The right to die.

If you know your going to and/are losing your mind. If you know the terror of not being able to tell whats real and whats just in your head, and you feel yourself slipping back into madness. Should you have the right to end your suffering?

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that's a hard question, i believe that everyone has the right to die... but also , suicide causes so much pain amongst the people you know that i believe it is wrong....

sorry if that didn't really help :)

But if it saves those you care about from seeing you lost...it might be the best thing

What about you? Are you saying you could handle going mad? Are you saying your family could? There are things worse the death, you just havn't experienced them. And if suicide is murder, then better to murder yourself before you do anything else to harm someone.

Lol, this isn't a contest of whose life is worse. Pain will haunt everyone in life, but death isn't cowardly or selfish, it just is.

He chose to try, but all must be willing to face the chance of hurting others. Wrong and right is for a person to decide. Whether others argee or not doesn't matter if you don't want it to. No one understands themselves better then you, and nothing anyone thinks or says can chance that. He was wrong becuse you think and maybe others think he was, but it won't change what he did. He belives he was right, I can't say either way.

Please, no fighting. I only want to hear what you think on this matter. And the right to die in any case can be used.

Of Course every one should be able to live, but what if they don't want too?

I agree, being dumped isn't a good reason by its self. But it could signal the end of any hope they had left. This mixed with other pain and hopelessness can push them over the edge. One must ask themselves if they have any hope for a better future.

Right or wrong its her choice. But one should always take time to really think stuff over, look for other ways to solve problems. I don't need you to agree with me, I want to know what you think.

But can you say you could go through life never being happy? Can you say if you thought it was the only way out you wouldn't take it? We never can fully know how these people think or fell, so we can't truely judge them.

Yes, but I want to understand why you feel the way you do about it.

Gift to some....curse to others.

I didn't mean to, some just see it that way.

Good, never let anyone tell you your veiws are wrong. The very fact that they are yours means they should be heard and taken into consideration. My views and others may be diffrent, but no one is right or wrong about how they feel.

Thank you for you imput, and patience.

Having the right to die is like being able to choose your own religion. It should be viewed as acceptable, if it's what that person wants to do, but it's mostly not.

Do you belive suicide is a sin even if it stops people from suffering?

Thats not wrong cause its ur choice.

but why ?
why not face the problem...
all great solutions are made by problems??
(or is mistake? :))

some times pain eats you when youre just letting it remain.. i took it out with a ball... out thereshooting some hoops..

The way I see it, suicide is a right. You were not asked if you wanted to be born, correct? So what if you never wanted to be?

And if you think about it, people will get over it. They always do. They don't brood; they move on.
In ten years youre just a name and plant fertilizer.

I think people who say that suicide is selfish should rethink themselves. Alot of people truly don't understand; they are just ignorant. But we can't blame them for that, can we?

I think Suicide is selfish.. And i'm not ignorant just because I think so. Suicide is not right.. When you are born you dont know you are.. How can you say "if you wanted to be born" we dont know if we want to be born or not. Its not our choice its God's choice. I'm not trying to push my belieifs of God on anyone else either.. Just my opinion.. anyway i dont think you have the right to call people ignorant just because they have diffenent beliefs then you. As for Death is someones right.. MY VIEW on this is No its not your right. As someone said up there Life is a Gift you should live it to the fullest. I dont think anything could get that bad to kill yourself, Im not talking about terminal Illness either. I dont think just becaue your boyfriend broke up with you, you should kill yourself. of if you have gone mad. Just deal with it and get on with your life.

I think this is a idiotic thread. The question is a perfectly reasonable question. Then in jump all the self rightous all knowing dorks who think they should have a say in what everyone else does. Butt out...... if you want to live to the fossil age go on and have yourself soaked in liquid carbon.

If I ever decide I don't want to live any longer it will be my choice not any of yours. As for being selfish well forcing my opinions on others would be far worse on the arrogance level.

On another topic those that kill themselves for what seems like trivia to you... selfish no.... insanity yes.

Wow, I never expected so many people to read this. Thank you all for your opinions and thoughts. Now when do you think suicide is right? (if at all).

But if you were hurting them this last time instead of suffering in front of them for god knows how long, would you do it?

So you'd hurt your loved ones over and over rather then one last time?

If you see some one you love suffering doesn't it hurt you? Don't you wish you could help? What if the only way was to let them take their life?

Idk I mean last november i was really close to just killing myself and getting it all done with. i felt like there was no hope and that it hurt more to be alive and stuff. But now i think that suicide isnt always the answer. But its your life so you get to chose what you want to do with it, but depending on what you do you dont exactly get to go back on your choices..idk if that helped
~Elizabeth

I don't really feel like getting into an argument right now.
My one thing is don't judge anyone who commits suicide. You don't know what they have lived through. Even if you think so, you've never been inside their head. What haven't they said out loud that they are dealing with? You may say now that you would never do it, but i believe there is a breaking point on everyone and until you have reached that point, you wouldn't understand what its like. Disagree if you like, don't believe in it, thats your right. But don't judge the people that have made that decision. just my two cents.

Ok, I really like how people just jumped on my case for expressing my own opinion..

sure, it's alright for YOU to accuse people of being selfish for just wanting to end their own misery, but when someone makes a general statement about how you MIGHT be ignorant, you go nuts! Talk about hypocrisy..

Suicide is a right, plain and simple. what are you gonna do about it? Condemn a ghost?? Sheesh

It's your right to commit suicide. However it is morally wrong to leave you loved ones to have to suffer through your demise.

No i was not going "nuts" because you said that.. i simply said that I am not ignorant because i stated my opinion that Suicide is not right.. By what i got from your statement you were saying that anyone with the opinion of suicide not being right is ignorant.. Which is wrong.. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. The original poster of this topic asked for views and i gave him mine.

I realize this is a hard this to talk about and many feel strongly about it. Some think death should come in its own time,but what if thats how its suppost to happen?

I'm sorry, I make general starements because I'm talking to everybody. And yes, I've known people who have committed suicide. And I ask this, if it wasn't their time then would they be dead?

I think that if you have the right to have abortions and other personal decisions you should be able to take your own life. its yours you decide what to do with it.

Committing suicide is like forgetting you have ANYBODY who cares about you, or could. Shellfish selfish. Whoever disagrees is obviously in the whole "I actually tried or am trying to commit suicide so I'm going to rule out other peoples feelings and only think of my own no matter how much I've thought this over there's no solution and nobody means anything to me anymore." BREATHE.

So, those people don't WANT to die, they never get the feeling where they WANT to die, they just do it because they have false depression? OF COURSE THEY DO, that's why they try! They'd rather not survive. They'd rather not stay, and live their one chance at life, when anything could happen if they let it, they take their own life. It's not cancer eating them up inside. It's not a physical illness. It's their choice, and their choice, is selfish if they have those who care for them. It's not their 'time'. If it was their 'time' so many people wouldn't be here today. It's a stupid way of thinking. Some people need to calm down and realise people love them, and that decision, is stupid. Problems can be solved. Not by whimping out. So many people would disagree with you on the whole cancer goes hand in hand with KILLING YOURSELF.

Some people think suicide is "wrong" or a right. But its deeper then that. Its easy to look at something and make a judgement without understanding it.

I have Depression.. (you can tell from just reading my poems). Yes i have pain. Yes i have hurt. Yes i have anger.. But i DONT want to kill myself.. Its stupid.. I'm sorry.I dont care anymore you people can yell at me for saying this. I cant stay quite anymore.. Killing yourself HURTS your family. it hurts everyone around you..

"If you've never felt that kind of pain then you'll never understand."

i understand and i think killing yourself is Selfish and stupid..

"I just want people to understand that really when someone gets into that mentally state thats the only option for them"

Its not the only option. I know becasue i have gone through depression. Never tried to kill myself but i know what it feels like to be depressed ok.

You guys keep saying God.. I'm sure God does not want people to die like that.. It is the cowards way out. its not in Gods will for people to die that way. Its not like Cancer or a car accient. In those you dont have a choice to die.. In suicide it is a choice. You dont HAVE to kill yourself. Yes i know its NOT a choice to get depression. but it is a choice to kill yourself or not. I just dont understand how people are saying it is not a choice when clearly it is..

I know it hurts ok i am dealing with those same feelings. But please if anyone is trying to kill themselfs talk to someone. Please dont do it. I will even give up my time to try to talk to you.

I dont know what i'm talking about. Ok.. I have felt depression. I had like 5 or 6 deaths in my family within the year. one of which was a suicide.IT HURTS THE FAMILY, He had children they are a wreak because daddy decied to kill himself. How do you think they feel huh? I have had my nephew and neices taken away from me because my brothers ex wife is a psycho bi***. I got called horrible names on a regular basis all my life. I got made fun of in elementry school just because i was not like every other kid. Do you want me to go on? Got made fun of in highschool because i never had the "cool" clothes. My boyfriend broke up with me becaue he was out of love with me. My mother screams at me every day to do better. to get better grades, to get a job to do this to do that. I got in a car accident a couple weeks ago and now my back hurts like hell so Dont F**king tell me i have no clue. Dont tell me i dont know what i'm talking about. because i do.

Sorry for going off like that. but i cant stand when people tell me that suicide is not a choice. it hurts me becaue i have had people in my family that killed themself.

Well maybe those friends were not your real friends.. If it was my friend that was trying to kill herself you better beleive that im going to try to help her. You have to think. At least you have 4 people who love you. what would it do to them if you killed yourself. and i'm not trying to judge you I'm trying to help you. You just pissed me off when you told me i have no clue. if you want to talk i will talk to you. maybe we can even become friends.. i would really like that. If so just pm me and i can give you my email address. I find that talking to people that actucally care does help. Oh and i know how you feel. My mom does not beleive me that im depressed. My friend when i tryed to tell her she changed the subject. My brother does not listen. noone does. But i know just becaue they dont listen it does not mean they dont care. sometimes people dont know what to think and they ignore. i know its hard to understand but its true.. Sorry for getting all pissed but i dont take it Lighty when people tell me suicide is not selfish.