Should we legalise prostitution in the uk?

Ddavid, if you are going to quote me, at least do it properly, anyone who can read can see I said twice that I think sex should be about love, twice, in a small post. But off you go, labelling me the destroyer of love, how logical and well thought out of you.

Frooghe, you are even worse than Ddavid, because at least he presents a point of view, all your do is stir things up, with no ideas or thread relevant points? Why bother posting? And if you don't like my messages, then hit that complain button, or ignore them, it takes two to tango darling, not one.

Nicko, don't you know for yourself mate?

Ps, I am sorry once again to be clogging up a good debate with this nonsense, but I can't stand to see people mince my words so disgustingly out of context. rest assured I'll post again about the topic once someone says something of worth.

"The only thing that is genuine about you is your ridicules conviction that I am ddavidd.( how is that for oxymoron) and all because some other guy came with that idea now you have something to engage your little hid and seek play. So tell me do you want to play mod? Does playing a cowboy make you a hero in your little mind? If you have guts which we know you don't, do not use someone else's digestion system and come up with your own ideas."

Lol...This is soo funny.

Frooghe, I do not want to be a mod, and certainly from what I can see, you and Ddavid, were hoping to get it...Seeing as you presented this for no apparent reason.
Yes, someone else caught you in that game. But hey, it isn't that hard to spot you two. I mean your bad spelling mistakes, overuse of methaphorical language and your apparent hatred for Kevin, it isn't that hard to find. In fact, I was the first one to call you out several times, others merely provided the evidence to show it to you. And I think Sluvious did that.

I also find it quite odd, that every time ddavid, presented his views, you seem to come and bark at the ones that challenge it. It's funny.

Frooghe/Ddavid: You can call me what you want, but at least I know I don't make an account just to validate my own existance in P&Q, and to me you will always be pathetic and a person who uses bad colloquial language to prove a point..

Ciao...

Now back to the topic at hand:

I believe that there are sociological/criminological explanation to prostitution. Which are:

Exploitation: Poverty and inequality being the main factors to contribute to this

Functionalism states that prostitution is said to preseve social order

Learning: Prostitutes are ofcourse made, not born

Lol...Wow Ddavid...

I wrote a bankrupted idea...Well that's a new one. And here you mention Kevin (have I not said sluvious), as a sole person who actually accused you...Which leads me to believe you dislike him, which makes my post "NOT" bankrupted...Lol.

"So what? All those science shows; theft and mostly homicide are as the result of poverty too!"

Actually no, what "those" science shows is that there are factors which lead to the supposed crime/deviance. And they illuminate us to that...Duh!

"Now we shouldn't go and legislate them also, or should we?. Dear noir you either arguing over personal and brain dead ideas or come up with big and out of context words hoping people would get impressed or intimidated by them."

Now I haven't understood your first question...Well seeing as your grammer and spelling needs immense work...But I will humor you..What I am bringing into context is the fact that prostitution has come into fruition through the factors I broght forth.

I find it funny that you would say that I either come up with braindead ideas...Lol...Or that I bring out of context words to intimdate or impress people. Well actually what I am doing is evidencing or backing up my opinion, using social theories and idealogies. Can you do the same?

I guess not...Oh and frankly I think you are nothing more than a laughing stock of this whole discussion board...My friend. So please don't tell me how to type. Because I certainly don't need it from a person who obviously need to make an account to make people want to listen to him.

Ciao..

Ddavid, here is another quote from the same post I made that you keep unfairly referencing;

"Most people, including myself, would agree that sex should be done with someone you love, which makes it special, but it's not about love inherantly."

If you look at my whole post, you can see that I try to look at the subject with objectivity, try to see a few different angles, and I include my own thoughts [see above] about it. Therefor, it's unfair of you to claim I am in favour of souless sex without love, because i said the exact opposite. You made a mistake there which I have no corrected.

Don't ask people to judge me like some Avatar of righteousness, anyone who can read can see I am not in favour of the things you accuse me of. Just please read what I say, maybe even think about it before you post a reply out of context...again!

We must acknowledge our animal ancestry here. Animals do not have sex for love, only out of the urge to mate and the need to carry on the species. Humans are different, I know that [before you jump oon me for being a philistine Dave] but we share a massive amount of our bahaviours, drives and traits with our animal origins, and so, I think we should consider that impact in discussing this topic.

Ddavid. There as no contradiction in my post, only a wider picture and a balanced view.

The natural outcome of the sexual act, is the have babies, and the satisfy the sexual urge, this is a fact, indisputable if you know anything about biology and evolution. For this reason, sex, purely as an act, is not inherantly about love.

However, and this seems to be were you lose understanding, many people, myself included, think that sex without love is empty, and so sex should be done with someone you love.

Now, read that again. You should come to the understanding that I can say that sex is not about love, but that many believe it should be, which is their choice. This does not change the role of sex from a purely practical point of view.

Make no mistakes about my intention here, it's very plainly explained. I have never had sex with someone I didn't love, and I never will, that does not stop me knowing what sex is meant to be for, even if for me, and you too it seems, it has now become an expression of love and unity, of oneness and freedom.

it's still about making babies and surviving, surely you know this?

Is there anyone else reading this who understands me?

^^ good idea, and so well researched! : )

Noir loves me because I am like him, and that is also why he hates me, he was joking when he said I was a jerk, probably trying to woo you Frooghe, whoever you are.

^^Really...Should I have manners....Asha

I am all for shivalry but quite frankly how do I know that behind that female fascade lies a man wishing to be acknowledged...

Think and I suggest you do it soon...

Thank you Frooghe for apologizing for blurting out that I dislike Kevin...No really, I know he will forget about it in due time.

Frooghe: I don't care if you told Kevin or perhaps any person what I spoke to you about...It seems funny to think that I would tell another person I barely met, if not know, my dislike or infact my likes...

I just played the innocent card, and hey, you believed me to be a naive, bright young chap...Who hides behind a blanket of the mods, hoping they would reimburse me with their trust...Please! Just remember this is the "INTERNET"...And in here no man should tell their secrets unless they know they can use it.

^^Note to self: Do not send Frooghe any private messages.

Anyway, back to topic...I think prostitution is awful and I do not think prostitution should be legalized. I think making it legal would be a gift to pimps and traffickers, promoting sex trafficking. Legalization of prostitution would also send the message to new generations of men that women are just sexual objects and that prostitution is harmless fun.

Do you really think so Amanda?

I guess you have to weigh up how damaging prostitution is now, versus how you think it would be with proper laws and legislation governing it.

I think it would be better. Girls would be much safer, the men and women who visited the workers would feel less degraded, and perhaps, actually accepted as people who just want to have sexual relief, instead of perverts. The pimps we have now would find it much harder to force anyone to do anything, like young underage girls to sell themselves against their will.

I'm not saying prostitution is an ideal situation, I don't like it either but lets not push it further underground...light it up, control it, make it safer and better understood...and then maybe it might fade out a little.

Prostitution is horrid.

Sick.

"Kevin in your previous post I was so tempted to prove that you really don't think like that because: I see the trees, and I also see the wood"

Ddavid, I am not here to "get" you either, but the notion that you think you can prove anything about me which is contrary to what I have said about myself, is really hilarious, I'd love to see you do that man, really I would.

I believe in love with sex, better with, good without. Because I think you are off your rocket and have said so on many occasions, does not mean that I can't have some higher morals, why should this surprise you so much you think I'm lying? Curious, but then what isn't about you.

I say this not to offend, but, you keep making these crazy assumptions and I simply must respond with some sanity and logic. Ace it.

Ddavid. You can't say things that aren't true about people, and then get all upset when they challenge you, that is just not on.

It doesn't mean I want to argue with you every time I speak to you, it's just every post you make that references me is nonsense, and, being the kind of guy who doesn't like people like you saying things about me which are untrue on a public website, I post setting you straight.

And I'll do it every time you say something stupid and false about me, so, you know how to stop me challenging you right?

Actually Ddavid, what Kevin is saying is that your intrpretations of Kevin is false, and he is actually arguing with you...To set you straight. But yet again you seem to fail at that...

Man...I guess when it comes down to it, you ddavid have an egomanical personality thinking your vapid words are saintly. And Kevin thinks that his words and wit will actually *NOT* be intrepreted falsely..

Quite a conundrum....

So here we have a situation where if anyone asks you, Ddavid, to not badly reference them out of context, and say things that are not true about them, they are getting mad at you?

My last post was not a rant, i wasn't swearing or threatening you with my Mod status.

I was asking you to be fair in what you write about me, nothing more.

Ddavid. How come Nicko can say the same thing as me, that sex isn't about love, but that he wishes it was, and you agree with him, but when I say it, I'm a dark soul intent on destroying goodness and hurting you?

I called your actions stupid, because I don't think it's smart to misquote someone, and then insult them when they correct you? What is wrong with that?

I actually liked what you said about aiming for a better ideal, I think we should do this as well, through education. People need to understand their sexual natures, accept them and intergrate them into a healthy adult life which is counter balanced with the needs of the larger society.

However, that will take time, so in the meantime, we need to work with what we have, and that means decreasing the dangers inherant in prostitution, until we get closer to that ideal. That is all i was saying.

I am not Satans Minion, not the Mod from hell...I really wish you'd stop being so dramatic.