The right to die.

Going mad -- how I feel about 24/7 of the time. But why kill yourself? You don't find the answers that way. Madness, to me, anyway, is simply missing a piece of the puzzle. When you're missing something, moping about it sometimes happens, but to really solve things, I'd have to go out and find it. Which might lead to more madness or I might actually get somewhere. Maybe there's very little difference between the two.

As for assisted suicide..hm..mhh...ee, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole.

Can i just say that this "bleeding for his amusement" person is the most ignorant person ive ever met ?
experience something before you get so judgmental

Ingorant or not I ask how people felt about this. Not everyone is going to agree on this and thats fine as long as they say what they feel.

I never said CANCER OR ILLNESSES were choices, I mean suicide! Jeez that should be obvious. I'm not sadist.

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are you serious.

And if she is? She has a right to say what see feels.

LOL. Then she's sadist, and so are you for just 'letting her have her opinion.' There's a line between what's humane to have as an opinion, and what isn't, and she's crossed that line. Jesus christ whatiswrongwithpeoplethesedays.

So she can't have that opinion? Who are we to say what people can and cannot think?

This is my round room.......

..What I'm talking about is whether she thinks it's right for FUN, or for FOOD. If it's for fun, then she IS sadist; and there's something wrong with her. Anyways I don't care, it's not part of the topic. BYE.

Would anyone try to stop someone from suicide even if that would end that persons suffering?

Umm... Solus - just from briefly reading through this thread - I can see about 1000 answers to this question... seriously - even tho Im totally against it, after reading this same question repeated over and over again... even I am almost considering suicide to put myself out of my misery of reading anything else from you...

... and I also think suicide is selfish. :)

LOl.....well as long as I keep getting answers, I will still ask questions.

Oooo - death by toilet seat!! That is so original!!!! ;)

hahaha

'Suffering'. What exactly is the 'suffering' they're going through? Things can be solved, 'suffering' is just the lazy way of saying 'I'm giving up'. If in a bad situation, stop crying and solve it; can't solve it? Should you even be in the situation? And the past is the past, we all know that, but some people are too obsessed with the depression they think they're having, they like to hold onto the bad memories, as a reason and a so-called cause for their 'suffering', just because they can't GET OVER IT and LET IT GO. There's nothing they can do to erase the past, and problems are there to fix, so really, the "suffering" is in their head. UNLESS they're starving, homeless etc, where there aren't so many solutions, but I don't think suicide is right. Ever.

I dont think suicide is right either.

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post obve me. very well put.

You know asking if someone has the right to die is a hard question, law is agaisnt it for the fact that the person should at least try to get help, and such, and it shouldn't be the last resort. But I think personally that the right is yours. your decision. But then again it also depends on your reasons for the thought... hmm... you've brought up a really good topic here.....

I don't think that you should end your suffering. It's a stupid mistake. There's nothing on this earth that should make you want to kill yourself. If it is something, i'm sure it can be fixed. Try to get some help and it can all work out. Pray.

Some people have no faith, and not everything can be fixed. What can they do then to end the suffering?

I haven't read all these posts, but all I will say is this.

Suicide isn't always selfish. When many people are thinking of suicide and take their lives, they are not in their right mind. Some of them, would never have even have thought of suicide up until a few moments before they do it.

It is really difficult to fight with the idea of suicide in your head. To make them feel guilty and like they are selfish for even thinking of it, is wrong.

Many of them do not want to hurt anyone emotionally, and their mind is telling them that if they take their lives, that it will be much easier on everyone else.

Of course, no one else would agree but it doesn't matter.

Now do people have a right to take their own lives? even if they are going mad? I will not say they have the right. I think it should be avoided at all costs. But if a person chooses that route, I cannot hold it against them. And I don't think anyone else should either. Because I am sure they tried.

I'm sure this doesn't really help much, but its my opinion.

It does. All I ever wanted was poeple to share their thoughts on this.

Blood Angel, I don't know what country you're from, but in the United States suicide is illegal.
Assisted suicide, well, is a question of great debate, but the books have it that it is Murder, and therefore, also illegal. Though recently acquitted, Dr. Kevorkian did go to prison for his crimes. And he won't be practicing medicine again anytime soon.
Granted, suicide is the one crime that can't really punish the perpetrator, but it royally screws over the family/benefactors financially because insurance companies recognize it as a crime and therefore don't support it. There is a question whether it should be a crime at all, because it only punishes the innocent. But in few rare cases of blatant negligance, punishment seems deserved.

And what if those who want to end their life view life as punishment? What then, let them suffer?

^ I never did understand how suicide could be illegal? What are they gonna do to me? Bury my corpse in a prison? Like I'd give a damn. If I decide tommorow morning: "Right, lovely day. I'm gonna blow my brains out." Then I should be able to. I should not have to sit there and suffer because congress said no.
Some people view it as the easy way out. But obviously if their life is bad enough to entice them to suicide then it's a whole hell of a lot harder than yours so shut your trap.
All ye Bible-thumpers. Faith and praying ain't gonna help an atheist. God isn't gonna help a Buddhist or a Neo-Pagan. And it won't help you either. If life is hard enough to make you feel like life is hopeless then you aren't going to be to happy with your 'benevolent' God who is makin' life hell for you. So you're gonna lose faith and blow your brains out... or you're gonna blow your brains out just to spite him.

'Life as a punishment'. Ha, what a sick statement. That's your own fault if you consider it a punishment, your parents concieved you and now you're here, it's not the Devil handing you out bad luck. Get over yourself, seriously. That's really pathetic.

And anyway, suicide is mainly illegal because it's encouraging confused teenagers going through a phase to not end their life for no reason whatsoever but hormones. Plus, what if you make it through your suicide attempt? Then you'll be stuck in jail. So boo hoo.

Not the devil handing you bad luck, I couldn't agree more. Than who? Only god....but that in of its self is no reason to die. I speak of truly suffering.

And what if those who want to end their life view life as punishment? What then, let them suffer?

No, suggest therapy. And anti-depressants. Lifestyle or attitude changes. Try to get them help. If the feelings of "punishment" is due to a physical or mental disability, or some other action not of the person's choosing, i.e. real victims, they deserve encouragement and aid.

Other times, I've found, people who percieve "life as punishment" are merely the "victims" of karma, but if they're sincerely repentant, we shouldn't give up on them.

Granted, some people are more obstinate than others, and will just do it whether someone reaches out or not.

And if they tried everything and it still doesn't help? Do we leave them to their own personal hell because we refuse admit sometimes death can be a release?

Some people may find peace in death, and if they really want it, they won't let anyone stop them. Or life will eventually catch up to them. Nobody lives forever.

Not everyone really lives...

:-(

I've made a little conclusion. All you are is desperate for everybody to agree with you. Oh, poor you, POOR you you're so sad, you're just so sad. Get over it. Just seriously get the hell over it. You're so 'sad' because you're focusing on this, it's like you have this obsessive disease where you have to let EVERYONE know what you're going through and then you want them to put thought into WHY you feel like it. I'll tell you why, it's because you intentionally, subconsciously or not, tear yourself apart, whether for attention or whatever, I dunno, but that's what it seems like. It seems like you argue back to anything disagreeing with your depression, and that you HAVE to have it.

God never gave you a punishment, life itself is living, if anybody gave you a punishment it was you. You revolve yourself around depressing thoughts, and act as though you're the most misfortunate person on the planet. What exactly could you have done during your mother's pregnancy that you deserve hell on earth? Nothing. Your brain is making up excuses for attention seeking.

'Bladdy blah blah, if it's not the devil handing me bad luck it's God, because it can never be me; oh no, it can never be MY fault.'

What exactly is the everything you've tried? If everything is making yourself think about nothing but how to keep yourself down.

Your only problem is hoping for a permanent problem so you always have a reason to complain.

THAT is the only thing I comprehend from any of your posts. If I'm wrong and way off base, whatever, it's all you've been showing us.

My isn't this post thread intresting....

Does someone have a right to do...Well ofcourse, it's your body, you can do whatever you wish with it...

I find it funny that people abhor another person's choice...But then aren't we all judgemental little hypocrites...Lol...Quite funny..

How is it hypocritical? Judgemental, perhaps, but in regards to taking a person's life, if the person makes that "choice", I might judge it as a bad one. Unless they were in a lot of prolonged incurable pain, and didn't want to die in a hospital (it's a common fear, *shrugs*).

Its ok, he can say what he thinks. I don't care what people think about me.

You may think that this life is far worse than 'the other side'......well.....How the hell do you know that???
hav u ever seen the other side?
I heard that ppl that suicide go to hell because its like saying to God: "YOU CAN'T FIRE ME, I QUIT!!"
Suicide is more than death, or a coward action. Its risking your whole existing. what if there is no other side???
What do suicidal ppl hope to find with their death? a better world?? i dont think someone will give those a gift if they didnt appreciate this one.

SUICIDE IS WRONG. PERIOD.

Yeah, but if there is a god, and he is all-forgiving, I think it depends on the reasons for suicide, and I have a hard time believing that a person in so much pain that they would take their own life, would have to go to hell. that's not justice, that's vengeance. if there is a god, I have a very hard time believing that he's not all-forgiving, just, and merciful.

I don't believe anybody who commits suicide for a completely selfless reason (although that's unlikely) or if their life is completely hopeless and not helping anyone and they're on the streets etc, that if they commit suicide they go to hell. truly GOOD people go to heaven; and only god can judge that. just because you commit a so-called sin, that was invented by humans, doesn't mean you'll go to hell. it just means what you feel and think inside and how good you are and treat other people is what makes you go to heaven.

To me its a question of how much the people in your life mean to you because suicide effects everyone in your life (and i have a poem showing my veiws on suicide) but i also realize that suicide is not ment to hurt the people in your life i think most that do are trying to get ride of the pain you feel you put on your friends and family

I know there is many things worse then death but i won't be able to deside i would talk to my friends and family because it effects them just as much if not so even more so. So in the end i really say just to talk to everyone it effects