him being in there! I don't know what can be done about it, but it's time we stepped up and did something.

NBC this morning had a poll on this question. They had the highest number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls, and the percentage was the same as this: 86% to keep the words, 14% against. That is a pretty 'commanding' public response.

I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn... It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.

Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Why don't we just tell the 14% to Sit Down and be Quiet,..... for a change!!!

If you agree, pass this on, if not, simply delete....

In God We Trust ..............KEEP THIS MOVING"

Ok so it doesn't bother me that people want to keep the "so help me God" in this. what DOES bother me is people thinking that taking the word "God" out of things is really going to create sin and chaos. Because in reality "God" is not just a word, GOD is supposed to be a deity, a force that drives one to be the best they can be and to live by their religion's rules, whatever that may be. If someone has goodness in their heart, they do not need a WORD to live by that goodness. So if you believe in God and believe in his doings, then YOU keep the word, but don't force others to simply reiterate a word that has no meaning to them, whats the point of that? If anything, it detracts from the meaning. I can totally understand the frustration of the poster and how you want the world to hold on tight to the "In God We Trust" but I think something you should realize is that even if its not there on writing, in a courtroom, in a pledge, that it is within YOU and that nothing, no government, NOBODY can take that away from you. That being said, I am agnostic and I have no problems keeping the word "God" in anything, nor do I have problems taking "God" out of anything. I will still believe what I believe no matter how much people decide to skew things.

I agree with you on that and thank you for sharing that with us all, I also agree that we need to sometimes tell the other 14% to sit down and shut up for a change. But I also believe that our kids have the same rights to the same things that we did before they got taking away. It's getting to the point where the only place you are allowed to speak of God is in church, so where is the freedom there,isn't any, thats my point. So why is it so hard for people to understand that. thanks Queen

Thats my point .

Yeah to me I don't care.

Me dont nooooo lol

Look here tracy if you need a little piece of metal leading you to a certain belief then do your thing. but i'm not gonna claim that we're such a christian country. to do so would be to slander God, here's my point, a biblical view:

romans 3:10 "for there is none righteous no not one."
our country isn't the holiest thing on earth according to you.

romans 2:11 "for there is no respect of persons with God."
even if we keep in god we trust it doesn't matter, we're still the same in God's eyes

ephesians 5:6 "let no man decieve you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God, upon the children of disobedience."

if no one is righteous, and god is not a respector of persons, then if one person sins (which, everyone sooner or later sins) then those words on that coin are in vain, and the verse says the rest.

Personally tracy, your arguments are going nowhere, you rely on feelings instead of hard packed truth. and that alone won't win a debate.

not all of our nation's hero's were good little christian men like everyone paints them to be. thomas jefferson, writer of the declaration of independence was a deist. james madison believed in God in public but in private correspondance he denied all his beliefs.

Ben franklin, your charming inventer was a fornicating old man who had atleast one illegitimate son. alexander hamilton the founder of our modern finance system had an affair with a senators' wife.

before you paint our country as good and Godly to the roots, try learning more than whats on a history book summary.

I'm not really concerned about what they did,or forthat point what you do ,thats you, and as far as me going somewhere with this. Well I thank it speaks for it's self David ,so read it again.

NBC this morning had a poll on this question. They had the highest number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls, and the percentage was the same as this: 86% to keep the words, 14% against. That is a pretty 'commanding' public response.

I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn... It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.

Now you keep throwing your point in about God ,why are you not backing up your God. I rest my point with you.

My point is,

1. our country was not founded on the great righteous people you claim for it to have been

2. God is no respecter of persons and a little slogan isn't gonna change that

3. your beliefs your beliefs your beliefs, what about the muslims, or the hindus, or the bhuddists, or the atheists. are we united or religously divided?

4. freedom of speech and a separation of church and state, which means in god we trust is infringing on equality for all.

look buddy i can argue all day. i'm half and halkf on the whole "in god we trust" thing but don't paint yourself as some great conquerer for jesus.

if vindication for "your beliefs" is what you want try the conceited annonymous class down the hall

Don't paint yourself as some great conquerer for jesus.

First David I'm not painting anything for jesus, you or anyone else, just standing up for what I believe in, thats my point and to be honest with you. I could really care less what you are anyone else thinks of me for what I'm doing so if it makes you feel better, you throw the first rock at me, because until they kick out of here ,or delete my account, I'm going to speak my peace like it or not so get use to it buddy.