Kids of Evolution

We talk about changes in the world for example bullying and harrassment. But where does it all start? A child can't just be born to harrass other children. No of course not. But it can learn.
Monkey see Monkey do.
Ever heard of 'like mother, like daughter?' Well BINGO! cause that's the root of the abuse. A child doesn't just learn to walk and talk but it learns everything from their mentor.
If a child has a teacher for a parent it is most likely he/she will be brilliant.
If a child has an alcoholic father and a physically abusive mother then that child would probably be an abusive child and eventually turn to drugs and alcohol to live with being alone.

Sort of obvious really....

"Is entertainment killing our kids? Or are parents killing their kids for their entertainment" - Manson

Good argument...

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And the mentor learned it from their mentor, and theirs from theirs, mm? You're giving a causal argument, but no suggestion on how to break the cycle.

Emotional hurt, and anger building up inside for years, can lead a child to become violent.
the source of this pain and anger is relative to each case.

This might be off the subject a tad, but like along the lines of what Bleeding For His Amusement said, My mother was/is a HUGE drug user. And thanks to her I know I will never ever touch a drug in my life. I don't need to try the drug to learn from the experience... I saw them first hand... you know?
I think that it isn't just our parents... "monkey see monket do" neither media, nor the people we look up to... or the history of our family... but a simple mixture. And since little children soak up everything we do around them.... thats where they get it from... so see we cant just pin point one person or thing... when it is an equal mixture.

I agree that some of us actually learn from our parent's mistakes (or just generally people around us)..because we know what it can cause and we don't want people around us to suffer the same way we did when we were little by repeating the same wrong behaviours (sp?).

Isn't it like father, like daughter ? But that's irrevlavent (sp?), so anyway . I think it really depends on the person and how they accept and perceive the world .

The people I'm surrounded by ... The ones with the parents who abuse them come out nice and extremely kind-hearted . Only a couple of them come out violent . The ones with the alcoholic/druggie parents, grow to not want to, and normally don't, drink alcohol or do drugs . While the others I know with the pretty healthy, not poor, families are the ones that end up smoking, drinking, and poppin' e and crap .

I find it somewhat intriguing, but I do agree with Mike with the whole teen pressure thing . Definitely . I think parents only slightly influence it -- but again, it depends .

My Dad is a alchoholic and a Drugie And abusive and he walked out on us! even tho hes not around my bro turned Abusive towards me and he does drugs and parties 2 much! i think that the person doesn't even need 2 be around to influence the kid i think knowing there parent did it means they think its alright 4 them 2 do it! and i ttly think that their is something wrong wif dat!

Like I said before, its not one sided... its not JUST peers, parents,teacher,or media, but the combination, of adult figures, ie...homer simposn (for ex.) That tell younger kids, and some times teens that its okay... so they do it. And the bad part is when they DO get caught and the parent lets them off the hook, because that just teaches them they can do whatever they want and there is no punishment. And if the parents say there will be a punishment but does not take action, you leading the kids to belive that you are full of empty threats.
Sometimes the kids are doing it for attention to... ( I DONT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE DR. RUTH...) but thats why communication is key, to any healthy relationship. Even if it isn't a parent I believe a kid/teen whatever, should have some sort of adult to confide in. And have a promise to keep it between them as long as the kid/teen in question is not harming him/herself or someone else, and someone else is not harming them.

Pretty good argument I guess. True for me, my father beat me and my mum didn't give a damn to protect me. The consequences is I became a drunkard and I used drugs. Two stupid moves but when you feel like no one cares then you don't care either. Also since my dad beat me I took my anger and frustration out on other kids who were innocent of any offense and seriously hurting them.
However another consequence is that I now strive to be a good parent. So the abuser creates abuser chain isn't definate.

Awe! im sry^^^ but... its good u'd try 2 be a good rolemodel now!

A very good argurment to bring up wings of flames.
I agree with you fully, Everything a child learns is from the parent, mentor.

Either way, very good topic.

I do agree with some of your arguments but to a child parent is god...adn whatever they do seems right...and then friends come into the picture..who may change their prospective or influence it in the wrong direction.

Also the media does change their path but mostly to their self esteem levels and exterior.
Someone said that parents only change their child in a small way thats plain wrong...if you didnt see your parents walk where would you learn? not liek any ones gonna just adopt you.

we arent moulded by ourselves but by the emotions, backgrounds, genes and situations around us.

also to mr bob shank. I posted it on both because i wanted two sided opinions...one from the depression side, for they would be perhaps be of more of a negative tone...and i just wanted to compare. plus i wasnt sure if i should've posted it in plain discussion for its not all really a sad topic...really.

Dude really good story man. i liked the part about the train. i think that like being a bully is like trying to look up, but your growing smaller every time you pants somebody or steal their lunch money. so its about looking down but just growing bigger, and that gets us nowhere, so we have to examine what the normal bully DNA.