KERRY GETS INVOLVED in Ohio recount - FINALLY!

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    1 - this is from Keith Olbermann's daily email newsletter, just received!

    The Kerry-Edwards campaign has filed legal documents in a one Ohio County --Delaware County -- to intervene as a party defendant. The motion filed on Tuesday and obtained by NBC News marks the first time the Kerry-Edwards campaign has joined the legal wrangling in Ohio in any formal fashion.

    2 Washington Post
    - Kerry Team Seeks to Join Fight to Get Ohio County to Recount
    Wednesday, December 1, 2004; Page A08

    Sen. John F. Kerry's presidential campaign asked an Ohio judge yesterday to allow it to join a legal fight there over whether election officials in one county may sit out the state's impending recount.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23344-20...

    3 - "We welcome the support of the Kerry-Edwards campaign for the recount"

    Greens, Libertarians press on with recount plans
    Chris Graham

    Ohio judge's ruling preventing a recount of presidential votes in one Buckeye county has reportedly attracted the attention of the John Kerry campaign.

    http://www.augustafreepress.com/stories/storyReader$291...

    http://www.democraticunderground.com

  • Krete
    20 years ago

    He lost. Give up already.

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    Not if the recounts say Kerry won, then Kerry will take office.

    http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

  • !*!Zoe!*!
    20 years ago

    Did you know that in some counties in Ohio there were something like 3, 893 votes for Bush but only 483 registered voters, or something like that??

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    Plain Dealer: Kerry wins Cuyahoga...maybe more than we know...

    maybe already posted...

    http://www.cleveland.com/election/plaindealer/index.ssf...

    (the emerging picture)

    A focus of Monday's testimony was three lists containing names and addresses of 495 voters whose provisional ballots were rejected, according to an analysis led by Dr. Norman Robbins, a neurosciences professor at Case Western Reserve University who volunteered for the Greater Cleveland Voter Registration Coalition.

    The first list held names of 32 rejected voters the coalition said it reliably registered and delivered to the elections board. The names never made it onto the rolls or were entered incorrectly, Robbins said.

    The second list contained 201 rejected voters who were on county voter registration rolls Aug. 17 but had dropped off by Oct. 26. They may have inadvertently been dropped, perhaps during a September software change, Robbins said. Elections Director Michael Vu said he doubts that happened.

    The third list contained 183 voters who were on rolls Oct. 26 but given provisional ballots and rejected as not registered. Another 79 were rejected because they didn't sign the provisional ballot, which Robbins maintains they should never have had to use. Vu said he would review the lists Robbins provided and wished he had had them sooner. He also plans a study of the more than 6,000 voter registration cards dropped on the board of elections after the registration deadline. Many of those voters may have gone to the polls unaware the Get-Out-The-Vote group that registered them failed to turn in their cards on time rightly landing their provisional ballots in the discard pile.

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    Now when the larger counties have their votes come in, Kerry will win even though he consided. UNLESS the supream court steps in and pulls the same stuff as last year. Then of course Satan is our president.

  • Jacki
    20 years ago



    http://www.troyrecord.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13472703...

    Absentee ballot count adds 150 Kerry votes

    Bush, Nader tallies in Milwaukee also boosted

    Sen. John Kerry picked up 150 votes in the city of Milwaukee on Tuesday after results from previously uncounted absentee ballots were factored into official vote totals.

    President Bush gained 38, while independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader tallied one more vote.

  • Krete
    20 years ago

    Listen Jacki, Kids, its okay to lose.

    I say this out of the kindness and compassion of my heart, even if Kerry were to 'gain' Ohio through this 'incredibly' farse recount, he wouldnt have enough electoral votes to win.

    And on note of the over registered voters per county and vote screw up, that is entirely fictional.

    Have a good day ;)

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    BUT if Ohio goes to KERRY then the electoral votes are taken away from bush and given to Kerry. Thus, Making Kerry having more electoral votes.

    Also you are right it is ok to lose. If Bush wins all is well, we are being controlled by satan again. Did you hear about Patriot Act 2....Why on Earth would americans give up their freedoms because of him? We are turning into Natzi Germany, NOW.....

  • Jacki
    20 years ago

    What is the Patriot Act 2 if you havn't heard are are wondering, well here's a brief description of it.

    * Americans could have their citizenship revoked, if found to have contributed "material support" to organizations deemed by the government, even retroactively, to be "terrorist." As Hentoff wrote in the Feb. 28 Village Voice: "Until now, in our law, an American could only lose his or her citizenship by declaring a clear intent to abandon it. But -- and read this carefully from the new bill -- 'the intent to relinquish nationality need not be manifested in words, but can be inferred from conduct.'" (Italics Hentoff's.)

    * Legal permanent residents (like, say, my French wife), could be deported instantaneously, without a criminal charge or even evidence, if the Attorney General considers them a threat to national security. If they commit minor, non-terrorist offenses, they can still be booted out, without so much as a day in court, because the law would exempt habeas corpus review in some cases. As the American Civil Liberties Union stated in its long brief against the DSEA, "Congress has not exempted any person from habeas corpus -- a protection guaranteed by the Constitution -- since the Civil War."

    * The government would be instructed to build a mammoth database of citizen DNA information, aimed at "detecting, investigating, prosecuting, preventing or responding to terrorist activities." Samples could be collected without a court order; one need only be suspected of wrongdoing by a law enforcement officer. Those refusing the cheek-swab could be fined $200,000 and jailed for a year. "Because no federal genetic privacy law regulates DNA databases, privacy advocates fear that the data they contain could be misused," Wired News reported March 31. "People with 'flawed' DNA have already suffered genetic discrimination at the hands of employers, insurance companies and the government."

    * Authorities could wiretap anybody for 15 days, and snoop on anyone's Internet usage (including chat and email), all without obtaining a warrant.

    * The government would be specifically instructed not to release any information about detainees held on suspicion of terrorist activities, until they are actually charged with a crime. Or, as Hentoff put it, "for the first time in U.S. history, secret arrests will be specifically permitted."

    * Businesses that rat on their customers to the Feds -- even if the information violates privacy agreements, or is, in fact, dead wrong -- would be granted immunity. "Such immunity," the ACLU contended, "could provide an incentive for neighbor to spy on neighbor and pose problems similar to those inherent in Attorney General Ashcroft's Operation TIPS."

    * Police officers carrying out illegal searches would also be granted legal immunity if they were just carrying out orders.

    * Federal "consent decrees" limiting local law enforcement agencies' abilities to spy on citizens in their jurisdiction would be rolled back. As Howard Simon, executive director of Florida's ACLU, noted in a March 19 column in the Sarasota Herald Tribune: "The restrictions on political surveillance were hard-fought victories for civil liberties during the 1970s."

    * American citizens could be subject to secret surveillance by their own government on behalf of foreign countries, including dictatorships.

    * The death penalty would be expanded to cover 15 new offenses.

    * And many of PATRIOT I's "sunset provisions" -- stipulating that the expanded new enforcement powers would be rescinded in 2005 -- would be erased from the books, cementing Ashcroft's rushed legislation in the law books. As UPI noted March 10, "These sunset provisions were a concession to critics of the bill in Congress."

    http://www.alternet.org/story/15541

  • Krete
    20 years ago

    You guys give me such a good laugh :)