Haiku / Senyru

  • swill
    17 years ago

    Okay. So I believe that haiku and senyru should not be restricted to a 5-7-5 syllabic count.

    My reasons?

    www.ahapoetry.com
    www.tinywords.com <---check what is a haiku, here

    Please read it up if you wish to defer...

  • swill
    17 years ago

    Haiku

    1) An unrhymed Japanese poem recording the essence of a moment. Nature is combined with human nature. It usually consists of three lines of 5/7/5 (5 kana in the first line, 7 kana in the second line, and 5 kana in the third line) totaling seventeen kana.

    2) A foreign adaptation of 1, usually written in three lines totaling 17 syllables or LESS.

    As you will notice, there are two definitions. Definition #1 is where many get confused. People tend to confuse kana or a single unit in the Japanese language with the English syllable.

    This is like comparing apples to oranges. Kana cannot be compared to syllables.

    Unless you are Japanese, have been writing Japanese, or speak fluent Japanese, you will be writing definition #2.

    The difference between the two is that in definition #2, you will be writing three lines of poetry, 17 syllables or LESS.

    This means you do not have to write three lines of 5/7/5 (5 syllables in the first line, 7 syllables in the second line, and 5 syllables in the third line). You may do so, if you can do it well without fluff words (many can't). If you write 5/7/5, that does not make your poem more of a haiku than someone who does not write 5/7/5.

    An ideal haiku should be short/long/short - but that depends on the haiku itself. There is nothing wrong with 5/7/5, if that is what you want to write. However, the majority of modern haiku in most of the journals are not 5/7/5. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have its place.

    However, it is all "haiku," not "haiku" and "other." It's just haiku. If you like, you can refer to 5/7/5 as "traditional" -- but even that is not entirely accurate, as it is quickly becoming more traditional to veer away from 5/7/5. The plural of haiku is also haiku, NOT haikus.

    After you have been writing and studying haiku for a while, you may be ready to break a rule. This is fine, if it is needed to improve the quality of an individual haiku.

    However, before breaking any haiku rule, you must learn and practice the rules.

    Then after you are more experienced, you can determine which rule, if any, you want to break on occasion.

    Break rules out of experience, not inexperience.

    ^^^^^

    A very interesting piece by Gary Jurechka that pertains to my arguement....Gary, if you wish I do not post this here, please tell me, and I shall remove it.